Family and BF all don't want me to go biking..
Discussion
moanthebairns said:
CarlizzleFoSho said:
moanthebairns said:
Is kart racing motorsport.
It's a bit like picking up an action film and finding it's got Steven seagal in it.
It's technically probably is but it's just feels wrong saying it's the same thing as die hard
You clearly have never watched or experienced a professional kart race, it's the grassroots of motorsport. You can't progress in it unless you have money.It's a bit like picking up an action film and finding it's got Steven seagal in it.
It's technically probably is but it's just feels wrong saying it's the same thing as die hard
Nice try at trolling though.
In my eyes it's the same thing
I'd hazard a guess I'd piss all over you on your trumpet in my old Gearbox Kart.
This is always a good video for a bit of eye opening -
https://youtu.be/nSDBjDZVfcU
OP, how long ago were you racing? I half recognise your profile pic.
k what anyone thinks about it. You need to think about number 1 sometimes.Similar story here, my whole family are against it. I gave up biking for 16 years like many peers I've spoken to, you give it up for others but it eats away at you, every summer you see the bikes out and just want to get back on one, for you its slightly different as it hasn't gotten totally under your skin yet but it will.
The thing is, you will always regret not doing it if you don't and I guess its natural that the more that people try to stop you doing something the more your freedom of spirit rebels against that. At the end of the day, it is your life, you're giving it plenty of thought, you are aware of the risks if you can trust your judgement make the call based on how you feel, forget everyone else, they may not like it but they will get used to it quickly and the furore will die down after the first few months anyway, if you don't come off that is.
Me, I did give it up, for many years, do I regret that, yes and no, I got back into it 3 years ago, however now it is with my wife's consent(ish), I could have put my foot down etc years ago, instead I got into stupidly powerful cars which were a good distraction, when kids came along I could no longer afford to carry on with that, so looked back to bikes and wore her down because it was important to me to have her approval and support even if it was with reluctance. We have two boys so I understand the concerns, she used to ride herself and also wants to get back into it but is quite conflicted herself having been through the coma thing with an ex many moons ago.
In some ways, I think I'm a safer biker now (more mature judgement) than I would have been back then and I'm more conscious of the risks and consequences (rather than throwing caution to the wind). Bikes are pretty safe on their own. If you're not commuting and its weekend riding only, generally there is less traffic just be careful of other motorists, don't put your life in their hands by taking chances, make sure you are in control and you don't put yourself in that situation.
There are two types of biker, those who have crashed and those who are going to crash. It's almost inevitable, there are so many hazards and riding is a rolling risk assessment but if you're going to take the risk, do it at a time and place where it is safe to do so. If there is other traffic about keep your wits about you and don't go too silly because you can't predict what they will do and indeed half of them are probably driving while reading text messages nowadays!!
Yes it is dangerous because you have very little protection which makes you vulnerable, there is a certain amount you can do to mitigate against the risks and bring the tolerability of risk to an acceptable level to you but the severity of risk remains high, all you can do is reduce the likelihood of that risk.
At the end of the day, something is going to get you and freak accidents and illnesses occur everyday. It's not the years in your life but the life in your years. You'll find your own balance. All non bikers will tell you that you're going to kill yourself blah bla bla, bikers will be a little more enlightened, we're aware of the risks and surely most ride accordingly. I just came off for the second time in my life the other day, leaving our industrial estate at about 20mph, accelerated and hit an oil patch which some car had trailed down the road which wasn't really visible as the whole road was slightly damp, it spat me off and fortunately I didn't hit anything hard. It wasn't me riding like an idiot and its not a freak occurence either as spilt diesel, potholes etc are pretty commonplace, just one of those things. It's one I look back on and there isn't a lot really I could have done differently so I can't blame my riding for it really. I could have been going a bit slower I guess. The point is don't go into it expecting you'll luck your way through, some haven't been so lucky. As sobering a subject as it is, it doesn't do any harm to keep it close to mind, just not close enough that it dominates your thoughts and you stop concentrating on enjoying and feeling the ride.
Good luck with it, the fact we're all on this forum tells you that we've probably all been through this process and found our balance and what we're comfortable with. Welcome to the forum, I was lurking on here for a couple of years before I took the plunge to get back into it.
Ironically, I got hit (on the -crash- helmet) by a golf ball riding past a Golf course once back in '92 lol!! Had my visor up, that could have been interesting if it had got me in the eye!!
Regards
Nito
The thing is, you will always regret not doing it if you don't and I guess its natural that the more that people try to stop you doing something the more your freedom of spirit rebels against that. At the end of the day, it is your life, you're giving it plenty of thought, you are aware of the risks if you can trust your judgement make the call based on how you feel, forget everyone else, they may not like it but they will get used to it quickly and the furore will die down after the first few months anyway, if you don't come off that is.
Me, I did give it up, for many years, do I regret that, yes and no, I got back into it 3 years ago, however now it is with my wife's consent(ish), I could have put my foot down etc years ago, instead I got into stupidly powerful cars which were a good distraction, when kids came along I could no longer afford to carry on with that, so looked back to bikes and wore her down because it was important to me to have her approval and support even if it was with reluctance. We have two boys so I understand the concerns, she used to ride herself and also wants to get back into it but is quite conflicted herself having been through the coma thing with an ex many moons ago.
In some ways, I think I'm a safer biker now (more mature judgement) than I would have been back then and I'm more conscious of the risks and consequences (rather than throwing caution to the wind). Bikes are pretty safe on their own. If you're not commuting and its weekend riding only, generally there is less traffic just be careful of other motorists, don't put your life in their hands by taking chances, make sure you are in control and you don't put yourself in that situation.
There are two types of biker, those who have crashed and those who are going to crash. It's almost inevitable, there are so many hazards and riding is a rolling risk assessment but if you're going to take the risk, do it at a time and place where it is safe to do so. If there is other traffic about keep your wits about you and don't go too silly because you can't predict what they will do and indeed half of them are probably driving while reading text messages nowadays!!
Yes it is dangerous because you have very little protection which makes you vulnerable, there is a certain amount you can do to mitigate against the risks and bring the tolerability of risk to an acceptable level to you but the severity of risk remains high, all you can do is reduce the likelihood of that risk.
At the end of the day, something is going to get you and freak accidents and illnesses occur everyday. It's not the years in your life but the life in your years. You'll find your own balance. All non bikers will tell you that you're going to kill yourself blah bla bla, bikers will be a little more enlightened, we're aware of the risks and surely most ride accordingly. I just came off for the second time in my life the other day, leaving our industrial estate at about 20mph, accelerated and hit an oil patch which some car had trailed down the road which wasn't really visible as the whole road was slightly damp, it spat me off and fortunately I didn't hit anything hard. It wasn't me riding like an idiot and its not a freak occurence either as spilt diesel, potholes etc are pretty commonplace, just one of those things. It's one I look back on and there isn't a lot really I could have done differently so I can't blame my riding for it really. I could have been going a bit slower I guess. The point is don't go into it expecting you'll luck your way through, some haven't been so lucky. As sobering a subject as it is, it doesn't do any harm to keep it close to mind, just not close enough that it dominates your thoughts and you stop concentrating on enjoying and feeling the ride.
Good luck with it, the fact we're all on this forum tells you that we've probably all been through this process and found our balance and what we're comfortable with. Welcome to the forum, I was lurking on here for a couple of years before I took the plunge to get back into it.
Ironically, I got hit (on the -crash- helmet) by a golf ball riding past a Golf course once back in '92 lol!! Had my visor up, that could have been interesting if it had got me in the eye!!
Regards
Nito
Edited by NITO on Sunday 19th April 08:46
Don't worry about some of the responses on here, keep reminding yourself this is a banter forum so most abuse is tongue in cheek.
My parent's were dead against me riding due to things that happened to them years before I was born and so I didn't pass my test until I was 30. My wife was supportive and enjoyed going on the back before we had a child 18 months ago. The bit that calmed my parents down was when I showed them how serious I was taking safety, the leathers, helmet and armour etc.
Maybe take him to a clothing shop to browse some gear to show him how serious you are taking safety to mitigate your risks.
Above all, at least do the the tests and get your licence as the choice is yours at any point in the future then, you don't have to buy a bike the day you pass your test.
My parent's were dead against me riding due to things that happened to them years before I was born and so I didn't pass my test until I was 30. My wife was supportive and enjoyed going on the back before we had a child 18 months ago. The bit that calmed my parents down was when I showed them how serious I was taking safety, the leathers, helmet and armour etc.
Maybe take him to a clothing shop to browse some gear to show him how serious you are taking safety to mitigate your risks.
Above all, at least do the the tests and get your licence as the choice is yours at any point in the future then, you don't have to buy a bike the day you pass your test.
Yazza54 said:
moanthebairns said:
CarlizzleFoSho said:
moanthebairns said:
Is kart racing motorsport.
It's a bit like picking up an action film and finding it's got Steven seagal in it.
It's technically probably is but it's just feels wrong saying it's the same thing as die hard
You clearly have never watched or experienced a professional kart race, it's the grassroots of motorsport. You can't progress in it unless you have money.It's a bit like picking up an action film and finding it's got Steven seagal in it.
It's technically probably is but it's just feels wrong saying it's the same thing as die hard
Nice try at trolling though.
In my eyes it's the same thing
I'd hazard a guess I'd piss all over you on your trumpet in my old Gearbox Kart.
This is always a good video for a bit of eye opening -
https://youtu.be/nSDBjDZVfcU
OP, how long ago were you racing? I half recognise your profile pic.
^^
Good point and on that, don't buy your gear over the internet. Particularly the crash helmet, I shortlisted all the ones I like then went to a shop to try and ended up with something totally different as none of the original ones fitted properly, fit is more important than the actual lid in many ways and different brands fit differently. Whereabouts are you based? I went to Helmet City in Tatsfield just off m25, excellent selection and range there to try everything on, or the bike shows are good for that too. Don't skimp on safety gear, every little helps, my jacket has back protector, jeans and leathers both have knee pads etc and sturdy biker footwear is a must as I was gratefuly for when the gearlever tried to stab me through the foot!!
Enjoy!
Good point and on that, don't buy your gear over the internet. Particularly the crash helmet, I shortlisted all the ones I like then went to a shop to try and ended up with something totally different as none of the original ones fitted properly, fit is more important than the actual lid in many ways and different brands fit differently. Whereabouts are you based? I went to Helmet City in Tatsfield just off m25, excellent selection and range there to try everything on, or the bike shows are good for that too. Don't skimp on safety gear, every little helps, my jacket has back protector, jeans and leathers both have knee pads etc and sturdy biker footwear is a must as I was gratefuly for when the gearlever tried to stab me through the foot!!
Enjoy!
Cheers Nito for your in depth reply! I definitely did this for moral support and it just helps me when I understand what everyone else has had to go through too.
I definitely plan on saving up for the best protection I can get, and doing advanced training when I can. Haowever I'm obviously aware this can't mitigate all risk.
I know the bf was dreading this day as he knew it'd always come. I thought to myself earlier, if I was single I wouldn't even be having this dilemma I'd just do it!
Weirdly he thinks I'd be safer on a scooter?! I don't buy that, I plan on getting a cruiser as that's exactly what I want to do on it, cruise with my cousin who goes out on them all the time.
I definitely plan on saving up for the best protection I can get, and doing advanced training when I can. Haowever I'm obviously aware this can't mitigate all risk.
I know the bf was dreading this day as he knew it'd always come. I thought to myself earlier, if I was single I wouldn't even be having this dilemma I'd just do it!
Weirdly he thinks I'd be safer on a scooter?! I don't buy that, I plan on getting a cruiser as that's exactly what I want to do on it, cruise with my cousin who goes out on them all the time.
CarlizzleFoSho said:
Cheers Nito for your in depth reply! I definitely did this for moral support and it just helps me when I understand what everyone else has had to go through too.
I definitely plan on saving up for the best protection I can get, and doing advanced training when I can. Haowever I'm obviously aware this can't mitigate all risk.
I know the bf was dreading this day as he knew it'd always come. I thought to myself earlier, if I was single I wouldn't even be having this dilemma I'd just do it!
Weirdly he thinks I'd be safer on a scooter?! I don't buy that, I plan on getting a cruiser as that's exactly what I want to do on it, cruise with my cousin who goes out on them all the time.
Cruiser. That's it I'm out. I definitely plan on saving up for the best protection I can get, and doing advanced training when I can. Haowever I'm obviously aware this can't mitigate all risk.
I know the bf was dreading this day as he knew it'd always come. I thought to myself earlier, if I was single I wouldn't even be having this dilemma I'd just do it!
Weirdly he thinks I'd be safer on a scooter?! I don't buy that, I plan on getting a cruiser as that's exactly what I want to do on it, cruise with my cousin who goes out on them all the time.
moanthebairns said:
Was it not on a par with yours
I was up till four thinkingh of that
Wood you not agree it was ok
She is a birdie so that's why I explained it
Aaargh! I should be diving, albeit in a flooded quarry nr Peterborough, or if not that fixing one of my bikes, but no, I'm sat here reading your bloody jokes.I was up till four thinkingh of that
Wood you not agree it was ok
She is a birdie so that's why I explained it
Tribal Chestnut said:
moanthebairns said:
Was it not on a par with yours
I was up till four thinkingh of that
Wood you not agree it was ok
She is a birdie so that's why I explained it
Aaargh! I should be diving, albeit in a flooded quarry nr Peterborough, or if not that fixing one of my bikes, but no, I'm sat here reading your bloody jokes.I was up till four thinkingh of that
Wood you not agree it was ok
She is a birdie so that's why I explained it
A bit from the other side, my kids both wanted bikes, my son especially, I was dead set against it and refused to help, apart from safety gear. We spent quite a while arguing that he couldn't have one, but he saved his own money and purchased himself a YZF R125 last summer.
Now the thing was, I thought that looks fun, booked my own test within 4 weeks to the DAS! My first bike was a CBR600RR, which lasted me a few weeks before I accidentally purchased a Repsol Fireblade.
I am probably more into it than either of my kids now, after being such a hater, if your O/H has even a little petrol in his veins, I am sure he will follow!
Now the thing was, I thought that looks fun, booked my own test within 4 weeks to the DAS! My first bike was a CBR600RR, which lasted me a few weeks before I accidentally purchased a Repsol Fireblade.
I am probably more into it than either of my kids now, after being such a hater, if your O/H has even a little petrol in his veins, I am sure he will follow!
It's very easy for people to be anti biking. Sure there are people who have gotten hurt over the
years but as humans all of us crave some form of excitement and when one form is removed because
it is banned or made near impossible then naturally we still crave that excitement and look to
something else to fill the void.
Biking is great fun.
Do it well and there will not be any issues and you will get a lot out of it.
I've got a nice bike (well one than one actually) but due to family commitments I don't get out
on it as much as I would like but its available when I really feel the need.
Good luck in your decision.
years but as humans all of us crave some form of excitement and when one form is removed because
it is banned or made near impossible then naturally we still crave that excitement and look to
something else to fill the void.
Biking is great fun.
Do it well and there will not be any issues and you will get a lot out of it.
I've got a nice bike (well one than one actually) but due to family commitments I don't get out
on it as much as I would like but its available when I really feel the need.
Good luck in your decision.
NITO said:
Ironically, I got hit (on the -crash- helmet) by a golf ball riding past a Golf course once back in '92 lol!! Had my visor up, that could have been interesting if it had got me in the eye!!
Regards
Nito
http://golf.heraldtribune.com/2010/11/29/death-by-golf-ball-not-all-that-uncommon/Regards
Nito
Edited by NITO on Sunday 19th April 08:46
A bit from the other side, my kids both wanted bikes, my son especially, I was dead set against it and refused to help, apart from safety gear. We spent quite a while arguing that he couldn't have one, but he saved his own money and purchased himself a YZF R125 last summer.
Now the thing was, I thought that looks fun, booked my own test within 4 weeks to the DAS! My first bike was a CBR600RR, which lasted me a few weeks before I accidentally purchased a Repsol Fireblade.
I am probably more into it than either of my kids now, after being such a hater, if your O/H has even a little petrol in his veins, I am sure he will follow!
Now the thing was, I thought that looks fun, booked my own test within 4 weeks to the DAS! My first bike was a CBR600RR, which lasted me a few weeks before I accidentally purchased a Repsol Fireblade.
I am probably more into it than either of my kids now, after being such a hater, if your O/H has even a little petrol in his veins, I am sure he will follow!
In short, Life is too short.
Long, my mum was against me having a bike. I just kept telling her I was goinf to get one up until the point I got one and through that time she began to accept it. Still doesn't like it and worries but she see's how happy it makes me.
My most recent ex hated bikes and so did her family after her uncle was killed on one.
From day 1 I told her bikes were the most important thing to me and she understood.. i think.
I expect with the mileage I do at some point I'll have a crash/accident on the roadz but I just hope it won't hurt too much.
If you can't accept that don't do it but really from the sounds of your mileage the risk will be reduced.
Probably no less dangerous than karting I expect.
If your boyf wanted to start a new hobby you didn't agree with but it made him happy would you stop him?
Just get it done!
Long, my mum was against me having a bike. I just kept telling her I was goinf to get one up until the point I got one and through that time she began to accept it. Still doesn't like it and worries but she see's how happy it makes me.
My most recent ex hated bikes and so did her family after her uncle was killed on one.
From day 1 I told her bikes were the most important thing to me and she understood.. i think.
I expect with the mileage I do at some point I'll have a crash/accident on the roadz but I just hope it won't hurt too much.
If you can't accept that don't do it but really from the sounds of your mileage the risk will be reduced.
Probably no less dangerous than karting I expect.
If your boyf wanted to start a new hobby you didn't agree with but it made him happy would you stop him?
Just get it done!
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