intermediate trackdayer vs jenny tinmouth...
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At Donington
MotoGP 2007 Danny Pedrosa 1:27:676
WSB 2015 Tom Sykes 1:27:071
BSB 2015 pole Ryuichi Kiyonari 1:29:455
ThunderSport - can't find it
No Limits 1000cc Cup best lap 1:38:4
Trackday fast group anything sub 1:50
Inters anything sub 2:20ish
Rough times above. MotoGP is distorted as it took 7 years for WSB to catch up amd overtake that record.
MotoGP 2007 Danny Pedrosa 1:27:676
WSB 2015 Tom Sykes 1:27:071
BSB 2015 pole Ryuichi Kiyonari 1:29:455
ThunderSport - can't find it
No Limits 1000cc Cup best lap 1:38:4
Trackday fast group anything sub 1:50
Inters anything sub 2:20ish
Rough times above. MotoGP is distorted as it took 7 years for WSB to catch up amd overtake that record.
gwm said:
Silverstone Arena circuit, from my quick googling:
F1 - 1'30.874 (Fernando Alonso, 2010)
MotoGP - 2’01.906 (Marquez, qualifying 2014)
WSBK - 2m 04.041 (John Hopkins, Samsung Crescent Suzuki GSX-R1000 2011)
BSB - 2:06.253 (Josh Brookes - Suzuki 2011)
Trackdayer time 2:20 ish.
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Really ... 2.20 , where did you arrive at that time ?F1 - 1'30.874 (Fernando Alonso, 2010)
MotoGP - 2’01.906 (Marquez, qualifying 2014)
WSBK - 2m 04.041 (John Hopkins, Samsung Crescent Suzuki GSX-R1000 2011)
BSB - 2:06.253 (Josh Brookes - Suzuki 2011)
Trackdayer time 2:20 ish.
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Show me that trackdayrider .... ( McKean you can ps off - you don't count ...)!
hebegb said:
gwm said:
Silverstone Arena circuit, from my quick googling:
F1 - 1'30.874 (Fernando Alonso, 2010)
MotoGP - 2’01.906 (Marquez, qualifying 2014)
WSBK - 2m 04.041 (John Hopkins, Samsung Crescent Suzuki GSX-R1000 2011)
BSB - 2:06.253 (Josh Brookes - Suzuki 2011)
Trackdayer time 2:20 ish.
T
Really ... 2.20 , where did you arrive at that time ?F1 - 1'30.874 (Fernando Alonso, 2010)
MotoGP - 2’01.906 (Marquez, qualifying 2014)
WSBK - 2m 04.041 (John Hopkins, Samsung Crescent Suzuki GSX-R1000 2011)
BSB - 2:06.253 (Josh Brookes - Suzuki 2011)
Trackdayer time 2:20 ish.
T
Show me that trackdayrider .... ( McKean you can ps off - you don't count ...)!
hebegb said:
Really ... 2.20 , where did you arrive at that time ?
Show me that trackdayrider .... ( McKean you can ps off - you don't count ...)!
A Niall Mackenzie quote from his track guide on Visordown:Show me that trackdayrider .... ( McKean you can ps off - you don't count ...)!
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-track-guides/m...
gwm said:
hebegb said:
Really ... 2.20 , where did you arrive at that time ?
Show me that trackdayrider .... ( McKean you can ps off - you don't count ...)!
A Niall Mackenzie quote from his track guide on Visordown:Show me that trackdayrider .... ( McKean you can ps off - you don't count ...)!
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-track-guides/m...
Niall Mackenzie said:
......a god lap time on a trackday.......
That means top end of fast group doing a good lap, not an Inters ridergwm said:
Silverstone Arena circuit, from my quick googling:
F1 - 1'30.874 (Fernando Alonso, 2010)
MotoGP - 2’01.906 (Marquez, qualifying 2014)
WSBK - 2m 04.041 (John Hopkins, Samsung Crescent Suzuki GSX-R1000 2011)
BSB - 2:06.253 (Josh Brookes - Suzuki 2011)
Trackdayer time 2:20 ish.
Not all are directly comparable. Some run a different exit to Chapel curve which has an effect on speed down the Hangar straight. F1 - 1'30.874 (Fernando Alonso, 2010)
MotoGP - 2’01.906 (Marquez, qualifying 2014)
WSBK - 2m 04.041 (John Hopkins, Samsung Crescent Suzuki GSX-R1000 2011)
BSB - 2:06.253 (Josh Brookes - Suzuki 2011)
Trackdayer time 2:20 ish.
I know when I did a trackday there awhile back I was "shortcutting" the corner compared to the WSBK boys.
LoonR1 said:
That means top end of fast group doing a good lap, not an Inters rider
I never said anything about an Inters rider, though appreciate that's the spirit of the thread. Was a quick google and for same layout, not for stringent peer review. Without a proper controlled test, these comparisons will always be rough.
gwm said:
I never said anything about an Inters rider, though appreciate that's the spirit of the thread. Was a quick google and for same layout, not for stringent peer review.
Without a proper controlled test, these comparisons will always be rough.
This needs to be an Inters rider, as that's what the original article was about. It's also a fairly even playing field. A fast group often has BSB or high club level racers in there, so times can be distorted. Without a proper controlled test, these comparisons will always be rough.
There is no comparison. I'm not slow, but I'm far from mega quick. I'll dig out a video of me in an I gets day when I booked the wrong group. I'm doing laps 10seconds slower than I would in Fast due to the traffic.
This is a pretty standard Inters day IME
http://youtu.be/NpnbGL473vQ
LoonR1 said:
This needs to be an Inters rider, as that's what the original article was about. It's also a fairly even playing field. A fast group often has BSB or high club level racers in there, so times can be distorted.
There is no comparison. I'm not slow, but I'm far from mega quick. I'll dig out a video of me in an I gets day when I booked the wrong group. I'm doing laps 10seconds slower than I would in Fast due to the traffic.
This is a pretty standard Inters day IME
http://youtu.be/NpnbGL473vQ
That was an entertaining lap to watch, makes it look very busy! Love how some guys are hanging off their bikes while you coast past them. There is no comparison. I'm not slow, but I'm far from mega quick. I'll dig out a video of me in an I gets day when I booked the wrong group. I'm doing laps 10seconds slower than I would in Fast due to the traffic.
This is a pretty standard Inters day IME
http://youtu.be/NpnbGL473vQ
So to sum up we're saying what here?
In my eyes her and Mitzy are tops!
There's not enough female riders IMO and if she encourages just a hadlful of females to start riding or get into racing (as a spectator or rider) then that's to be applauded. Plus it'll stop the whining when we bugger off for an afternoon on the bike.
I don't get the negativity man.
There's not enough female riders IMO and if she encourages just a hadlful of females to start riding or get into racing (as a spectator or rider) then that's to be applauded. Plus it'll stop the whining when we bugger off for an afternoon on the bike.
I don't get the negativity man.
gareth_r said:
And let's not forget that she's done a 119.9 TT lap. In my book, that alone puts her beyond the criticism of mere mortals.
exactly my thoughts, I dont care how fast she is at that short circuit stuff ...unfortunately thats where a lot of the money is I guessWe certainly need more women to watch in tight leather and shes doing a great job getting at marketing thats for sure, it seems everyone has an opinion on her these days
iambeowulf said:
There's not enough female riders IMO and if she encourages just a hadlful of females to start riding or get into racing (as a spectator or rider) then that's to be applauded.
3 ladies teams at Silverstone this weekend for the No Limits Endurance race http://www.silverstone.co.uk/events/no-limits/
My other half is competing on her Fireblade in one of the teams.
scorcher said:
iambeowulf said:
There's not enough female riders IMO and if she encourages just a hadlful of females to start riding or get into racing (as a spectator or rider) then that's to be applauded.
3 ladies teams at Silverstone this weekend for the No Limits Endurance race http://www.silverstone.co.uk/events/no-limits/
My other half is competing on her Fireblade in one of the teams.
I'd go but I'm in another continent.
In answer to the missing lap record from Donington remark:-
Thundersport GP1 Lap record at Donington Park is 1.32.945 by John Ingram (pole record is 1.31.876 but obviously doesn't count as a record).
Interestingly, the race he set that lap record in, Jenny Tinmouth finished 4th on her Privateer spec BSB Superbike. My own opinion (which obviously won't count for much amongst the bar stool racers) is that Jenny is a very talented racer.
We have known Jenny since the days back when we created the MRO Powerbike Tour in 2000. She rode 125GP bikes back then in the same field as Steve Patrickson, Chris Martin, Christian Elkin, the Lowes twins, Chaz Davies and Casey Stoner. She never pulled the - I'm only a girl in a mans world - card and just wanted to race on equal terms.
Yes, Honda probably saw the marketing potential of having a woman on a factory bike, but I bet it wasn't Jenny that approached them from that angle. Yes, she is lucky to have the factory ride, but why are people so jealous about it?
She would also hand any of the riders who regularly post on here their backside on a plate on the same machinery at any track,including those that have posted unkind and disparaging remarks about her.
Thundersport GP1 Lap record at Donington Park is 1.32.945 by John Ingram (pole record is 1.31.876 but obviously doesn't count as a record).
Interestingly, the race he set that lap record in, Jenny Tinmouth finished 4th on her Privateer spec BSB Superbike. My own opinion (which obviously won't count for much amongst the bar stool racers) is that Jenny is a very talented racer.
We have known Jenny since the days back when we created the MRO Powerbike Tour in 2000. She rode 125GP bikes back then in the same field as Steve Patrickson, Chris Martin, Christian Elkin, the Lowes twins, Chaz Davies and Casey Stoner. She never pulled the - I'm only a girl in a mans world - card and just wanted to race on equal terms.
Yes, Honda probably saw the marketing potential of having a woman on a factory bike, but I bet it wasn't Jenny that approached them from that angle. Yes, she is lucky to have the factory ride, but why are people so jealous about it?
She would also hand any of the riders who regularly post on here their backside on a plate on the same machinery at any track,including those that have posted unkind and disparaging remarks about her.
Dave Stewart said:
In answer to the missing lap record from Donington remark:-
Thundersport GP1 Lap record at Donington Park is 1.32.945 by John Ingram (pole record is 1.31.876 but obviously doesn't count as a record).
Interestingly, the race he set that lap record in, Jenny Tinmouth finished 4th on her Privateer spec BSB Superbike. My own opinion (which obviously won't count for much amongst the bar stool racers) is that Jenny is a very talented racer.
We have known Jenny since the days back when we created the MRO Powerbike Tour in 2000. She rode 125GP bikes back then in the same field as Steve Patrickson, Chris Martin, Christian Elkin, the Lowes twins, Chaz Davies and Casey Stoner. She never pulled the - I'm only a girl in a mans world - card and just wanted to race on equal terms.
Yes, Honda probably saw the marketing potential of having a woman on a factory bike, but I bet it wasn't Jenny that approached them from that angle. Yes, she is lucky to have the factory ride, but why are people so jealous about it?
She would also hand any of the riders who regularly post on here their backside on a plate on the same machinery at any track,including those that have posted unkind and disparaging remarks about her.
100% this. Thundersport GP1 Lap record at Donington Park is 1.32.945 by John Ingram (pole record is 1.31.876 but obviously doesn't count as a record).
Interestingly, the race he set that lap record in, Jenny Tinmouth finished 4th on her Privateer spec BSB Superbike. My own opinion (which obviously won't count for much amongst the bar stool racers) is that Jenny is a very talented racer.
We have known Jenny since the days back when we created the MRO Powerbike Tour in 2000. She rode 125GP bikes back then in the same field as Steve Patrickson, Chris Martin, Christian Elkin, the Lowes twins, Chaz Davies and Casey Stoner. She never pulled the - I'm only a girl in a mans world - card and just wanted to race on equal terms.
Yes, Honda probably saw the marketing potential of having a woman on a factory bike, but I bet it wasn't Jenny that approached them from that angle. Yes, she is lucky to have the factory ride, but why are people so jealous about it?
She would also hand any of the riders who regularly post on here their backside on a plate on the same machinery at any track,including those that have posted unkind and disparaging remarks about her.
LoonR1 said:
The point of the article is to show all the armchair riders just how much harder a backmarker in BSB is riding compared to them.
I could not imagine being one of the people who think being at the back of BSB = "any intermediate TD rider could do it" Edited by LoonR1 on Tuesday 7th July 14:59
AS i'm not that stupid
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