Rossi - hero or villain in last race

Rossi - hero or villain in last race

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Kawasicki

13,082 posts

235 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Friggin hell...just watched it on youtube. Rossi is a legend. Isn't he meant to be old and slow, past it, etc?

rev-erend

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21,413 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Was a fantastic race, all those that said Rossi was finished without Burgess must be eating their words but I sure am glad he is back.

MM is also a fantastic racer and may be he will be more cautious with Rossi.

Massively looking forward to the next race

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Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

222 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Pothole said:
I'm biased cos I've never liked him. He knew exactly where Marques was and what was most likely to happen if he took the line he 'needed' to. He is too prepared to risk other riders' lives, imho. Cracking race, though. Shame the directors chose to show Marques' tantrum instead of Cal taking 3rd!
Complete bks. When MM drew alongside VR, VR was still leaning to the right. Whether he was completing his corner exit or moving across to take the next corner entry is irrelevant. Whilst he is leaning right (and it cant be instantly picked up at that speed) the bike will continue to go right until he rolls upright or over to the left. And he had committed to that before MM got there. MM effectively put himself not only in the wrong spot but on a whole trajectory that VR had zero chance of avoiding.



MrKipling43

5,788 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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blade7 said:

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

248 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Pothole said:
I'm biased cos I've never liked him. He knew exactly where Marques was and what was most likely to happen if he took the line he 'needed' to. He is too prepared to risk other riders' lives, imho. Cracking race, though. Shame the directors chose to show Marques' tantrum instead of Cal taking 3rd!
With regard to risking other riders' lives, I'd say exactly the opposite was the case. I don't like MM that much because he will kill someone one day (the incident at Phillip Island with Willarot, anybody?) I know Rossi was involved in Simoncellis' death, but that was just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The incident was exactly the same as the one at Austin in the Moto2 race, both outcomes the same, both decisions by Race Control the same.

Edited by mrmaggit on Friday 24th April 17:43

3DP

9,917 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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MrKipling43 said:
blade7 said:

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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mrmaggit said:
With regard to risking other riders' lives, I'd say exactly the opposite was the case. I don't like MM that much because he will kill someone one day
I must admit that this was my concern about MM in his first season in MGP, he seemed too "care less" about the potential impact of his riding and his actions. Had hoped he had grown/matured out of this. Let's hope last week was an aberration which he'll learn from, I would absolutely hate to see any immaturity on his (or anyone else's) part end in disaster.

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

227 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Marquez' riding is always on the edge, even some other riders have made that point subtly or blatantly. Spectacular though it is to watch, and I don't deny it, at some point he was bound to fall foul of some of his more "aggressive moves" reminiscent of his lower classes period.

As the cowboy character in Toy Story said about Buzz Lightyear's "flying", "THAT'S NOT FLYING (RACING) IT'S CONTROLLED CRASHING!!" biggrin

On the limit, or beyond= no margin for error.

CarsOrBikes

1,135 posts

184 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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There is a point where Marquez is asking to be on the receiving end of his own style of riding. He is great to watch controlling the bike as he does, a bit like Stoner, but he was a bad tempered twit, Marquez isn't. Rossi however, despite having been bashed into by Marquez, is a patient but focused guy, and will tolerate behaviour up to a point, always giving a new rider to GP space to gel and settle in I think. Beyond that, Marquez becomes a target like Gibernau, or Lorenzo a few years back, as in keep pushing him, barging him, or frankly riding like you could kill him, and Rossi's focus, experience, and similar single mindedness will show, consequently, as here, you see Rossi look over his right shoulder, and acknowledge Marquez's position, and still move the bike right, clearing Marquez in the process. Did he know he was going to hit him? Yes in my mind, and it was nothing short of Karma if Marquez didn't react or anticipate it coming back to him after the last action he took against Rossi. Marquez now knows he cannot behave badly, as his grace period, helped by a superior machine, is coming to an end perhaps. Marquez has ridden himself off the bike already in pursuit of Valentino this year, and we should remember this as his frustration, and inexperienced determination (battling a Rossi) are what contributed to his red mist event during this last race. His respect for Rossi should actually build greater. Better racing is ahead. I hope all who slated Rossi, and said his career was over, following the last few yeas of a downturn in performance, physically and with machine development, can own up and eat their words.