Chicken strips and tyre size

[Dog Star]

LoonR1 said:

I'm intrigued by the "riding to the edge and beyond" comment. I've ridden off the edge of the tyre once amd crashed. I don't know anyone who's managed to stay upright when they've got zero tyre on the ground either front or rear.

Jesus! What is your problem, Loon? When I wrote that i actually thought to myself that I'd best rephrase it as you'd jump on it.

It's simple - if the tyre is snotted up right to the edge its a fair assumption - not a dead cert, I'll admit - that you may well actually be off the edge a bit too? That's all I meant; I'm not trying to imply I have godlike riding powers or whatever.

If you choose to misconstrue then fill your boots - I'm not engaging you on the matter any more.

[Vincefox]

Not a dig at OP, but it surprises me when people are bothered by chicken strips. Theyre little indicator of anything .

[LoonR1]

Dog Star said:

Jesus! What is your problem, Loon? When I wrote that i actually thought to myself that I'd best rephrase it as you'd jump on it.

It's simple - if the tyre is snotted up right to the edge its a fair assumption - not a dead cert, I'll admit - that you may well actually be off the edge a bit too? That's all I meant; I'm not trying to imply I have godlike riding powers or whatever.

If you choose to misconstrue then fill your boots - I'm not engaging you on the matter any more.

Touchy. I'll explain my problem. You said "edge of tyre and beyond". You would've fallen off. Have a look at this video. Forget the MotoGP element though. It states that a SuperSport bike on road tyres would get c55 degrees lean, so you're saying you can go beyond that. That's what I find bizarre. It also references the credit card sized contact patch remains on both tyres even at extreme lean, if you lose that small amount then you're gone. Unless you're like Marquez and Edwards and regularly save it on your knee

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/09/26/the-lean-...

Edited by LoonR1 on Saturday 23 May 10:21

[bogie]

Vincefox said:

Not a dig at OP, but it surprises me when people are bothered by chicken strips. They're little indicator of anything .

Exactly, I can use all the tyre on one bike with 38mm of lean, but get to say 45-50deg on track on my other bike and there's still a bit left to go

I do find the science behind modern bike tyres amazing compared to 20 or even 10 years ago. What we call an "average" sport touring tyre these days way exceeds my skills or requirements on the road or even light amateur trackday use

[vrod]

I also have a 260 rear with a couple of mm chicken strips, it's about the profile.

Metzeler do a 260 designed specifically for the V-Rod, the edge of the tyre is just where the pegs scrape.

[d8mok]

I asked a similar question a while back on an another forum.

My 848 had no "chicken strips" at all on the left hand side and about 3mm on the right with its 180 tyre fitted. And im not a fast rider.

My 1199 has quite big ones 6-7mm left and maybe 1cm on the right. Im riding quicker on the panigale and there is loads of tyre left but that big 200 section tyre has lots of rubber to get rid of.

[bogie]

As per VRod, more proof that cruisers ride harder than power rangers, not much chicken on the 260 Metz *

• what this really means is when you are missing 15-20deg of lean angle, you just have to make the best of what you DO have

[Smiler1]

Tyres are quite expensive so I try to use all of mine - Loon why would you say you don't need to lean over your road bike as much as your track bike?

[LoonR1]

Smiler1 said:

Tyres are quite expensive so I try to use all of mine - Loon why would you say you don't need to lean over your road bike as much as your track bike?

On track there is a lot more Tarmac to use. Any time spent leant over is time not spent on full throttle

[Jazoli]

LoonR1 said:

On track there is a lot more Tarmac to use. Any time spent leant over is time not spent on full throttle

I'd forgotten how awesome you are.

[vrod]

bogie said:

As per VRod, more proof that cruisers ride harder than power rangers, not much chicken on the 260 Metz *

[fire3500]

Isn't it just that cruiser-riders are fat knackers? *genuine question*

[LoonR1]

Jazoli said:

I'd forgotten how awesome you are.

Don't ever forget again

[Mr Pew]

My chicken strips are coming along nicely on my new metzelers!

[LeadFarmer]

It's nice to scrub those chickens off isn't it. But as the legend known as Chris Rossiter said to me, road riders should see chicken strips as a safety margin.

[bogie]

fire3500 said:

Isn't it just that cruiser-riders are fat knackers? *genuine question*

LOL ...perhaps that's the stereotype that you may find many examples of at a HOG rally, but all the guys I know with cruisers in the garage also have sportsbikes, trail bikes, classics too...they just love riding ALL kinds of bikes

[Esceptico]

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LeadFarmer said:

It's nice to scrub those chickens off isn't it. But as the legend known as Chris Rossiter said to me, road riders should see chicken strips as a safety margin.

Not sure I would agree with that. Sounds too much like "speed is dangerous" whereas the truth is that inappropriate speed in dangerous. Surely the same with lean angle. 20 degrees around a blind bend with junctions the other side might be too much whereas 45 degrees on a clear, dry bend with sticky tyres and good Tarmac is safe.

[mopman94]

It is all to do with the shape of the tyre, my KTM had a very round tyre and the strips were about 3cm, my Honda CBR has a much flatter tyre and the strips are almost non-existent.

EDIT: As a note, the chicken strips don't have anything to do with someone riding ability

[moanthebairns]

I have never got to the edge of my tyre on the road. I have a nice 10 mm strip at each side

I Like keeping the little Michelin man on them.

[Mastodon2]

LeadFarmer said:

It's nice to scrub those chickens off isn't it. But as the legend known as Chris Rossiter said to me, road riders should see chicken strips as a safety margin.

I don't know who Chris Rossiter is (and googling "Chris Rossiter Motorcycle" only brings up two results with his name in, but I can't agree with him. Getting to the edge of the tyre can be done in complete safety - or as safe as you can ever be on a bike, just as riding dangerously can be done without leaning too far. I think he might have been winding you up.