A picture a day....biker banter (Vol 4)
Discussion
Biker's Nemesis said:
Gunk said:
Black would look good
The plan is to get another set of wheels (Black) in the near future.I'm having to be carful what I spend as the Management is starting to rumble about expenditure.
podman said:
snorky782 said:
Remal, you're not going to like this, but it will go 50/50. Grace vs Tanner is the specific case as ruled upon by the Court of Appeal which compels all lower courts to find that way. That case involved a two lane roundabout where a car was turning right form the left hand lane and collided with a motorbike exiting the roundabout from the right hand lane.
Your insurers can not fight the case in court unless they have new evidence which differentiates it from G vs T and there isn't any.
If thats the case , id "find" a reliable and strong witness to help your corner.Your insurers can not fight the case in court unless they have new evidence which differentiates it from G vs T and there isn't any.
Glad your OK anyway mate, sickened to see the H2 damaged but you'll get her back on the road none the worse for it.
Good luck.
Biker's Nemesis said:
podman said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
All body work fitted now, rear sets and engine case protection too fit next, 490 miles on the clock, 110 too go.
Looking good, is it a chore to run in or an enjoyable enough getting familiar with it experience?I hope to have it run in within the week now.
RemaL said:
Was out last Friday and went to Ace cafe in London to meet Johnny from here. Lovely day apart from some white hire van
who at Cirencester roundabout turning left decided to go right right at the last moment in front of me landing me to apply the brakes and hit the side of his van about 10mph. It's did now know the area and was not from the Uk. Left a nice Matt sized imprint into his van.
Unlucky that the police came along 10 seconds after and did not witness the
cutting me up. But I have to say they helped me out as I was a little shaken.Main thing is that the damage seems to be cosmetic from the mirror and damage to the side fairing. Which is still going to cost £780 + vat. Just hoping it goes my way but with no witnesses I don't know.
Very very pissed at the time but chilled now.
Not one accident on my blade in 5 years and 8 weeks into having a H2 and this . Boll.ocks
Pics on th side as I've posted this from my phone sorry
From a repair point of view I think you're winning - they'll have to cut the side out of the van to do a proper job. It's rare the bike 'wins'.
snorky782 said:
podman said:
snorky782 said:
Remal, you're not going to like this, but it will go 50/50. Grace vs Tanner is the specific case as ruled upon by the Court of Appeal which compels all lower courts to find that way. That case involved a two lane roundabout where a car was turning right form the left hand lane and collided with a motorbike exiting the roundabout from the right hand lane.
Your insurers can not fight the case in court unless they have new evidence which differentiates it from G vs T and there isn't any.
If thats the case , id "find" a reliable and strong witness to help your corner.Your insurers can not fight the case in court unless they have new evidence which differentiates it from G vs T and there isn't any.
Glad your OK anyway mate, sickened to see the H2 damaged but you'll get her back on the road none the worse for it.
Good luck.
I am aware without a witness or cctv it was his word against mine.
Just glad there is not much damage to the bike and i'm ok
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t happens RemaL said:
I am aware without a witness or cctv it was his word against mine.
Just glad there is not much damage to the bike and i'm ok
st happens
I was just pointing out to podman that witnesses won't alter the outcome. If both of you say exactly what happened and are backed up by dozens of witnesses than it's sadly still a 50/50 outcome. Just glad there is not much damage to the bike and i'm ok
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t happens Edited by snorky782 on Wednesday 1st June 13:01
mitzy said:
Glad your OK Matt
Bikes can be fixed quick , you would have taken longer.
Have you got an estimate of how much it will cost to fix?
BN - Black wheels , everyone needs some Yamaha yellow in their life.
All I have is the £140 for the mirror and mount and £770 for the side panel Bikes can be fixed quick , you would have taken longer.
Have you got an estimate of how much it will cost to fix?
BN - Black wheels , everyone needs some Yamaha yellow in their life.
snorky782 said:
Remal, you're not going to like this, but it will go 50/50. Grace vs Tanner is the specific case as ruled upon by the Court of Appeal which compels all lower courts to find that way. That case involved a two lane roundabout where a car was turning right form the left hand lane and collided with a motorbike exiting the roundabout from the right hand lane.
Your insurers can not fight the case in court unless they have new evidence which differentiates it from G vs T and there isn't any.
when was this because i won mine 75 - 25 in circumstances as described?Your insurers can not fight the case in court unless they have new evidence which differentiates it from G vs T and there isn't any.
as for the bike, i would have been apoplectic with rage - a real pity
moto_traxport said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
podman said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
All body work fitted now, rear sets and engine case protection too fit next, 490 miles on the clock, 110 too go.
Looking good, is it a chore to run in or an enjoyable enough getting familiar with it experience?I hope to have it run in within the week now.
podman said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
podman said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Fast Freddie Spencer on a CX500
Thanks John.
terry tibbs said:
when was this because i won mine 75 - 25 in circumstances as described?
as for the bike, i would have been apoplectic with rage - a real pity
2003. It's set in stone. Insurers have to follow it, as if they don't the side losing out will simply take it to court and it will settle 50/50. All lower courts are bound by the decision of the Court of Appeal. as for the bike, i would have been apoplectic with rage - a real pity
boxxob said:
Using the short description of what happened, it seems likely that the circumstances are similar enough to the case you referenced. However, I assume that not every roundabout collision like this has gone 50/50, since there will always be numerous circumstances which deviate from uniformity of the precedent?
It's not similar it's pretty well identical. If two vehicles collide on a roundabout unless it's front to rear, then it's more or less always going to go 50/50. ash73 said:
snorky782 said:
ash73 said:
+1
A BikerPro dashcam could help in these circumstances, I've got one and it's pretty good; install and forget.
No it wouldn't help. A dashcam does not override the Court of Appeal. A BikerPro dashcam could help in these circumstances, I've got one and it's pretty good; install and forget.
snorky782 said:
Your insurers can not fight the case in court unless they have new evidence which differentiates it from G vs T
...The case ruled that the one going round the roundabout had a duty of care to those exiting and that those exiting had an equal duty of care to those potentially going round from the left lane. Your shiny dashcam will prove that the case is an exact match for Gtprace vs Tanner and a court is compelled to rule in line with that precedent.
Or, you can ignore what I've posted and continue to live in the misguided belief that your dashcam is some sort of trump card.
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