Chicken strips and tyre size
Discussion
I hardly think that getting rid of your chicken strips on the road is 'pressing on' too much?!?
Although some tyres like the PP3 has tread right up the side it seems, I don't have any on my road bikes. I don't work to get them off, they just disappear with spirited riding. In recent years only PP3s are the only tyre I've used where I didn't get to the edge, purely because of their design.
On a dry, warm road, clearly sighted, there are loads of opportunities to crank it right over if you're not hanging off. As you are not hanging off, a modern fast road tyre is probably using no more than 70% of its grip at this stage.
There is no danger in feeding in some lean and speed on sweepers, off ramps, big roundabouts etc. Obviously if you are riding a gravel and pothole strewn road with frost on your visor, you aren't going to be using using all of your tyre.
I'd actually advise trying to lean over a bike a long way on the road. If you build the confidence to do it occasionally in safe locations, you might actually have the confidence to chuck in big lean if a situation arises on the road where your choice is lean more or crash, like a hazard in your lane on a bend or tightening corner that you mildly misjudged. Sure beats just standing it up and crashing.
Whether you choose to lean it over much on the road is your own business of course but this forum is turning into a MAG/IAM zone recently!
"Save knee down for the track"
then
"Save using the full width of your tyre for the track"
what's next?
"I never use more than 8000rpm on the road. Save that for the track".
LOL!
Although some tyres like the PP3 has tread right up the side it seems, I don't have any on my road bikes. I don't work to get them off, they just disappear with spirited riding. In recent years only PP3s are the only tyre I've used where I didn't get to the edge, purely because of their design.
On a dry, warm road, clearly sighted, there are loads of opportunities to crank it right over if you're not hanging off. As you are not hanging off, a modern fast road tyre is probably using no more than 70% of its grip at this stage.
There is no danger in feeding in some lean and speed on sweepers, off ramps, big roundabouts etc. Obviously if you are riding a gravel and pothole strewn road with frost on your visor, you aren't going to be using using all of your tyre.
I'd actually advise trying to lean over a bike a long way on the road. If you build the confidence to do it occasionally in safe locations, you might actually have the confidence to chuck in big lean if a situation arises on the road where your choice is lean more or crash, like a hazard in your lane on a bend or tightening corner that you mildly misjudged. Sure beats just standing it up and crashing.
Whether you choose to lean it over much on the road is your own business of course but this forum is turning into a MAG/IAM zone recently!
"Save knee down for the track"
then
"Save using the full width of your tyre for the track"
what's next?
"I never use more than 8000rpm on the road. Save that for the track".
LOL!
t, supercorsas and on a track bike. What does this mean?! 
3DP said:
Whether you choose to lean it over much on the road is your own business of course but this forum is turning into a MAG/IAM zone recently!
couldnt agree more. Sometimes i think people are scared to say what they actually enjoy doing as theyll get jumped on by most people. Theres a handful of people on here that i think when ive been riding 15 years i hope im still having as much fun as they look like theyre having. Then theres others that give the impression they dont even enjoy riding and its such a serious affair.3DP said:
I've just run in my 2015 new bike using the motorsport method, so yes I'd also suggest that too 
Good news then.Tagged along with an 1199R with 100 miles on the clock yesterday (nice machine and the rider's a decent lad), mine has around 300 miles on it and our ideas of 'running in' where vastly different...
Me and Tight5 were pulled over for a friendly chat by two of Durhams finest motorcycle officers.
Everything was going fine, me admitting to taking it easy (tight5 suggesting I wasn't - cheers mate lol) until the WPC mentioned my little incident with a garage wall and an Exup on the rear wheel - it was 20 years ago - don't they ever forget!
THAT'S why I keep stories to myself or face-to-face - too many buggers with too long memories!
That, and the usual PH do-gooders.
legzr1 said:
3DP said:
I've just run in my 2015 new bike using the motorsport method, so yes I'd also suggest that too
Good news then.Tagged along with an 1199R with 100 miles on the clock yesterday (nice machine and the rider's a decent lad), mine has around 300 miles on it and our ideas of 'running in' where vastly different...
Me and Tight5 were pulled over for a friendly chat by two of Durhams finest motorcycle officers.
Everything was going fine, me admitting to taking it easy (tight5 suggesting I wasn't - cheers mate lol) until the WPC mentioned my little incident with a garage wall and an Exup on the rear wheel - it was 20 years ago - don't they ever forget!
THAT'S why I keep stories to myself or face-to-face - too many buggers with too long memories!
That, and the usual PH do-gooders.
3DP said:
I hardly think that getting rid of your chicken strips on the road is 'pressing on' too much?!?
Although some tyres like the PP3 has tread right up the side it seems, I don't have any on my road bikes. I don't work to get them off, they just disappear with spirited riding. In recent years only PP3s are the only tyre I've used where I didn't get to the edge, purely because of their design.
On a dry, warm road, clearly sighted, there are loads of opportunities to crank it right over if you're not hanging off. As you are not hanging off, a modern fast road tyre is probably using no more than 70% of its grip at this stage.
There is no danger in feeding in some lean and speed on sweepers, off ramps, big roundabouts etc. Obviously if you are riding a gravel and pothole strewn road with frost on your visor, you aren't going to be using using all of your tyre.
I'd actually advise trying to lean over a bike a long way on the road. If you build the confidence to do it occasionally in safe locations, you might actually have the confidence to chuck in big lean if a situation arises on the road where your choice is lean more or crash, like a hazard in your lane on a bend or tightening corner that you mildly misjudged. Sure beats just standing it up and crashing.
Whether you choose to lean it over much on the road is your own business of course but this forum is turning into a MAG/IAM zone recently!
"Save knee down for the track"
then
"Save using the full width of your tyre for the track"
what's next?
"I never use more than 8000rpm on the road. Save that for the track".
LOL!
This is kinda what I was getting at Although some tyres like the PP3 has tread right up the side it seems, I don't have any on my road bikes. I don't work to get them off, they just disappear with spirited riding. In recent years only PP3s are the only tyre I've used where I didn't get to the edge, purely because of their design.
On a dry, warm road, clearly sighted, there are loads of opportunities to crank it right over if you're not hanging off. As you are not hanging off, a modern fast road tyre is probably using no more than 70% of its grip at this stage.
There is no danger in feeding in some lean and speed on sweepers, off ramps, big roundabouts etc. Obviously if you are riding a gravel and pothole strewn road with frost on your visor, you aren't going to be using using all of your tyre.
I'd actually advise trying to lean over a bike a long way on the road. If you build the confidence to do it occasionally in safe locations, you might actually have the confidence to chuck in big lean if a situation arises on the road where your choice is lean more or crash, like a hazard in your lane on a bend or tightening corner that you mildly misjudged. Sure beats just standing it up and crashing.
Whether you choose to lean it over much on the road is your own business of course but this forum is turning into a MAG/IAM zone recently!
"Save knee down for the track"
then
"Save using the full width of your tyre for the track"
what's next?
"I never use more than 8000rpm on the road. Save that for the track".
LOL!
I've just put a PP3 190/55 on my blade and have chicken strips. The tyre has a more pronounced triangulated shape than other tyres I have used and I am not keen on the way it has affected the handling. It is not very progressive and feels as if it just drops into the corners. I have no strips on a 160/60 on my old gsxr and don't normally on the blade. For me it's tyre profile not width. That's my excuse anyway.
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