Why aren't luggage racks a standard option on sportsbikes?

Why aren't luggage racks a standard option on sportsbikes?

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Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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On the Kreigas there was a large velcro strap that went under the pillion seat, but I also used bungees around the whole tail to hold it more securely. I put down a decent sized sheet of the anti-slip mesh to cover the pillion seat and the tail bodywork, to prevent the bungees marking the paint (you can get a big roll of it in pound shops, or in Tesco's budget pound section).

With the 30L roll bag I just use bungees.

What I have learnt is that luggage straps (i.e. the nylon webbing with the buckle on the end) don't seem to be very useful on bikes, no matter how tight I did them up they seem to shift around and work loose. Never had a bungee fail or work loose.

Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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I've gone for a Kriega R30 rucksack and a US10 tailpack on my F4 for my euro trip next week. I've not used the rucksack yet but the tailpack is a nice thing and straps very quickly and solidly to the bike.

Mine actually has nylon straps which are attached to the subframe - I leave them attached and hidden under the pillion seat When I want to use the tailpack I just pop the seat and pull the loops out. The the tailpack attaches to these loops with natty alloy hooks. I think a US20 would be OK, even on my tiny back seat.





Edited by Dog Star on Tuesday 21st April 09:56

Speed addicted

5,576 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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For attaching bags to the bike I use Rokstraps http://www.rokstraps.com/ they're a mix of nylon webbing strap with a bungee bit so they don't loosen off. They have loop ends so don't have the bungee eye removal problem too.

Kreiga gear is very good, I used a US 20 when I used to pack light!

I've used the Ventura system on previous bikes (VFR1200 has panniers) and it's very good, we tested it up to 150mph on the autobahn with no issues.
The main benefit of the ventura packs is the speed that you can get them on and off the bike. It's almost as fast to secure as a top box and about as stable at speed.


Edited by Speed addicted on Tuesday 21st April 11:16

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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podman said:
Deranged Granny said:
podman said:
What capacity is that topbox, Podman? Can it hold a helmet? I'm planning on doing a looong tour this summer and wondering what size topbox to take.

This has been a very useful thread!
It will take a lid, light jacket and gloves or enough gear for a 10 day trip(for me anuway..).

on Saturday I managed to get a duvet , valence, pillowcases, fitted sheet and even a small-ish pillow in it! Rock and roll biking weekend that I had...

Its a Givi 32L box I think, you can get larger ones but i wouldnt go too mad, mine cost me £20 SH from eBay, used racks also come up on ebay quite often.

Have to say its so useful the rack is a permanent fixture now and the box is always to hand.
Keep an eye on the catch that locks the box to the top plate. They fracture the tip off eventually & then your box randomly falls off. Hence mine is now bolted to the rack.

gwm

2,390 posts

145 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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julian64 said:
where do those come from and can I fit them on my S1000R?
We talked about them earlier in the thread (or maybe another thread...), basically not available in the UK but you can order them in Europe.

I found them at the links below but haven't tried either.

http://www.nc700shop.com/en/hand-guards-muffs/279-...

http://www.tecnoglobe.be/en/heated-equipments/1010...


vonhosen

40,246 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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anonymous said:
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Only used their gloves personally & they are excellent.

Speed addicted

5,576 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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anonymous said:
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I have Held leathers and gloves, can't fault them really. They feel high quality and have some nice features.

scunnylad

1,726 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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I tend to end up knocking something up,often copying Renntec mounting points etc
Made this for my Fireblade




Just made this for my HP2 for an upcoming euro trip


Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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scunnylad said:
I tend to end up knocking something up,often copying Renntec mounting points etc
Made this for my Fireblade




Just made this for my HP2 for an upcoming euro trip

Professional looking stuff.

boyse7en

6,738 posts

166 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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anonymous said:
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I've got a Held textile Jacket. Goretex one.

Had it about 4 years. Only problem I've had was a wrist zip broke (fixed under warranty).
Is very good and waterproof. Removable liner.
Only downside was that I picked a pale grey/black design, which looked great, but 30,000 miles of road grime means that it always looks dirty, even when just washed. Next jacket will be all black. Dull but more practical.

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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scunnylad said:
I tend to end up knocking something up,often copying Renntec mounting points etc
Made this for my Fireblade




Just made this for my HP2 for an upcoming euro trip

Good work there - I wish I had fabrication skills!

Chipchap

2,590 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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scunnylad said:
I tend to end up knocking something up,often copying Renntec mounting points etc
Made this for my Fireblade




Just made this for my HP2 for an upcoming euro trip

That looks great on the HP2. As a fat knacker I was probably overloading the CF subframe on my own without adding luggage so I just did day trips on mine.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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scunnylad said:
I tend to end up knocking something up,often copying Renntec mounting points etc
Made this for my Fireblade

Much better design than the Renntec rack; the 'hoop' is perfect to stop stuff sliding around but doesn't remove a load of useful space on the rack itself.

What did you use for bending the tubing? I started making a rack for my Tornado using 15mm steel tube and a fairly heavy duty pipe bending tool, which gave useable but not pretty results. Gave up and used my Fireblade for the trip in the end for various reasons, but wouldn't mind finishing it.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Thursday 23 April 22:09

scunnylad

1,726 posts

170 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Mr2Mike said:
scunnylad said:
I tend to end up knocking something up,often copying Renntec mounting points etc
Made this for my Fireblade

Much better design than the Renntec rack; the 'hoop' is perfect to stop stuff sliding around but doesn't remove a load of useful space on the rack itself.

What did you use for bending the tubing? I started making a rack for my Tornado using 15mm steel tube and a fairly heavy duty pipe bending tool, which gave useable but not pretty results. Gave up and used my Fireblade for the trip in the end for various reasons, but wouldn't mind finishing it.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Thursday 23 April 22:09
I just "hot" bent the tubing,an old fashioned method of bending pipe but you can get
decent results if you take your time,tho results do differ depending on wall thickness
of the pipe

Esceptico

Original Poster:

7,523 posts

110 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Had a local bike shop come up with this solution for the soft box on my S 1000 R. Yes it is not going to stop a proper thief but should prevent opportunist thief from just unclicking the bag from the bike or unzipping the lid! I tend to only park the bike on a busy street with constant stream of pedestrians so hoping this will work (only leaving my lid and gloves in it).