My helmet in Morrisons caused uproar
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A supermarket or any other outlet such as a petrol station is a private business and private property. The owners are well within their rights to apply any code of conduct/code of dress regulations they see fit. If they don't want people wearing motorcycle helmets whilst on their property then that is their right to do so, not yours to object. If they want to make an exception for security personnel etc then again, they have a right to do so.
Silver993tt said:
A supermarket or any other outlet such as a petrol station is a private business and private property. The owners are well within their rights to apply any code of conduct/code of dress regulations they see fit. If they don't want people wearing motorcycle helmets whilst on their property then that is their right to do so, not yours to object. If they want to make an exception for security personnel etc then again, they have a right to do so.
I agree in principle, but they should make it known upon entry to the premises, as has been suggested prior on the thread. A simple sign would suffice. If they don't do this, I think it's a bit out of order to decide to implement and subsequently enforce a rule seemingly on a whim.
Super Slo Mo said:
agree in principle, but they should make it known upon entry to the premises, as has been suggested prior on the thread. A simple sign would suffice.
If they don't do this, I think it's a bit out of order to decide to implement and subsequently enforce a rule seemingly on a whim.
If you go into someone's house and you're asked to take off your shoes, you do so. You don't complain and say there's no sign indicating so.If they don't do this, I think it's a bit out of order to decide to implement and subsequently enforce a rule seemingly on a whim.
It's not as if others were wearing helmets inside the supermarket and they were not asked to remove them. In this case, he was asked to remove it and refused. Why not simply take it off when asked to do so?
Silver993tt said:
If you go into someone's house and you're asked to take off your shoes, you do so. You don't complain and say there's no sign indicating so.
OK, you go into somebody's house. You walk around all of their house in full view of them, wearing your shoes for a good 15 mins or so. After 15 mins walking around with your shoes on the whole time, it is time to leave and you get up and start to head to the door. As you are walking there, the householder stops you, tells you your shoes are not allowed and tries to prevent you from leaving until you take off your shoes.
Is this OK with you? I don't know if you have bothered to read the thread, but this is what happened here.
Silver993tt said:
If you go into someone's house and you're asked to take off your shoes, you do so. You don't complain and say there's no sign indicating so.
I don't think that's a fair analogy.Not that many analogies are any good anyway, but you'd soon complain if you walked into a supermarket and they asked you to remove your shoes
, which is about as relevant 
.If it was a full face helmet I'd see the point, and personally would remove it, but the point of flip up helmets is that it makes your face visible.
They're not much different than a beanie or similar in that respect. Or those things with flaps that cover your ears.
Flip ups make life a lot easier for glasses wearers too, it's a pain to remove and re fit glasses every time I don my lid.
creampuff said:
Silver993tt said:
If you go into someone's house and you're asked to take off your shoes, you do so. You don't complain and say there's no sign indicating so.
OK, you go into somebody's house. You walk around all of their house in full view of them, wearing your shoes for a good 15 mins or so. After 15 mins walking around with your shoes on the whole time, it is time to leave and you get up and start to head to the door. As you are walking there, the householder stops you, tells you your shoes are not allowed and tries to prevent you from leaving until you take off your shoes.
Is this OK with you? I don't know if you have bothered to read the thread, but this is what happened here.
Blaster72 said:
May I be the first to say I don't believe a word of the OP's account of events. Surrounded by 7 staff members trying to stop him leaving - sure 
The difference is, I very much can believe he would have had seven around him. Maybe not intentionally preventing him from leaving, but I can see how it would have felt like that at the time. Thought it was common knowledge that you remove your helmet before you even enter a shop. It's over twenty years ago that I last worked in a shop and the shop rule was remove your helmet before entering the shop and if you came upto the counter with your helmet on it would be "take it off or I'm not serving you" Give me jip over the rule and I'd ban you from the shop lol
woowahwoo said:
Super Slo Mo said:
I think for comedy value it calls for a biker get together nearby. It's just be mere coincidence that everyone needed to go into the shop simultaneously to get a bottle of something to drink.
Helmeted up of course.
'Comedy value'? I would laugh at anybody sad enough to attend this.Helmeted up of course.
I'm surprised that the OP managed to get 4 pints of milk for a quid! As a non biker(or closet wannabe biker!)I'd say it is unfortunate that there are so many idiots around. At least they are put into jobs well out of harms way. The human brain is organic and should develop so that you can think and change and evolve. Someone who doesn't understand the reason why a certain rule is created and how to implement that rule shouldn't really be allowed to interact with the general public! As I understand it, helmets need to be taken off so that the face is not hidden just incase you decide to take goods and do a runner whether that is stealing a Mars bar/4 pints of milk or robbing a bank! The fact that the OP's face can be clearly seen should negate the need to take off the helmet completely. It's not a law, just a common sense necessity. As for cctv cameras, even if a helmet or hat wasn't worn, it's difficult identifying someone from the back of the head so having a half face helmet on doesn't make a difference to identifying from behind.
As has been said many times, too many jobsworths. Their employers should find ways to keep their staff more occupied so they don't do stupid things
As has been said many times, too many jobsworths. Their employers should find ways to keep their staff more occupied so they don't do stupid things
paulshears said:
Thought it was common knowledge that you remove your helmet before you even enter a shop. It's over twenty years ago that I last worked in a shop and the shop rule was remove your helmet before entering the shop and if you came upto the counter with your helmet on it would be "take it off or I'm not serving you" Give me jip over the rule and I'd ban you from the shop lol
But they have a helmet on so you can't identify them so how would a ban work? Oh how they must of laughed the next day popping in without a helmet and being served as you did recognise them. Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff