Trackdays and the lost art of having fun
Discussion
LoonR1 said:
What I'd like is to see people who turn up smiling, having a laugh about this overtake, or that overtake and their last session, rather than stressing about whether they are ready for the next group etc. I'm just thankful that nobody has been injured too badly this year from on here. Two of my mates Paul and Mike can't ever ride again after big crashes this year and if the crashes continue on here, then someone else could end up in that position and that isn't what this is supposed to be about.
Didn't I more or less say this too you at Oulton last month.Biker's Nemesis said:
LoonR1 said:
What I'd like is to see people who turn up smiling, having a laugh about this overtake, or that overtake and their last session, rather than stressing about whether they are ready for the next group etc. I'm just thankful that nobody has been injured too badly this year from on here. Two of my mates Paul and Mike can't ever ride again after big crashes this year and if the crashes continue on here, then someone else could end up in that position and that isn't what this is supposed to be about.
Didn't I more or less say this too you at Oulton last month.LoonR1 said:
spareparts said:
Plenty of riders are having big fun - just not here on BB 
There's only a very small handful of riders on BB - and they aren't indicative of the average rider out there. But why get hung up about TD groups? If you are, then you are clearly as sensitive to it as those who talk about it. Personally, I genuinely CBA about who rides in what group. Plenty of fast group warriors who struggle on real roads.
I'm not hung up on groups and I'm back having fun, having sorted my issues out. I'm talking about the wider BB population. There's only a very small handful of riders on BB - and they aren't indicative of the average rider out there. But why get hung up about TD groups? If you are, then you are clearly as sensitive to it as those who talk about it. Personally, I genuinely CBA about who rides in what group. Plenty of fast group warriors who struggle on real roads.Think you're misunderstanding this.
I jumped to inters because people recommended it as being a better/safer group due to the higher quality of riding.
I can't recall seeing anyone daring people to better their times or get in the fast group before them, I could be wrong though and have just missed it.
I know I personally am not fussed which group I go out in, I am back out in novice for Pembrey and it doesn't bother me one bit.
One of my favourite days even though it pissed down in the afternoon was when I was with you and your mate (he had a mare and really wasn't happy!).
spareparts said:
Lap times are not critical as there is no silverware (other than gold, silver, bronze cock awards), but they are a great reflection of a rider's ability to improve their skill and technique. Why get training? To ride smoother, better, safer, more in control... Faster! Anyone who says they're just lapping a race track for pure fun without any competitiveness or desire to go a bit quicker next lap has the biggest Liar's Cock award!! You gonna sit behind the rider in front for lap after lap or are you going to look to pass them? Grow a pair and admit it. You want to be in the fast fast group leading from the front elbow down and passing your mate in the braking zone hitting that apex...
It's all fun until it goes horribly wrong and the big fat book of racing excuses comes out. Stuffing it up the inside of your mate IS fun. Bragging about it in the pits part of the camaraderie. Laugh it all off at the after track over a pint. Those who get all serious have found their own limits and are probably annoyed they ain't getting faster, or they've lost the bottle. Throw in the keys man. Hang up the leathers.
If you want to go faster, why take instruction from a bunch of amateur wannabe cock waving Mavericks here on PH? Go get instruction from CSS, Ron Haslam, or some similar training school.
You been on the sauce spare partsIt's all fun until it goes horribly wrong and the big fat book of racing excuses comes out. Stuffing it up the inside of your mate IS fun. Bragging about it in the pits part of the camaraderie. Laugh it all off at the after track over a pint. Those who get all serious have found their own limits and are probably annoyed they ain't getting faster, or they've lost the bottle. Throw in the keys man. Hang up the leathers.
If you want to go faster, why take instruction from a bunch of amateur wannabe cock waving Mavericks here on PH? Go get instruction from CSS, Ron Haslam, or some similar training school.
Or had too much sun
Lol
curlie467 said:
It's just one or two though in reality, surely.
I jumped to inters because people recommended it as being a better/safer group due to the higher quality of riding.
I can't recall seeing anyone daring people to better their times or get in the fast group before them, I could be wrong though and have just missed it.
I know I personally am not fussed which group I go out in, I am back out in novice for Pembrey and it doesn't bother me one bit.
One of my favourite days even though it pissed down in the afternoon was when I was with you and your mate (he had a mare and really wasn't happy!).
It's not a dig at you at all. I'm passing comments on my observations and not about any one person. I jumped to inters because people recommended it as being a better/safer group due to the higher quality of riding.
I can't recall seeing anyone daring people to better their times or get in the fast group before them, I could be wrong though and have just missed it.
I know I personally am not fussed which group I go out in, I am back out in novice for Pembrey and it doesn't bother me one bit.
One of my favourite days even though it pissed down in the afternoon was when I was with you and your mate (he had a mare and really wasn't happy!).
mitzy said:
You been on the sauce spare parts
Or had too much sun
Lol
Guilty as charged, both I think! Or had too much sun
Lol
This thread is just utter pants. Get out there FFS and go ride yer bikes! Weather's been ace this year! So much self posturing and worrying about what handbag to wear in which TD group. Geez.
I'm with curlie on this. Having been to a few PH trackdays this year at no point has half the stories people have made up actually happened. The fact that people who weren't actually even there are telling stories as if they were certainly isn't helping.
To clear it up a bit, everyone at the trackdays I've been on has been happy having a load of banter throughout the day as well as good riding. None of the newcomers myself included have come back into the pits stating they set a new lap record or come up with excuses about why they didn't set the lap record.
Everyone knows getting your knee down is the best part of track days anyway.
To clear it up a bit, everyone at the trackdays I've been on has been happy having a load of banter throughout the day as well as good riding. None of the newcomers myself included have come back into the pits stating they set a new lap record or come up with excuses about why they didn't set the lap record.
Everyone knows getting your knee down is the best part of track days anyway.
SAS Tom said:
To clear it up a bit, everyone at the trackdays I've been on has been happy having a load of banter throughout the day as well as good riding. None of the newcomers myself included have come back into the pits stating they set a new lap record or come up with excuses about why they didn't set the lap record.
You've not met MTB yet then...
|http://thumbsnap.com/lCjcNNNp[/url.hebegb said:
Fleegle said:
gwm said:
True, Snet was top quality bants
I was worried for Yazza though
Anyway, I do agree with a lot of loons sentiments.
For me, having a lap timer for personal use is the way to see improvement and for many people improvement and progress = enjoyment and maintained interest. I'd love to be one of those people that could just plod around and love it but I'd rather not do something I'm s
t at. Probably why my interest has fluctuated.What I don't understand is people desperate to post lap times which are dodgy at best, from this blade of grass to this one, or using mobile phone GPS that couldn't even get you within 100m from your front door. Majority of the fast lads who use the GPS timers you wouldn't even know it because it's for their own use and development and many don't even look at it on the day.
There is always going to be an element of competition with track days due to the nature of the hobby, but for me that competition is with myself not other people so posting times etc. never really comes into it.
Always interested to hear mckeans times though!
Edited by Yazza54 on Thursday 9th July 09:14
My crash must have spurred this on. I crashed in the soaking rain, because I fked up. I learned from it. No lap times were chased, I never even had my camera on. 100 % rider error. They called that day early after my crash because so many were going down, there was 14 crashes in the wet in the morning yesterday. The fuel on circuit didn't help.
I time myself, but don’t go out there on a qualifying lap. Yesterday I was a few seconds off my best but I hit traffic every lap, so no point chasing times.
Its handy for me learning a new circuit and it’s a bit of fun, but that’s where it ends.
ked up. I learned from it. No lap times were chased, I never even had my camera on. 100 % rider error. They called that day early after my crash because so many were going down, there was 14 crashes in the wet in the morning yesterday. The fuel on circuit didn't help. I time myself, but don’t go out there on a qualifying lap. Yesterday I was a few seconds off my best but I hit traffic every lap, so no point chasing times.
Its handy for me learning a new circuit and it’s a bit of fun, but that’s where it ends.
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