Riding Position

[Mr OCD]

bass gt3 said:

For me the Blades foot pegs feel far to forward. Set of new rearsets sorted mine out but I rode a mates standard Blade recently and it felt as strange as fook
But I hear you're a big lad John, oooohh errr

That's why I've got LighTech rear sets waiting to go on mine ... the stompgrips just stop me taking the paint off the tank and provide grip under braking...

[sc0tt]

Biker's Nemesis said:

It doesn't help that I am too heavy and also have the false leg and a hip screws together Scott

I can imagine this would also add to the issue.

Have you still got the r1?

[Mr OCD]

bass gt3 said:

Sorry mate, I mean the back of the bike, needing lifting up a smidge. If you're struggling to turn as the speed goes up I'd suspect the rake is too long, so either too low in the back or too high in the front.
As for the exhaust, that's why I went for the long Arata design...... No grounding issues

+1

Got to be a reason the bike doesn't turn as the chassis is one of the best out there!

Also how far do those rear sets put your feet back as IIRC you had Diamonds before and they go back further from experience... the blade pegs are way too far forward even for me and I'm only 5ft 11 unlike you giants.

If exhaust grounds out I might have to put the standard system back on for track days I assume? Don't fancy scraping a grands worth of carbon!!!

[Biker's Nemesis]

It won't turn because of me

If 15 stone and 6ft 4" of BN isn't in the right place. I am upsetting the handling due to me being in the wrong position

That's a good call on the rear sets

[Mr OCD]

Biker's Nemesis said:

It won't turn because of me

If 15 stone and 6ft 4" of BN isn't in the right place. I am upsetting the handling due to me being in the wrong position

That's a good call on the rear sets

Just looked at those GB Moto rearsets as I remember you mentioning them John... they do not have sufficient adjustment to give you the room you need mate. You've got barely 10mm-20mm of adjustment... and no reference point either from what the standard pegs are ...

I'd put the standard pegs on and measure reference point - I can do this for you if helps as I've got standard kit on mine at the moment.

I only mentioned it as I measured a reference point for the LighTech's last night and the furthest forward point is actually further forward than the standard rear sets! ... but they have much more adjustment so it's not a problem... furthest back is 35-40mm over standard.

I actually think those rear sets have made the problem worse.

[Biker's Nemesis]

That would be a great help Scott

Can you measure from the bottom of the foot peg (hook the tip on the end of the peg) to the seat

Then from the foot peg to the ends of the handlebars please

[Mr OCD]

Biker's Nemesis said:

That would be a great help Scott

Can you measure from the bottom of the foot peg (hook the tip on the end of the peg) to the seat

Then from the foot peg to the ends of the handlebars please

I can do that for you this evening when get home from work.

[Biker's Nemesis]

sc0tt said:

I can imagine this would also add to the issue.

Have you still got the r1?

Yes but it's retired now, only used on sunny Sundays

It's earned it's retirement

[theshrew]

bass gt3 said:

I really need for such aggressive tank grip materials.
Are you seriously not able to stabilise yourself on the bike?

No it's shocking. It's a good job I'm not a women I'm moving about that much I'm be squirting in my leathers every 2 min.

If I'm sitting on the bike i where I want I'm feeling pretty good and relaxed. I'm constantly having to fidget about to stay in that position. It's like I'm sitting on a vibrating plate and slowly bouncing towards the tank. If I hit a big bump in the road that's it I'm on the tank.

Putting the suspension back to std settings has helped a little but that needs sorting properly. Before I did that it was throwing me out of the seat over bigger bumps.

Just wondered if i could be doing something which is highlighting the issue.

[Hooli]

theshrew said:

bass gt3 said:

I really need for such aggressive tank grip materials.
Are you seriously not able to stabilise yourself on the bike?

No it's shocking. It's a good job I'm not a women I'm moving about that much I'm be squirting in my leathers every 2 min.

If I'm sitting on the bike i where I want I'm feeling pretty good and relaxed. I'm constantly having to fidget about to stay in that position. It's like I'm sitting on a vibrating plate and slowly bouncing towards the tank. If I hit a big bump in the road that's it I'm on the tank.

Putting the suspension back to std settings has helped a little but that needs sorting properly. Before I did that it was throwing me out of the seat over bigger bumps.

Just wondered if i could be doing something which is highlighting the issue.

If you bounce on the bike do both ends move up & down together? Just wondering if it's bouncing you forwards because the rear raises faster than the front over a series of bumps.

[sc0tt]

Biker's Nemesis said:

Yes but it's retired now, only used on sunny Sundays

It's earned it's retirement

Fair enough. Not tempted to shift on the blade and get another?

[bass gt3]

theshrew said:

bass gt3 said:

I really need for such aggressive tank grip materials.
Are you seriously not able to stabilise yourself on the bike?

No it's shocking. It's a good job I'm not a women I'm moving about that much I'm be squirting in my leathers every 2 min.

If I'm sitting on the bike i where I want I'm feeling pretty good and relaxed. I'm constantly having to fidget about to stay in that position. It's like I'm sitting on a vibrating plate and slowly bouncing towards the tank. If I hit a big bump in the road that's it I'm on the tank.

Putting the suspension back to std settings has helped a little but that needs sorting properly. Before I did that it was throwing me out of the seat over bigger bumps.

Just wondered if i could be doing something which is highlighting the issue.

Ok, so two possibilities here....

1. The rear suspension is overly harsh and is kicking you out of the seat.
2. You're not stabilising yourself on the bike with your feet, legs, knees and core abdominal muscles.

However, even if 1 is true, 2 is defiantly true as you'll always have bumps and such.
It might be that you're sitting on your arse too much, silly as it sounds. If your legs and core are offering no support/bracing, then you'll become a static lump of meat that gets thrown about as the rear hits bumps. Maybe a crusier is more your thing....

[theshrew]

bass gt3 said:

Ok, so two possibilities here....

1. The rear suspension is overly harsh and is kicking you out of the seat.
2. You're not stabilising yourself on the bike with your feet, legs, knees and core abdominal muscles.

However, even if 1 is true, 2 is defiantly true as you'll always have bumps and such.
It might be that you're sitting on your arse too much, silly as it sounds. If your legs and core are offering no support/bracing, then you'll become a static lump of meat that gets thrown about as the rear hits bumps. Maybe a crusier is more your thing....

I'm squeezing the tank under braking but not while just going along. However the leg thing is a good call, I just sit on it well certainly don't consciously put any weight on the pegs unless I can see there is a ball slapper of a bump in the road

So how and when should I be doing this ?

[Mr OCD]

Biker's Nemesis said:

That would be a great help Scott

Can you measure from the bottom of the foot peg (hook the tip on the end of the peg) to the seat

Then from the foot peg to the ends of the handlebars please

Peg to base of seat - 410mm, peg to bar end screw (centre) - 720mm... Tape measure hooked under peg edge.

[Biker's Nemesis]

Mr OCD said:

Peg to base of seat - 410mm, peg to bar end screw (centre) - 720mm... Tape measure hooked under peg edge.

Thanks for that Scott.

[jimbobsimmonds]

Hi all. Bit of a tangent but not worth starting a new thread so jumping on the back of this one (shamelessly )

I have just bought my first big bike (Honda CB500) and with my waterproof trousers on I find it bloody slipper. I'm smashing my wee ones under breaking and then sliding backwards under acceleration. It just makes life a bit uncomfortable and I'm finding myself gripping the bars a bit too much because of it.

I'm thinking some tank rubbers will help. But ideally I would like a "grippy" seat cover if possible if anybody has any recommendations?

The trousers FWIW are Buffalo textile ones bought for enduro biking. So they are lovely and weatherproof and have lots of build in protection (which is nice ). It's theyr'e just a slippy as a slippy greased up ice cube can be.

[jimbobsimmonds]

Shameless bump

[Jazoli]

jimbobsimmonds said:

Shameless bump

Try a triboseat cover, that'll stop you moving around, I used one to stop the missus sliding off the back, or a roll of anti slip mat from poundland will do the same job.

[Fitz666]

Would this help?

http://cycle-ergo.com/

[Vin]

if you are bouncing out of the seat it sounds as though you might be too light? The suspension should be soaking up the bumps. There are grips for the seats and tanks. Also down to stance. I think if you can sit so that you are gripping the tank or bike. That you sit holding your chest out, as in a good chair that puts you in a s shape. Your stomach should be holding you. So that your hands are lightly on the bars. I have used these ways on my Ducati 916 which as you can imagine is not a touring position. I have never had a problem on the journey to work or driving to Italy touring.

I hope you find some tips to use on your bike that helps.

Vince