Chicken strips and tyre size

Chicken strips and tyre size

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legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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You're at the edge of your tyre, banked right over naturally, on your favourite smooth B road bend.

Everything is great.

Then you need to tighten your line for whatever reason.


What then?

Esceptico

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7,440 posts

109 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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legzr1 said:
You're at the edge of your tyre, banked right over naturally, on your favourite smooth B road bend.

Everything is great.

Then you need to tighten your line for whatever reason.


What then?
I think you need to give a realistic reason for having to tighten your line. To be at an extreme lean angle and safe you would have to be on a clear bend, no oncoming traffic, good road surface etc. It is precisely because there are no reasons for a change in line that you could lean over further.

Secondly even if you are lent over enough to eliminate your chicken strips that doesn't mean that you are at maximum lean.

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Who really "decks" it though.

I mean really. Who on the road goes in at track lean angels on a piece of road that is 1/3 the width of the narrowest UK track.

What with bumps, grit, cars, pot holes, drains, st surface. You'd have to be a Bullst merchant or living on borrowed time.

wtdoom

3,742 posts

208 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Always have chicken strips on new tyres on the road . They go once I do a trackday . I never need to lean that far over on the roads personally .

SVS

3,824 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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wtdoom said:
Always have chicken strips on new tyres on the road . They go once I do a trackday . I never need to lean that far over on the roads personally .
+1. You're not the only one yes

bogie

16,377 posts

272 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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moanthebairns said:
Who really "decks" it though.

I mean really. Who on the road goes in at track lean angels on a piece of road that is 1/3 the width of the narrowest UK track.

What with bumps, grit, cars, pot holes, drains, st surface. You'd have to be a Bullst merchant or living on borrowed time.
Exactly, hence on the road it doesnt really matter what you ride, pretty much most bikes are as quick at covering ground if you want them to be. On the roads, you really need some exceptionally good conditions to start to scratch the surface of what a sportsbike can really do

Esceptico

Original Poster:

7,440 posts

109 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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moanthebairns said:
Who really "decks" it though.

I mean really. Who on the road goes in at track lean angels on a piece of road that is 1/3 the width of the narrowest UK track.

What with bumps, grit, cars, pot holes, drains, st surface. You'd have to be a Bullst merchant or living on borrowed time.
Just because you don't (and incidentally I most certainly don't either) doesn't mean that some people can't do it safely. You don't need to have big angles of lean on the road to make swift progress (you probably go fastest by minimising the time the bike is lent over). Wheeling is 100% pointless (and less safe than remaining on two wheels). Should people stop that as well?

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Esceptico said:
moanthebairns said:
Who really "decks" it though.

I mean really. Who on the road goes in at track lean angels on a piece of road that is 1/3 the width of the narrowest UK track.

What with bumps, grit, cars, pot holes, drains, st surface. You'd have to be a Bullst merchant or living on borrowed time.
Just because you don't (and incidentally I most certainly don't either) doesn't mean that some people can't do it safely. You don't need to have big angles of lean on the road to make swift progress (you probably go fastest by minimising the time the bike is lent over). Wheeling is 100% pointless (and less safe than remaining on two wheels). Should people stop that as well?
Roundabouts don't count. laugh

It's been a while since we had a thread of "I tried to get my knee down in a quiet industrial estate and binned it"

Who had the cbr f. I remember him doing it.

tight5

2,747 posts

159 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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legzr1 said:
You're at the edge of your tyre, banked right over naturally, on your favourite smooth B road bend.

Everything is great.

Then you need to tighten your line for whatever reason.


What then?
You might get yer knee down.
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legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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tight5 said:
You might get yer knee down.
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Highly doubtful lol.

I enjoy riding round the outside of those that do on the B-whatever.

Heroes...

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Sunday 24th May 2015
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Who is faster?

The guy at 20 degrees lean doing 100mph into a bend...

... Or the guy at 40 degrees lean at 100mph into the same bend?


bogie

16,377 posts

272 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Mr OCD said:
Who is faster?

The guy at 20 degrees lean doing 100mph into a bend...

... Or the guy at 40 degrees lean at 100mph into the same bend?
depends on the angle of the bend and road surface across it smile



neelyp

1,691 posts

211 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Mr OCD said:
Who is faster?

The guy at 20 degrees lean doing 100mph into a bend...

... Or the guy at 40 degrees lean at 100mph into the same bend?
Trick question, they're both doing 100mph.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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neelyp said:
Mr OCD said:
Who is faster?

The guy at 20 degrees lean doing 100mph into a bend...

... Or the guy at 40 degrees lean at 100mph into the same bend?
Trick question, they're both doing 100mph.
They're both doing 100 INTO the corner. If we follow it through logically then the quicker one through the corner is the one who holds their speed longer and gets back on the throttle quickest. Logic would suggest the one at 20 degrees would do that easier than the one at 40 degrees.

neelyp

1,691 posts

211 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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LoonR1 said:
neelyp said:
Mr OCD said:
Who is faster?

The guy at 20 degrees lean doing 100mph into a bend...

... Or the guy at 40 degrees lean at 100mph into the same bend?
Trick question, they're both doing 100mph.
They're both doing 100 INTO the corner. If we follow it through logically then the quicker one through the corner is the one who holds their speed longer and gets back on the throttle quickest. Logic would suggest the one at 20 degrees would do that easier than the one at 40 degrees.
But for someone with OCD he didn't say that wink
The one at 20 degrees is liable to be hanging off his bike to get on the power sooner, I agree.

Tim85

1,742 posts

135 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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This sounds like something of a 90s film.

Pop quiz hot shot, a mans on a bike, once this man goes 100mph round a corner the bomb is armed. If he drops below 20 degrees of lean the bomb goes off... What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO??Ω

Smiler1

179 posts

196 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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Mr OCD said:
Who is faster?

The guy at 20 degrees lean doing 100mph into a bend...

... Or the guy at 40 degrees lean at 100mph into the same bend?
Just a thought but perhaps the guy at 40 degrees of lean needs that because he is doing 120mph. I know that's not what you said but maybe someone has used all his tyre going round a bend because he is carrying more speed?

DJP

1,198 posts

179 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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I think that it comes down to tyre shape.

On my last bike I had no chicken strips - the tyres were worn evenly right to the very edge.

On my current steed, I'm sure that I corner considerably faster yet I still have persistent 1/2" chicken strips even after "ear'oling" it.

Go figure, as they say.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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LoonR1 said:
They're both doing 100 INTO the corner. If we follow it through logically then the quicker one through the corner is the one who holds their speed longer and gets back on the throttle quickest. Logic would suggest the one at 20 degrees would do that easier than the one at 40 degrees.
Exactly my point. wink

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Monday 25th May 2015
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LoonR1 said:
They're both doing 100 INTO the corner. If we follow it through logically then the quicker one through the corner is the one who holds their speed longer and gets back on the throttle quickest. Logic would suggest the one at 20 degrees would do that easier than the one at 40 degrees.
Exactly my point. wink