£4-5k on an FJR1300 or a R1200GS?

£4-5k on an FJR1300 or a R1200GS?

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Reardy Mister

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13,757 posts

223 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Which would you have and why?

Riding is:

A daily 40mile commute (round trip) into central London

Occasional day or weekend trip with the missus on the back

Annual continental sojourn.

I'm 6'1 and 85kgs and last bike was an R1.




CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Neither, Sprint ST.

Chipchap

2,591 posts

198 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Oddly enough I was just looking at the Yamaha today and was astonished to see just how much value they offer as a used bike. I saw a 2002 28,000 mile bike in black at a smidge over £4k asking.

They are 140 BHP with all the toys. Yes they may be a bit big for a London commute but they are certainly worth a closer look as is a K1300S BMW


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Reardy Mister

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Monday 15th June 2015
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CaptainSlow said:
Neither, Sprint ST.
Ok, I'm open the Trumpet idea. But in what grounds? What does it do the others don't?

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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I would it is more nimble on the commute and more enjoyable for touring. Sounds better too.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Chipchap said:
Oddly enough I was just looking at the Yamaha today and was astonished to see just how much value they offer as a used bike. I saw a 2002 28,000 mile bike in black at a smidge over £4k asking.

They are 140 BHP with all the toys. Yes they may be a bit big for a London commute but they are certainly worth a closer look as is a K1300S BMW


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£4k for a 13 year old bike?

MrB1obby

771 posts

151 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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I would say r1200, but that's purely because I dont like the fjr for no reason - gtr1400 if you upped the budget a bit?

Although, surely a sportsbike is slimmer for the filtering, more fun on the open road etc which makes it a better commuter.

Weekend jaunts will be more fun because sportsbike and you can just get one of those £20 Groupon 'spa days' and then ask for forgiveness when it only lasts 20 minutes.

And the annual trips, you want to be on something light and agile for those alpine switchbacks, dont you?

05 ZX10r is the perfect bike sir.

Reardy Mister

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223 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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MrB1obby said:
I would say r1200, but that's purely because I dont like the fjr for no reason - gtr1400 if you upped the budget a bit?

Although, surely a sportsbike is slimmer for the filtering, more fun on the open road etc which makes it a better commuter.

Weekend jaunts will be more fun because sportsbike and you can just get one of those £20 Groupon 'spa days' and then ask for forgiveness when it only lasts 20 minutes.

And the annual trips, you want to be on something light and agile for those alpine switchbacks, dont you?

05 ZX10r is the perfect bike sir.
Hmmm, GTR you say?

Something like this?

http://goo.gl/IrT7gf

I think I'm about done with sports bikes for a while. A sports bike won't be a good central London commuter (the R1 wasn't so nothing else will be!) and I want a bit more comfort, a bit more protection from the elements and a bit less frenetic. Plus the Mrs needs to be a little bit comfortable.

I was thinking r1200GS for times when I need to kerb hop (parking or traffic dodging), for sitting up quite high in traffic and because I think I might still be able to hoist the odd wheelie on one. No reason I can't track it either. Should be ok for the missus, maybe a little light on protection from the elements. And I get to wear one of those cool dual sport helmets....



Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Someone on here goes into the London everyday on a FJR & reckons they filter fine. Only GS I ever see filtering has the world tour handbags on & gets in the way a lot.

Reardy Mister

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223 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Girth may well be an issue on the GS. So might reliability, looking at some reports....

As I'm going to rely on it for commuting, I want some peace of mind that will start first time every time and get me there. I don't fancy pushing one up the side of the A3 in November.

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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I found commuting on my older Multistrada Adventure styled bike a little tricky sometimes filtering.

On the KTM SM with High bars it was evern worse.

Although both these bikes could hoik up a good wheelie at will when the mood would so take you. I miss the Multistrada...

I am now commuting on a 03 Triumph Daytona 955i which is ace.


Back the original question however...
I would ride the FJR and see what I thought. The GS is a nice bike.. regardless of touratech appendiges.
However the lack of power may not suit.

J B L

4,200 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Hooli said:
Someone on here goes into the London everyday on a FJR & reckons they filter fine. Only GS I ever see filtering has the world tour handbags on & gets in the way a lot.
yes I also remember someone (could have been the same) mentioning that they clear most vans and cars mirrors nicely.

I'd like one as I'm facing an occasional long commute soon but I still can't decide whether it's for me or not.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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J B L said:
Hooli said:
Someone on here goes into the London everyday on a FJR & reckons they filter fine. Only GS I ever see filtering has the world tour handbags on & gets in the way a lot.
yes I also remember someone (could have been the same) mentioning that they clear most vans and cars mirrors nicely.

I'd like one as I'm facing an occasional long commute soon but I still can't decide whether it's for me or not.
That rings a bell. Normally in the same thread myself or Wedg1e mentioned van mirrors are just the right height to get in the way on a Pan Euro.

Reardy Mister

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Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Hooli said:
J B L said:
Hooli said:
Someone on here goes into the London everyday on a FJR & reckons they filter fine. Only GS I ever see filtering has the world tour handbags on & gets in the way a lot.
yes I also remember someone (could have been the same) mentioning that they clear most vans and cars mirrors nicely.

I'd like one as I'm facing an occasional long commute soon but I still can't decide whether it's for me or not.
That rings a bell. Normally in the same thread myself or Wedg1e mentioned van mirrors are just the right height to get in the way on a Pan Euro.
yes

That was my thread as well, re a FZ1000 as a commuter. Same conundrum its just that the budget has gone up as I dazzled the Mrs with some man-maths as I spoon fed her melted chocolate and promised increased QT on weekends by having a bigger bike. biggrin


Renn Sport

2,761 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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I think an FJR would be pretty awesome two up. I dont know... I am thinking GS.

They look comfy two up and if out in the countryside the riding position means you can see more.


fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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I commute around 40 miles each way from Amersham into central London, along the A40 and then down the Marylebone Road, Farringdon, etc on an 05 GS1200. Width isn't an issue at all. Other than guys on sportsbikes who fold their mirrors in to go through small gaps, I've never really been held up filtering.

If you go down the GS route, there are a couple of things to check depending upon mileage. First is the final drive and second is the driveshaft. Other than that, mine gets an annual wash, 4 oil changes a year and is bomb proof. Now on around 90k miles.

Reardy Mister

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Tuesday 16th June 2015
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fergus said:
I commute around 40 miles each way from Amersham into central London, along the A40 and then down the Marylebone Road, Farringdon, etc on an 05 GS1200. Width isn't an issue at all. Other than guys on sportsbikes who fold their mirrors in to go through small gaps, I've never really been held up filtering.

If you go down the GS route, there are a couple of things to check depending upon mileage. First is the final drive and second is the driveshaft. Other than that, mine gets an annual wash, 4 oil changes a year and is bomb proof. Now on around 90k miles.
Useful to know, many thanks. I work near Farringdon myself.

A993LAD

1,639 posts

222 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Neither

Fjr too bulky/heavy/agricultural

R1200 too slow

Try a vfr 1200. Dirt cheap 2nd hand but more fun than your suggested options.

I'm biased because I own one but I have also had the other 2


Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Reardy Mister said:
Useful to know, many thanks. I work near Farringdon myself.
Me too smile

Commute from near Reading (so 100 miles a day). Weapon of choice - TDM 900. Nothing to touch it for the job IMHO.

Reardy Mister

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Tuesday 16th June 2015
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A993LAD said:
Neither

Fjr too bulky/heavy/agricultural

R1200 too slow

Try a vfr 1200. Dirt cheap 2nd hand but more fun than your suggested options.

I'm biased because I own one but I have also had the other 2
Great call. I love Hondas and the design of the VFR 1200. Slightly concerned about pillion comfort though. And they only just squeak into my budget, if I'm lucky.

Hopefully they are nothing like a Blackbird to ride, because I find that really uncomfortable. Nothing before or since has sent my twig and berries to the Bermuda triangle, like a Black bird does. Strange.