BMW GS's

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clen666

925 posts

122 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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fergus said:
Talking of routes to the South of France. Does anyone have any recommendations for a 2 day ride from Calais, probably stopping around Dijon for a night?

.... and also for the return leg.

Destination Bol.
Depends what bike you're riding....

fergus

6,430 posts

275 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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clen666 said:
Depends what bike you're riding....
2005 GS, but no hard luggage..... Joking aside, it gets ridden like a sportsbike, so not looking for "picturesque" roads. Any roads recommended for a sportsbike would be great.

Davel

8,982 posts

258 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Ah but the optional extras for a GS are very good!



Not mine, I hasten to add!

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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fergus said:
clen666 said:
Depends what bike you're riding....
2005 GS, but no hard luggage..... Joking aside, it gets ridden like a sportsbike, so not looking for "picturesque" roads. Any roads recommended for a sportsbike would be great.
Vosage mountains followed Route Napoleon.

No that I've any idea where Bol is.

fergus

6,430 posts

275 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Hooli said:
fergus said:
clen666 said:
Depends what bike you're riding....
2005 GS, but no hard luggage..... Joking aside, it gets ridden like a sportsbike, so not looking for "picturesque" roads. Any roads recommended for a sportsbike would be great.
Vosage mountains followed Route Napoleon.

No that I've any idea where Bol is.
Ta. Bol D'Or; the 24hr race at Paul Ricard circuit, inland from Toulon (about 25km from Marseille)

Any tips for the bit down to Dijon, or alternatives? I've heard very mixed review of RN85 (Route Napolean). Have you ridden it? Feedback? thks

2OOM

374 posts

284 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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fergus said:
Ta. Bol D'Or; the 24hr race at Paul Ricard circuit, inland from Toulon (about 25km from Marseille)

Any tips for the bit down to Dijon, or alternatives? I've heard very mixed review of RN85 (Route Napolean). Have you ridden it? Feedback? thks
From Troyes take the D671/D971 used to be N71 but was down graded its the same road.. it runs through Bar-Sur-Seine , Châtillon-sur-Seine , It's great fun .. The N85 is a great road, you can cut across from castellane towards the Gorge du verdun if you don't want to go into Nice ..

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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fergus said:
Hooli said:
fergus said:
clen666 said:
Depends what bike you're riding....
2005 GS, but no hard luggage..... Joking aside, it gets ridden like a sportsbike, so not looking for "picturesque" roads. Any roads recommended for a sportsbike would be great.
Vosage mountains followed Route Napoleon.

No that I've any idea where Bol is.
Ta. Bol D'Or; the 24hr race at Paul Ricard circuit, inland from Toulon (about 25km from Marseille)

Any tips for the bit down to Dijon, or alternatives? I've heard very mixed review of RN85 (Route Napolean). Have you ridden it? Feedback? thks
Ahh, my list is on the wrong side of france then.

I have ridden Route Napoleon, it's a nice day of sweeping bends on decent tarmac. I prefer stuff a bit more technical like Alpine passes for maximum fun, but it's a good ride all the same.

I know the roads I've ridden between Calais & Dijon have all been boring. The Vosages are too far east & you can drop through Belgium etc to get there, at least the Ardenne gives you trees to look at.

After Dijon, if you don't fancy RN85, you could aim for that huge bridge as the gorges around there are meant to be great (I've not ridden them but know people who have) as it's roughly on the right line.

gwm

2,390 posts

144 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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They are back to being tts. A1 last night, every truck and car driver can use dipped headlights. But oh no, full beam AND LED spot lights on at all times from a plodding GS rider.

wkers

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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I saw what must be a GS tt in training today.

Polite vest, wobbling about & getting in the way & the crowning glory of TWO gropros - one facing forward & one rearward stuck on the tt's lid.

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

222 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Silver993tt said:
spareparts said:
J B L said:
sc0tt said:
What happens if I dress up like charlie and stick a top box on my R1

Thread implosion?
That's what I'll be doing soon. Textiles, Sportsbike, heated grips, Renntec rack and top case. I might even consider handlebar muffs if it gets chilly.
Eventually you'll realise that that combo is such a compromise where nothing is done particularly well. You will then admit defeat and pick a bike like a GS where it does everything quite well. smile
or maybe they'll stick to what you often see coming off the Eurotunnel at Calais, 'sports' bikes with an array of ill-fitting soft bags, plastic bags etc drooping and bungeed/cargo netted hanging lop-sided 'ready' for their big Euro tour. 100km away you'll see the same bikes huddled under the roof of a gas station at the first sign of rain hopping around trying to get into their balloon like cheap rain over suits covering up their already damp and wet 'racing' leathers. A perfect start and perfect preparation for their Euro tour hehe
Been there, done that. hehe

Except my luggage was tidy.

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

222 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Hooli said:
fergus said:
Hooli said:
fergus said:
clen666 said:
Depends what bike you're riding....
2005 GS, but no hard luggage..... Joking aside, it gets ridden like a sportsbike, so not looking for "picturesque" roads. Any roads recommended for a sportsbike would be great.
Vosage mountains followed Route Napoleon.

No that I've any idea where Bol is.
Ta. Bol D'Or; the 24hr race at Paul Ricard circuit, inland from Toulon (about 25km from Marseille)

Any tips for the bit down to Dijon, or alternatives? I've heard very mixed review of RN85 (Route Napolean). Have you ridden it? Feedback? thks
Ahh, my list is on the wrong side of france then.

I have ridden Route Napoleon, it's a nice day of sweeping bends on decent tarmac. I prefer stuff a bit more technical like Alpine passes for maximum fun, but it's a good ride all the same.

I know the roads I've ridden between Calais & Dijon have all been boring. The Vosages are too far east & you can drop through Belgium etc to get there, at least the Ardenne gives you trees to look at.

After Dijon, if you don't fancy RN85, you could aim for that huge bridge as the gorges around there are meant to be great (I've not ridden them but know people who have) as it's roughly on the right line.
Route Napolean - haven't done it since 2007 but assuming not much has changed, its awesome. In contrast to Hooli, 1st gear switch back after 1st gear switch backs are not my thing. N85 most certainly IS my thing. You will have as much fun on it on the GS and you would an R1, I reckon. The trouble is on those roads is that if you decide to show some pace, you will be concentrating so hard o the road, you'll miss the stunning scenery (very small walls separating you and the abyss).



Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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TBH I prefer riding the Alps for the scenery.

fergus

6,430 posts

275 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Reardy Mister said:
Route Napolean - haven't done it since 2007 but assuming not much has changed, its awesome. In contrast to Hooli, 1st gear switch back after 1st gear switch backs are not my thing. N85 most certainly IS my thing. You will have as much fun on it on the GS and you would an R1, I reckon. The trouble is on those roads is that if you decide to show some pace, you will be concentrating so hard o the road, you'll miss the stunning scenery (very small walls separating you and the abyss).
thumbup Cheers. Sounds like Corsica. That was scary enough hareing along in the hire car....

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

222 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Hooli said:
TBH I prefer riding the Alps for the scenery.
Not saying N85 is the last word in scenery. Just to watch the road, not the scenery.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Reardy Mister said:
Hooli said:
TBH I prefer riding the Alps for the scenery.
Not saying N85 is the last word in scenery. Just to watch the road, not the scenery.
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FartKong

897 posts

183 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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My Bonneville is quicker than my GSXR along any road.

not really

If I was going to commute by bike though I'd consider getting one of these. Had a look when I was last at the Triumph dealer and it didnt look too bad and was comfy as f***.
Anyone with experience of these compared to the GS?



Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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gwm said:
They are back to being tts. A1 last night, every truck and car driver can use dipped headlights. But oh no, full beam AND LED spot lights on at all times from a plodding GS rider.

wkers
So that's one bike with a main beam switched on when he shouldn't have. No other type of bike, especially a 'sports' bike has ever had main beam on blinding someone, of course it hasn't rolleyes

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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If I'm not riding it, I couldn't give a fk. Ride what you fking like, it doesn't matter to me.


The GS certainly attracts it's share of fanatics, though I'm sure it's fine at it's intended purpose. It's not for me, though evidenced by the portly sorts with full metal luggage I see commuting on them, they appeal to some.

Personally, I think they're a bit of a funny thing as they're obviously in vogue at the moment. Long Way Round showed them to be quite imperfect machines, given what a struggle the off road bits are, but then I'd struggle to name a bike that would perform very well off road, whilst being suitable for lugging all that ste around and doing thousands of miles on tarmac in the same trip. I can't see any particular reason for using an Adventure type bike over a proper Tourer. The GS is so much more 'Strasse' than 'Gelande' anyway...I'd quite happily ride a Pan Euro up the Yin Yang and I expect as a Continent Crusher, it'd be far better than the GS. The difference with Touring riders is that they don't seem to appear from the woodwork clutching a GoPro or telling is we're wrong for not riding the same bike as they do.

gwm

2,390 posts

144 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Silver993tt said:
o that's one bike with a main beam switched on when he shouldn't have. No other type of bike, especially a 'sports' bike has ever had main beam on blinding someone, of course it hasn't rolleyes
If it makes you feel better, I dislike any pack mentality type. This includes hipsters riding cafe racers with skinny jeans, sportsbike riders with matching leathers, adventure bikes with steel panniers and Paris-Dakar rally textiles to go to the shops, etc.

But it was the additional LEDs that really made this particular GS stand out.

moto_traxport

4,237 posts

221 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Flipping hell, this thread is still going!


Reardy Mister said:
Route Napolean - haven't done it since 2007 but assuming not much has changed, its awesome. In contrast to Hooli, 1st gear switch back after 1st gear switch backs are not my thing. N85 most certainly IS my thing. You will have as much fun on it on the GS and you would an R1, I reckon. The trouble is on those roads is that if you decide to show some pace, you will be concentrating so hard o the road, you'll miss the stunning scenery (very small walls separating you and the abyss).
Rode it last year and they've done some dodgy patching and les flics have been doing speed checks a bit more frequently (mainly at the weekend).

If you're going to the Bol then the road from Bandol up to the circuit is quite funky. They used to put hay bales on the corners to save the punters - not sure we live in such pragmatic times these days though.