Can someone explain this new(?) riding technique?

[sradmarty]

Been noticing the moto 2 boys taking their outside foot off the foot peg in a turn, anyone explain why?

My understanding was that you weighted the outside peg to help generate grip, inside peg to generate wheel spin.

Is it so they can hang off further? Also noticed a couple of supersport guys doing it as well this year.

Just heard Neil Hodgson mention on free practice coverage that Randy Mamola was doing it years ago but not why he was doing it.

[Biker's Nemesis]

I was doing it nearly 30 years ago on track before the Moto GP boys started doing.

I only did it because I thought I wasn't going to stop though

[sradmarty]

I just want to add it onto my list of things to do when I'm wobbling round in the slow group this year.

So far got the doctors dangle, getting my elbow down, takin my outside foot off the peg and talking about saving it on my knee Colin Edwards style when I get back to the pits!

[LoonR1]

Biker's Nemesis said:

I was doing it nearly 30 years ago on track before the Moto GP boys started doing.

I only did it because I thought I wasn't going to stop though

I don't think he means the dangling leg, he means the outer foot leaves the rearsets when cranked over. There's a guy did it all last year in the Triumph Triple Challenge and he's doing it this year in SS600. It looks like he's lowsided at every corner.

[sradmarty]

LoonR1 said:

Biker's Nemesis said:

I was doing it nearly 30 years ago on track before the Moto GP boys started doing.

I only did it because I thought I wasn't going to stop though

I don't think he means the dangling leg, he means the outer foot leaves the rearsets when cranked over. There's a guy did it all last year in the Triumph Triple Challenge and he's doing it this year in SS600. It looks like he's lowsided at every corner.

Spot on. Just realised BN misunderstood me.

That's exactly what it looked like first time I seen it, I thought they were lowsiding off and saved it.

[Biker's Nemesis]

Bah, I never look that closely at racing.

[Biker's Nemesis]

I think I know what the OP means now....

[Biker's Nemesis]

[mckeann]

Leg-end

[LoonR1]

Biker's Nemesis said:

You'd be amazed how close that is to what they do. The guy seems to put his heel on the outside peg then pivot his foot so it's at 90 degrees to the bike.

Very weird to watch. I watched a round last year with Cunny and he though the lad was falling off at every corner too.

[s3fella]

Isn't it just short arses hanging off the bike more?

[LoonR1]

s3fella said:

Isn't it just short arses hanging off the bike more?

I doubt that there is anybody smaller riding shorter than Pedrosa or some of the other MotoGP midgets and none of them see the need to do it.

[Biker's Nemesis]

LoonR1 said:

I doubt that there is anybody smaller riding shorter than Pedrosa or some of the other MotoGP midgets and none of them see the need to do it.

I am sure Mamola used to do that in the 1980's.

[poo at Paul's]

LoonR1 said:

s3fella said:

Isn't it just short arses hanging off the bike more?

I doubt that there is anybody smaller riding shorter than Pedrosa or some of the other MotoGP midgets and none of them see the need to do it.

No, but if you can hang off that little bit more, you can have the bike stood up more for the same speed and rate of turn?

I presume unless the rider is arsing about, the act of taking the foot off the outside peg does mean the rider is hanging off more than if his foot was on it, and hence he can lean the bike a little less?

[scunnylad]

Biker's Nemesis said:

I am sure Mamola used to do that in the 1980's.

I remember him doing that,he did it regularly on the Honda triples,then the Yamaha and latterly
on the Cagiva,tho iirc he spent most of his time on the cagiva showboating,which was always entertaining

[998420]

scunnylad said:

I remember him doing that,he did it regularly on the Honda triples,then the Yamaha and latterly
on the Cagiva,tho iirc he spent most of his time on the cagiva showboating,which was always entertaining

I remember him complaining that the Cagiva 500 Carbon frame was too stiff, and a generation raised on the wobbly @rubber chassis of H2s and Z1s laughing at him.

Re the footage weighting, guess it is a CofGravity thing, I always put a good part of my weight and steering inputs through that peg and feel happy that way.

[SAS Tom]

How do you put a steering input through the peg? It isnt connected to the bars.

[LoonR1]

998420 said:

I remember him complaining that the Cagiva 500 Carbon frame was too stiff, and a generation raised on the wobbly @rubber chassis of H2s and Z1s laughing at him.

Re the footage weighting, guess it is a CofGravity thing, I always put a good part of my weight and steering inputs through that peg and feel happy that way.

Really? You must be some racer and have a few championships under your belt to be bothering doing that.

[Tim85]

There's a lad in bsb superstock 600 or maybe supersport, last year he was on a gold triumph if I remember rightly. He used to do it quite extremely and Whitham always used to comment on how dangerous it looked/he thought it was. Maybe he was just ahead of the game. I did just see one of the Ducati riders doing it but not sure if it was on purpose.

[curlie467]

I'm just happy to get round a lap without binning it let alone varying the weight through each peg for better control!