Wtdooms stupid question of the week , abs , the end of mods?
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Forgive me for being stupid but I just thought of something regarding abs .
If you have an abs / linked brake system bike like my r1 for example , does that mean you should never change the brake calipers ?
I've always enjoyed making small modifications to my bikes over the years , does having abs and lbs make this impossible or do the calipers somehow not matter ?
Genuinely interested , feel free to give a detailed response if you have time please .
Has anyone actually modified a bike with abs with different calipers ?
If you have an abs / linked brake system bike like my r1 for example , does that mean you should never change the brake calipers ?
I've always enjoyed making small modifications to my bikes over the years , does having abs and lbs make this impossible or do the calipers somehow not matter ?
Genuinely interested , feel free to give a detailed response if you have time please .
Has anyone actually modified a bike with abs with different calipers ?
Only possible problem would be if you fitted substantially better calipers, the ABS might not be calibrated for their initial bite and stopping power. If the ABS computer sees a more rapid rate of deceleration, it may release the pressure effectively negating the better brakes.
However, if you can switch the ABS off, for track use etc, then you should still see the benefit of better brakes
However, if you can switch the ABS off, for track use etc, then you should still see the benefit of better brakes
bass gt3 said:
Only possible problem would be if you fitted substantially better calipers, the ABS might not be calibrated for their initial bite and stopping power. If the ABS computer sees a more rapid rate of deceleration, it may release the pressure effectively negating the better brakes.
However, if you can switch the ABS off, for track use etc, then you should still see the benefit of better brakes
This is the kind of thing happening , I was thinking about . However, if you can switch the ABS off, for track use etc, then you should still see the benefit of better brakes
Interesting for sure !
black-k1 said:
Assuming you keep the appropriate plumbing and don't mess up or remove any of the sensors then there is no reason you couldn't change the calipers.
But won't the sensors etc be calibrated for a particular level of function , or am I missing something ?anonymous said:
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That would be a no then , Id imagine re calibrating an abs system is not an easy task ?Jazoli said:
Are the brakes on a 2015 R1 bad enough that you are thinking of changing the calipers? Do you belong in the riding gods thread or is it just a bling thing?
Neither really . Im getting new levers and found a lovely brembo with master cylinder set up . That got me thinking initially about this question .I have since found cheaper and better ( for my needs ) adjustable levers , so the original question is dead but I have come across a question that I find really intriguing ( to me at least ).
Unless Im missing something ( likely to be fair ) ABS bikes may well almost be the end of the aftermarket brake upgrade rendering them obsolete .
Edited by wtdoom on Tuesday 26th May 13:18
They take an age to bed in but they're just starting to feel 'ok' after around 400 miles.
Someone used to riding a 10 year old Blade or whatever would find them amazing.
Anyone who's used to modern Brembo monoblocks will think 'meh'.
Lots of amazing stuff on the 2015 R1 - the brakes ain't one of them.
Someone used to riding a 10 year old Blade or whatever would find them amazing.
Anyone who's used to modern Brembo monoblocks will think 'meh'.
Lots of amazing stuff on the 2015 R1 - the brakes ain't one of them.
wtdoom said:
black-k1 said:
Assuming you keep the appropriate plumbing and don't mess up or remove any of the sensors then there is no reason you couldn't change the calipers.
But won't the sensors etc be calibrated for a particular level of function , or am I missing something ?wtdoom said:
Jazoli said:
Are the brakes on a 2015 R1 bad enough that you are thinking of changing the calipers? Do you belong in the riding gods thread or is it just a bling thing?
Neither really . Im getting new levers and found a lovely brembo with master cylinder set up . That got me thinking initially about this question .I have since found cheaper and better ( for my needs ) adjustable levers , so the original question is dead but I have come across a question that I find really intriguing ( to me at least ).
Unless Im missing something ( likely to be fair ) ABS bikes may well almost be the end of the aftermarket brake upgrade rendering them obsolete .
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