Tyre sliding around under straight line acceleration.

Tyre sliding around under straight line acceleration.

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roboR

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199 posts

107 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Really? You've been to the edge a few times, yet ride like a granny and there are chicken strips and the bike spins when bolt upright in a straight line.

Never heard of Jimmy Hill, and don't understand the meme/pic?

Either way my first few posts literally explained that I'm super new to this, not a good rider and I'm not riding it hard at all. Which is exactly why I wanted to know what was causing it to spin out. My very first and second post say it's likely to be me being crap but could it be something else?

Also if you read all my posts you'd see that I explain the timeline between getting more confidence to lean more (this just means improving, getting lower etc, not knee down, edge of tyre action) and then getting my confidence knocked when the slipping started (not driving around at 10kph, but just being more nervous and not overtaking/filtering as I was worried it might spin). Not sure why you're thinking I'm talking about extremes, I'm just new to biking and wanted to know what was happening.




Edited by roboR on Thursday 30th July 10:27

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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roboR said:
Never heard of Jimmy Hill, and don't understand the meme/pic?

Either way my first few posts literally explained that I'm super new to this, not a good rider and I'm not riding it hard at all. Which is exactly why I wanted to know what was causing it to spin out. My very first and second post say it's likely to be me being crap but could it be something else?

Also if you read all my posts you'd see the timeline between getting more confidence to lean more (again not knee down, edge of tyre action) and then getting my confidence knocked when the slipping started.
I hope you're Spanish and not British. Jimmy Hill is a British football institution. He's also got the biggest chin ever seen, as well as spouting some utter crap as a footballer, commentator and host
of Match of the Day way back when.

If you're as crap as you say them please don't claim to ride to within a few mm of the edge of your tyre it won't be happening, or if it is on slippy Spanish roads, then I'd expect to see a thread fairly soon about repairing a damaged bike.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Custard

roboR

Original Poster:

199 posts

107 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
I hope you're Spanish and not British. Jimmy Hill is a British football institution. He's also got the biggest chin ever seen, as well as spouting some utter crap as a footballer, commentator and host
of Match of the Day way back when.

If you're as crap as you say them please don't claim to ride to within a few mm of the edge of your tyre it won't be happening, or if it is on slippy Spanish roads, then I'd expect to see a thread fairly soon about repairing a damaged bike.
I'm British, but don't watch or follow football whatsoever.

As for the remainder is it really that hard to understand that I was improving and getting better and then freaked myself out. I might be slightly self deprecating but you seem to be taking everything so literally as if I'm claiming I was going knee down everywhere and now drive at 10kph. I simply repeated what the guy from the garage said. For all I know he could have been humoring me. My chicken strips are pretty big as I said earlier, and I'm not at all embarrassed about them or trying to claim I'm anything I'm not. I'd rather be a safe driver than a fast one at the moment (which is why I posted this question in the first place).

Also everything you've asked me about literally has zero relevance to the point of the thread, which was why my rear tyre was slipping out on the straights...

Edited by roboR on Thursday 30th July 10:51

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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roboR said:
I'm British, but don't watch or follow football whatsoever.

As for the remainder is it really that hard to understand that I was improving and getting better and then freaked myself out. I might be slightly self deprecating but you seem to be taking everything so literally as if I'm claiming I was going knee down everywhere and now drive at 10kph. I simply repeated what the guy from the garage said. For all I know he could have been humoring me. My chicken strips are pretty big as I said earlier, and I'm not at all embarrassed about them or trying to claim I'm anything I'm not. I'd rather be a safe driver than a fast one at the moment (which is why I posted this question in the first place).

Also everything you've asked me about literally has zero relevance to the point of the thread, which was why my rear tyre was slipping out on the straights...

Edited by roboR on Thursday 30th July 10:51
I'm going to jump on the bandwagon.

50kph speed limits, you drive like a granny but can get to the edge a few times and yet you can spin the wheels.

I think it's in your head mate.

roboR

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Thursday 30th July 2015
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sc0tt said:
I'm going to jump on the bandwagon.

50kph speed limits, you drive like a granny but can get to the edge a few times and yet you can spin the wheels.

I think it's in your head mate.
LOL, well...

Two different countries (Spain with nice winding roads and higher speed limits, Gibraltar with 50kph, blind corners and slow driving).

Spinning wheels was happening in a straight line. Never said I get all the way to the edge, nor does it have any relevance to the issue I first posted.

Ahhhh this thread has gone off on a tangent and I'm just repeating myself, I should probably give up on it and just thank those that actually tried to help a noob out rather than insult me based on the idea that I'm trying to show off about having chicken strips or something? biggrin


Edited by roboR on Thursday 30th July 11:37

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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roboR said:
sc0tt said:
I'm going to jump on the bandwagon.

50kph speed limits, you drive like a granny but can get to the edge a few times and yet you can spin the wheels.

I think it's in your head mate.
LOL, well...

Two different countries (Spain with nice winding roads and higher speed limits, Gibraltar with 50kph, blind corners and slow driving).

Spinning wheels was happening in a straight line. Never said I get all the way to the edge, nor does it have any relevance to the issue I first posted.

Ahhhh this thread has gone off on a tangent and I'm just repeating myself, I should probably give up on it and just thank those that actually tried to help a noob out rather than insult me based on the idea that I'm trying to show off about having chicken strips or something? biggrin


Edited by roboR on Thursday 30th July 11:37
I'm not insulting you, I just don't believe you have had the wheel spinning.

The only two times I have, the bike is usually banging on the limiter before I had even realised.

moanthebairns

17,939 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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roboR said:
LoonR1 said:
I hope you're Spanish and not British. Jimmy Hill is a British football institution. He's also got the biggest chin ever seen, as well as spouting some utter crap as a footballer, commentator and host
of Match of the Day way back when.

If you're as crap as you say them please don't claim to ride to within a few mm of the edge of your tyre it won't be happening, or if it is on slippy Spanish roads, then I'd expect to see a thread fairly soon about repairing a damaged bike.
I'm British, but don't watch or follow football whatsoever.

As for the remainder is it really that hard to understand that I was improving and getting better and then freaked myself out. I might be slightly self deprecating but you seem to be taking everything so literally as if I'm claiming I was going knee down everywhere and now drive at 10kph. I simply repeated what the guy from the garage said. For all I know he could have been humoring me. My chicken strips are pretty big as I said earlier, and I'm not at all embarrassed about them or trying to claim I'm anything I'm not. I'd rather be a safe driver than a fast one at the moment (which is why I posted this question in the first place).

Also everything you've asked me about literally has zero relevance to the point of the thread, which was why my rear tyre was slipping out on the straights...

Edited by roboR on Thursday 30th July 10:51
How can you be a grown man and not have at least followed or played football some point in your life. Fair enough watching, but to have not played it and enjoyed it as a child is just fking weird.

Bikers wear this like a badge of honour, I have came to the conclusion.

a) they were to st to play as a child and left out
b) have no friends
c) both of the above.


CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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It was the mechanic that mentioned the OP got out to the edge, probably only saying out of politeness.

Have we had a "show us your chicken strips" thread?

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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roboR said:
Scott, it was definitely spinning, as in you could feel it going from side to side not just spinning underneath. And I wasn't redlining it, so I guess combination of tyre pressure, the floor surface and me being an noob caused it (the latter the biggest part probably).

MTB, yeah I played it a few times when I was around 6 or so. Football in Gibraltar is a really big thing, so my mum wanted me in one of the local kids teams (there are loads of them) but I really hated it. I started skateboarding and then later on snowboarding instead. I always preferred sports that you do on your own, not team sports. I was forced to do tennis for a while (as I wouldn't play football) and that was better as I was on my own at least, but still didn't enjoy it that much. I did however have a great childhood hiking and other outdoors stuff (some beautiful mountains around Spain) and still do that now.

And Purity14 yup... I've noticed that every thread on BB tends to end up with some weird thoughts, but I don't mind. I got the answers I needed and most people here were nice and answered my question. As for pics of chicken strips, here you go wink

CBR600?

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I think the picture makes this far clearer. Those are free range chicken which are used to moving around a lot more. Change your tyres to ones with battery chicken for far more traction. Corn fed are best.


y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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"unfollowing" this is a work of fiction

roboR

Original Poster:

199 posts

107 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Haha that is of course not a pic of my bike, I'm not going to go out of my way to get a pic of chicken strips and then try and drive dangerously to get a video of my tyre spinning. My chicken strips are smaller than that but I wouldn't really say by a lot.

Anyways captainslow is probably right, the mechanic was likely just humoring me. The rest of the thread however is not fiction, the tyre spinning out did happen. As a load of other posters have said in Europe they've seen similar I wouldn't have said it's particularly far fetched. It probably was a stty road and I just didn't realise.

Edited by roboR on Thursday 30th July 12:54

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Very easy to get some wheel spin at low speeds in the dry on some of the slippery, shiny, continental roads (same in the middle east and Oz, I've found). You need to be being pretty ham-fisted with the throttle though.

All it would take is for the OP to have experienced that, with some mediocre cornering ability on some grippier roads to have the breadth of different experiences he's mentioned here. No need for a witch hunt, its not like there would be any benefit in making it up.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Jazoli said:
When I lived in Spain I could get my Fazer 600 spinning up quite easily on the commute to work, my Exup was even worse, and could be a liability on shiny polished roads, its really not hard to do, the local kids used to drift their scooters everywhere with about 5bhp, the road surfaces can be that slippery, especially in towns and cities, its less of an issue on open roads.
It just surprises me that its easier to do in warm with sticky tyres than the cold and wet.

Maybe this why the Spaniards are good at MotoGP.

Reardy Mister

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222 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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OP, is this you?


LoonR1

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177 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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y2blade said:
"unfollowing" this is a work of fiction
100% this.

roboR

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Thursday 30th July 2015
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LoonR1 said:
100% this.
Since you never once replied to my question (even a 'you're ham fisted') and instead decided to not believe the situation could possibly have happened (why would I make up that I'm stty at driving a bike? Not sure what street cred that gets me) then thanks for leaving.

sc0tt

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201 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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roboR said:
Not flat out acceleration, just anything a bit brisk.
Pitchforks

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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roboR said:
LoonR1 said:
100% this.
Since you never once replied to my question (even a 'you're ham fisted') and instead decided to not believe the situation could possibly have happened (why would I make up that I'm stty at driving a bike? Not sure what street cred that gets me) then thanks for leaving.
I was agreeing with someone else whose only other post was "custard", yet you quote my response and not his. Also you referenced "being insulted by Loon so I guess that makes me a member". Very Insightful for someone so new.

Own up. You're either a WUM, or a kid on school holidays. Either way your story is garbage and who the fk drives or rides round Gibraltar anyway? It's about 3 miles long and most of that is a big fking hill with no roads at one end and a massive runway at the other.


Edited by LoonR1 on Thursday 30th July 14:05