New bike incoming - Triumph Daytona T595
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I've checked the oil, it's in good shape. The steam wasn't coming from the exhaust, rather it was dripping down from the coolant header tank onto the exhaust. The tank is concealed at the back of the bike, under the rear seat pod. When it boiled over, the coolant splashed down onto the exhaust pipe and steamed off from there. I'd be a lot more worried if the steam was actually shooting out of the exhaust itself!
It is a shame to read but it looks too good to not keep it!
I still see the one I work I borrowed and it makes me want it. He flogged it to another guy for £480 recently... i was gutted!
Honestly no idea what you've spent on it but you'd easily get a mid 90's blade for the same money or less. I know because I did.
I still see the one I work I borrowed and it makes me want it. He flogged it to another guy for £480 recently... i was gutted!
Honestly no idea what you've spent on it but you'd easily get a mid 90's blade for the same money or less. I know because I did.
I've not checked the fuses yet. I would have went to them as a next port of call given my suspicions over the fan. But given that I've made arrangements to have it picked up on Thursday, I'm not going to go fiddling with it. I'd be overjoyed if it was that. You have no idea how badly I just want to be out riding this thing.
Checking the fuses for the fan is a useless exercise anyway, the fans should only stop overheating, and the bike shouldn't really go into the red on the temp gauge just from a slow ride through traffic, especially if you hit traffic on the way out of the dealers and the bike had otherwise been cold and the oil not warmed through. However, the main reason I think it's not the fans is the temp gauge dropping right down on the open road - the needle should stick in the middle during normal riding with proper air flow, the fact it's going up and down makes me think knackered thermostat. OP didn't hear the fans but I'd bet a fiver they're working normally, he more than likely didn't notice them due to the excitement / stress of getting his first big bike home. If the thermostat or water pump was knackered, the fans wouldn't stand a chance of stopping the bike overheating anyway.
Probably worth the dealer doing a compression test too to make sure this overheating episode didn't blow the head gasket. A lack of mayo in the oil is a good sign, but that is not to say the gasket hasn't gone and it wouldn't mayo up the next time you rode it.
Probably worth the dealer doing a compression test too to make sure this overheating episode didn't blow the head gasket. A lack of mayo in the oil is a good sign, but that is not to say the gasket hasn't gone and it wouldn't mayo up the next time you rode it.
I reckon the fans might be working you just may not have noticed. The fan on my 675 rarely comes on but when it does once over 10mph or maybe even less I can't hear it. It also doesn't tend to come on in traffic unless we're having one of the hottest days of the year and i'm in the city - and typically it seems to come on after i've got moving again, and i'm working it a bit harder, than at idle.
CaptainSlow said:
You won't go to the effort of spending five minutes checking fuses? I suspect a bike of this age may not be for you.
Given that the arrangements have been made to have the bike collected, inspected and fixed FOC, I'm going to leave it as is for now. Of course, when the dealer comes to collect it we may well have a quick look through the fuses. But having ran so hot, I'd rather it were given a proper going over. EDIT: I had also read of the radiator cap being the fault that lets the hot coolant through to the header, causing boil over. So that'll need addressing. But I wouldn't have thought that alone would have been the cause of the over-heating.
If I had bought it privately, I'd have started with fuses, checking the fan assembly, draining and flushing the coolant, replacing the thermostat, and I'd have taken it to Triumph for a compression test. However, I'm happy to leave it to the dealer, and we'll see where we go after that initial assessment. I know they say that old Triumphs can run a little hot. Maybe I'll eventually get a fan override switch fitted, or even use the tuning software to lower the fan engagement threshold (I've read of people doing this to good effect).
I had looked at older Fireblades as a potential replacement. I'm struggling to see one that looks in great shape, but I wouldn't rule one out. I really want the Triumph to work though, on account of it being a sports bike like no other. It's got that triple engine that I love, the looks, the feel of it, all resonate with me. The midrange power is just incredible. The top end, just seems ludicrous to me at the moment. I'm keeping everything crossed it can be easily fixed and returned to me.
The dealer has since been back on the phone to me. It appears a stone was stuck in the fan assembly, stopping it from rotating and the fuse had gone. This has been unpicked and it now seems to be working fine. They've advised me it'll be getting a proper shakedown over the weekend before arrangements are made to get it back to me. Indeed, I've urged them, and will do so again, to be completely sure it's right before bringing it back. I'll be giving it a proper road test then too, to make sure everything is as it should be. Hopefully, the end is in sight.
Since shelling out something like three weeks ago, I've ridden my new bike for about 100 miles.
Since shelling out something like three weeks ago, I've ridden my new bike for about 100 miles.
It's back, and fingers crossed, it seems to be fixed...
I had it out for a ride to work the other day and it seemed nice. It was very cool that morning (frost on my car!), and there was no stopping on the way to work, but it seemed in order. The ride home equally was without issue.
My brother commented on the low, wide position of the bars at the time. I can see what he means. I sat on a Thundercat the same day and was surprised at how tall and upright it felt (more sports tourer, I know, but it was Yamaha's sports bike of the time). The T595 draws you into a low, hunkered position where you're sitting on the tank, and I suppose that was always the intention given the low front screen.
I'm hoping that I'll get some more rides in soon, perhaps tomorrow and then use it for work over the weekend. The weather has been absolutely appalling these past couple of days, wet to the point of just spoiling the prospect of any enjoyment. Localised flooding has also played a part.
I had it out for a ride to work the other day and it seemed nice. It was very cool that morning (frost on my car!), and there was no stopping on the way to work, but it seemed in order. The ride home equally was without issue.
My brother commented on the low, wide position of the bars at the time. I can see what he means. I sat on a Thundercat the same day and was surprised at how tall and upright it felt (more sports tourer, I know, but it was Yamaha's sports bike of the time). The T595 draws you into a low, hunkered position where you're sitting on the tank, and I suppose that was always the intention given the low front screen.
I'm hoping that I'll get some more rides in soon, perhaps tomorrow and then use it for work over the weekend. The weather has been absolutely appalling these past couple of days, wet to the point of just spoiling the prospect of any enjoyment. Localised flooding has also played a part.
I managed to fit the carbon fibre 'race can' this afternoon. The weather was so nice I wish I'd had my kit handy for a quick ride. The job was more of a pain than I thought it would be as I only had a couple of vaguely relevant pictures available online to work from. I had hoped to find some good, high resolution pictures of bikes with the same exhaust fitted to work from but I couldn't so I just went step by step trying to work out which part went where. In the end it fit together nicely.
Starting it up for a listen was where the fun really started because the noise is unreal! Much throatier and with a load more midrange and burble at idle. The standard silencer is much heavier and evidently had a lot more packing as it really kills the noise. The increase in volume is pretty significant too.
Starting it up for a listen was where the fun really started because the noise is unreal! Much throatier and with a load more midrange and burble at idle. The standard silencer is much heavier and evidently had a lot more packing as it really kills the noise. The increase in volume is pretty significant too.
A picture from yesterday's trip out. This was just on the return. It's the first time it's had a proper run out since it was serviced lasy year. I spent most of last year regretably too tired or too busy to get my arse on the bike, but fearing it wouldn't take a second lazy year I'm determined to ride more and enjoy more this year.
It started at the drop of a hat (I really wouldn't be without a CTEK now). Still with a full tank of fuel from last year, off we went. Within minutes it all felt as I remembered. Pretty comfortable once I'd jammed my long legs up the pegs, and pretty bloody fast when I wanted it to be.
The sound is truly immense. I say this often about these old triples, but wow, what a sensational noise that Triumph race can makes. As the service manager said when he handed the bike back last year "Your MOT is all sorted Mr. Chaucer. No issues, though the tester has added an advisory for the loud exhaust". I said "it's not too loud then?". He tilted his head slightyly and said "no sir, but it's about as loud as you'd want for a road bike...". Top lad, looked after me well.
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