148mph .... with pillion !

148mph .... with pillion !

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J B L

4,200 posts

216 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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148mph on a ZZR1400... Was he running on 2 cylinders?

The big girl.

CC07 PEU

2,299 posts

205 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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graphene said:
From the article: "weaving in and out of traffic". This should have said: using the lanes correctly whilst pressing-on.

The Police should have issued tickets to all those lane 2/3 hoggers and tailgaters. Then they should have thanked the motorcyclist for bringing it to their attention.
Lol. Exactly.

Vipers

32,897 posts

229 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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HertsBiker said:
. Speed isn't a killer, inattention and carelessness is.
Excessive speed on busy roads, and riding like a loon can be a contribution to it.




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DrDoofenshmirtz

15,246 posts

201 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Pothole said:
Why do Police spokespersons always say such stupid things about these incidents?

"After sentencing, Sgt Nick Edwards said the speeds Roberts was driving at were for "racetracks not public roads".
"The levels of harm to which Paul Roberts subjected himself, his pillion passenger, the public and my officer are just beyond comprehension," he said."

erm...
I really don't know why they have to go all Daily Mail...it just makes them look daft.
He was speeding at up to 120mph. Fair play...fine him and dish out the points, but spare us this pathetic nonsense.

iambeowulf

712 posts

173 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Whilst out shopping with the girlfriend she stopped at a shop window to have a look at yet another dress. I just kept waking.
When she caught up with me she said she had to run to catch me up. Why did I go off when she clearly said don't run off.

I was just walking.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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iambeowulf said:
Whilst out shopping with the girlfriend she stopped at a shop window to have a look at yet another dress. I just kept waking.
When she caught up with me she said she had to run to catch me up. Why did I go off when she clearly said don't run off.

I was just walking.
What speeds did she accuse you of having reached?

Vipers

32,897 posts

229 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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anonymous said:
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Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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anonymous said:
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What about "The levels of harm to which Paul Roberts subjected himself, his pillion passenger, the public and my officer "?

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Pothole said:
What about "The levels of harm to which Paul Roberts subjected himself, his pillion passenger, the public and my officer "?
I think that's an interesting point.

As much as it's fun to vilify the police, the officer has to perform speeds in excess just to do his duties, he can't just give up and let the law breaking continue, so it could be argued it's the biker's fault he had to go that fast.




Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Prof Prolapse said:
Pothole said:
What about "The levels of harm to which Paul Roberts subjected himself, his pillion passenger, the public and my officer "?
I think that's an interesting point.

As much as it's fun to vilify the police, the officer has to perform speeds in excess just to do his duties, he can't just give up and let the law breaking continue, so it could be argued it's the biker's fault he had to go that fast.
The point is nobody was subjected to any actual harm. POTENTIAL harm, perhaps and that is what should have been said.

I reckon that if one is going to pontificate and patronise in that special Plod style, one should make sure one gets one's bloody English correct. Otherwise one is in danger of losing any credibility one might have thought one had. (although the fact that I've had to explain it probably renders my point moot.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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I think proper vocab would be something along the lines as he subjected the public to an increased risk. Which is sufficiently true to be meaningless.

That said he's a copper, as you say most (but not all) love the opportunity to condescend. A sound bite gives him the opportunity to talk down to thousands of people at once, how could he possibly resist the urge to say something ill thought out?



Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Right I've now watched the video....


..And I agree with whoever posted that all the morons who can't drive on the left should have been charged while the bike was using the road correctly. TBH it doesn't look far off a normal commute to me, it was hardly dangerous.

vonhosen

40,243 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Hooli said:
Right I've now watched the video....


..And I agree with whoever posted that all the morons who can't drive on the left should have been charged while the bike was using the road correctly. TBH it doesn't look far off a normal commute to me, it was hardly dangerous.
What it ultimately comes down to is which opinion is of consequence to the rider (or indeed any of us), yours or the courts?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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vonhosen said:
Hooli said:
Right I've now watched the video....


..And I agree with whoever posted that all the morons who can't drive on the left should have been charged while the bike was using the road correctly. TBH it doesn't look far off a normal commute to me, it was hardly dangerous.
What it ultimately comes down to is which opinion is of consequence to the rider (or indeed any of us), yours or the courts?
Had the rider been doing 60mph and come of his bike, it's not like he would have fallen into a soft, downy cushion is it just because he was below the arbitrary speed limit? Fall off a bike on a motorway and you are in a whole world of trouble whether you are doing 40 or 120.

vonhosen

40,243 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Willy Nilly said:
vonhosen said:
Hooli said:
Right I've now watched the video....


..And I agree with whoever posted that all the morons who can't drive on the left should have been charged while the bike was using the road correctly. TBH it doesn't look far off a normal commute to me, it was hardly dangerous.
What it ultimately comes down to is which opinion is of consequence to the rider (or indeed any of us), yours or the courts?
Had the rider been doing 60mph and come of his bike, it's not like he would have fallen into a soft, downy cushion is it just because he was below the arbitrary speed limit? Fall off a bike on a motorway and you are in a whole world of trouble whether you are doing 40 or 120.
That has little to do with whether your riding itself is judged as dangerous in law though.

Nords

1,031 posts

232 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Shouldn't the pillion end up in court for aiding and abetting this henious crime?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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vonhosen said:
Willy Nilly said:
vonhosen said:
Hooli said:
Right I've now watched the video....


..And I agree with whoever posted that all the morons who can't drive on the left should have been charged while the bike was using the road correctly. TBH it doesn't look far off a normal commute to me, it was hardly dangerous.
What it ultimately comes down to is which opinion is of consequence to the rider (or indeed any of us), yours or the courts?
Had the rider been doing 60mph and come of his bike, it's not like he would have fallen into a soft, downy cushion is it just because he was below the arbitrary speed limit? Fall off a bike on a motorway and you are in a whole world of trouble whether you are doing 40 or 120.
That has little to do with whether your riding itself is judged as dangerous in law though.
What has that got to do with the price of fish? If the law is there to protect me from myself, what does it say about falling off my bike at below the speed limit during rush hour? I'm still dead if I fall off and hit the central reservation, get run over by a car or go under an artic no matter how slow or fast I'm riding.

Maybe the law should ban bikes altogether, it certainly should ban smoking, drinking to excess, being fat and not taking enough exercise. Chainsaws should be banned, working on construction sites should be banned, working on farms should be banned. We should all just live in a big soft house so we can't damage ourselves, listening to nice, soothing music, so it keeps are blood pressure low lest we have a heart attack.

The guy was going a bit quick, the police have miss lead the public by implying the 148 the police rider was doing was the speed the pursued rider was doing, then telling the public how dangerous it was when precisely no people/ animals or illegal immigrants were hurt during the pursuit. It's all bks.

Vipers

32,897 posts

229 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Here we go, get the handbags out.............

A bit quick. FFS.




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bass gt3

10,205 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Vipers said:
A bit quick. FFS.

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In truth it's a fair question.

How fast was the rider going? We know the Police hit 148 in the process of catching him, but at no point has anyone stated his speed.
To play Devils Advocate, he could of been doing 80 but the headline is the speed the copper hit.
So how fast was he going?

Vipers

32,897 posts

229 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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bass gt3 said:
Vipers said:
A bit quick. FFS.

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In truth it's a fair question.

How fast was the rider going? We know the Police hit 148 in the process of catching him, but at no point has anyone stated his speed.

To play Devils Advocate, he could of been doing 80 but the headline is the speed the copper hit.
So how fast was he going?
Watch the video again, at one time pacing him at 127, not 80.

Doesn't the police vid work out the actual speed taking into account the speed of the chase vehicle?




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