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fergus said:
Thanks. Did the supplying dealer provide the European certificate of conformity, etc?
Did you need to prove the speedo can be read in mph and also give details of the headlight beam pattern, via an MOT registered garage?
CoC automatically comes with the rest of the paperwork for the bike, also came with export plates valid for 2 weeks (that include insurance). No requirement to prove speedo etc. You just need to fill in the forms and send them off. DVLA don't need to inspect a new vehicle as all info is on the CoC.Did you need to prove the speedo can be read in mph and also give details of the headlight beam pattern, via an MOT registered garage?
bass gt3 said:
fergus said:
Renn Sport said:
Wow... I want one from germany for that money!
The stock price is EUR 18,000 / 1.4 = GBP 12,900. Still a circa £3k saving over a "UK" bike.fergus said:
bass gt3 said:
fergus said:
Renn Sport said:
Wow... I want one from germany for that money!
The stock price is EUR 18,000 / 1.4 = GBP 12,900. Still a circa £3k saving over a "UK" bike.I thought it was a matter of VAT & duties and you're set..
I know personal vehicles can be brought in duty free but surely where it comes from is immaterial as long as duties are paid?
Edited by bass gt3 on Friday 31st July 15:26
bass gt3 said:
Not possible to import as a new bike then??
I thought it was a matter of VAT & duties and you're set..
I know personal vehicles can be brought in duty free but surely where it comes from is immaterial as long as duties are paid?
Agree re VAT and duty. I think the sticking point may be around proving vehicle conformity. Although David mentioned that his paperwork included CoC details (but that was within the EU...)I thought it was a matter of VAT & duties and you're set..
I know personal vehicles can be brought in duty free but surely where it comes from is immaterial as long as duties are paid?
Edited by bass gt3 on Friday 31st July 15:26
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval
fergus said:
bass gt3 said:
Not possible to import as a new bike then??
I thought it was a matter of VAT & duties and you're set..
I know personal vehicles can be brought in duty free but surely where it comes from is immaterial as long as duties are paid?
Agree re VAT and duty. I think the sticking point may be around proving vehicle conformity. Although David mentioned that his paperwork included CoC details (but that was within the EU...)I thought it was a matter of VAT & duties and you're set..
I know personal vehicles can be brought in duty free but surely where it comes from is immaterial as long as duties are paid?
Edited by bass gt3 on Friday 31st July 15:26
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval
But at 11000 GBP off the dealers floor shows what premium is being charged in the UK!!
fergus said:
One last question. Did the dealer supply a "UK spec" bike (in Porsche terms, "C16" spec)? Did you get an English manual, etc? Are all the switch gear labels generic symbols or are they in text? I presume the warranty is EU wide?
Could you PM me the name of the supplying dealer?
Just go to KTM Germany and you will see a list of dealers. Pick the one that is nearest in Northern Germany, send an email and see what deal they can offer. They all speak English. Mine was from the south of Germany due to personal reasons but that dealer had none left after he sold me his last one.Could you PM me the name of the supplying dealer?
The manual is multi-language and the bikes can be configured to show mph/kmh etc, so the bikes are the same to start with.
Most of this thread seems to be about KTMs despite the title, but I had a go on a S1000XR today. I'm currently riding a 2008 R12GS, and vaguely thinking about changing it for something else, so thought I'd try this out.
First thing to say is it is really good fun to ride
. The bike I had was still limited to 7000, but that was plenty to give an idea of the performance, which is obviously a long way ahead of my old GS. The handling was great, very chuckable and the bike felt solid on the road, brakes excellent. The up and down quickshifter is superb, with lightning upshifts, slightly slower downshifts, but not having to use the clutch is a huge bonus, especially as it's quite heavy and the lever's unadjustable. The engine has quite a raw feel about it, it's buzzy and vibey at times, but that just seems to egg you on to rev it out of the buzzy zone. The screen is fairly effective, even for me at 6'4, but it's a pity you can only adjust it to two positions. Anyway, I whizzed round the Chilterns for an hour and arrived back at the dealer with a big smile on.
If I was going to get one, I think it'd have to be as a second bike as I wouldn't want to ruin it with winter use, and it's not as practical as the GS. It's probably not as good for a pillion either, which would be an issue as the missus does come on the back occasionally. But as a second bike it's pretty expensive, so unfortunately I don't see myself getting one right now.
k around with the engine/tc modes to allow a bit of fun, impromptu wheelies are a thing of the past on these bloody things.outnumbered said:
First thing to say is it is really good fun to ride . The bike I had was still limited to 7000,
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The engine has quite a raw feel about it, it's buzzy and vibey at times, but that just seems to egg you on to rev it out of the buzzy zone.
No - the buzziness gets worse as you wind it on. It's really bad, and swapping bars/bar-end weights doesn't help it.. The bike I had was still limited to 7000, ...
The engine has quite a raw feel about it, it's buzzy and vibey at times, but that just seems to egg you on to rev it out of the buzzy zone.
gwm said:
outnumbered said:
OK, so maybe I didn't get the full effect due to the running-in limit. Is this something that's specific to the XR, or are the RR and R the same ?
I've got an R with heavy bar end weights and it's still buzzy. Seems to just be a characteristic of the engine. Just means I need to find another winter bike/medium distance tourer for now. Probably something boring like an FZ1.
To clear up a few issues:
I'm currently up to 4000 miles of ownership, the buzz/vibes is a characteristic which differs but is no worse than a V Twin, it starts at about 5500 and is gone by 6500rpm. I barely notice it and on long rides at constant speed (where it could be an issue) just use cruise control so it has never become a problem.
We've done 350 miles today, 2 up riding with a 2015 GSA and 1200 Explorer. The XR is far quicker in the bends as well as the straight, and neither of us have had any issues with comfort. Fuel wise it's a little thirstier but that's probably down to my 'enthusiastic' riding.
I really think it's a brilliant bike, I accept its not everyone's ideal machine but so far it's dealt with everything I've thrown at it: fully loaded camping trips, 2 up touring and 150 mph hooning.
Another 350 miles to come tomorrow... Can't wait!!!
I'm currently up to 4000 miles of ownership, the buzz/vibes is a characteristic which differs but is no worse than a V Twin, it starts at about 5500 and is gone by 6500rpm. I barely notice it and on long rides at constant speed (where it could be an issue) just use cruise control so it has never become a problem.
We've done 350 miles today, 2 up riding with a 2015 GSA and 1200 Explorer. The XR is far quicker in the bends as well as the straight, and neither of us have had any issues with comfort. Fuel wise it's a little thirstier but that's probably down to my 'enthusiastic' riding.
I really think it's a brilliant bike, I accept its not everyone's ideal machine but so far it's dealt with everything I've thrown at it: fully loaded camping trips, 2 up touring and 150 mph hooning.
Another 350 miles to come tomorrow... Can't wait!!!
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