Which is the best at touring the S1000R or S1000RR?
Poll: Which is the best at touring the S1000R or S1000RR?
Total Members Polled: 31
Discussion
ZesPak said:
Of the two, I'd have the S1000R with a screen.
The problem with either though is not the riding, it's when you get off them, you actually have to look at them
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LOL... this is so true!!!The problem with either though is not the riding, it's when you get off them, you actually have to look at them
.Man I love the spec, price and design of the S1000R but the front end is beyond horrible.
The Tuono V4 looks so much better.
Owning a 2014 R and doing 7/8 hours on it to Skye, I'd say the RR is comfier! I have the BMW touring screen, but it only directs the wind at my head rather than my body. But the biggest single criticism is the seat is so hard and the foam so thin. It's quite a sporty riding position too, with your legs particularly quite high. It's no comfortable tourer, but the upright position is easier to see ahead (plus cruise control is very useful!)
I've only done a test ride on a RR and Loon's trackbike RR, so not got a lot of opinion on it. But it definitely felt comfier to me, I was amazed how comfortable Loon's track bike was. However, the R's power delivery makes it very easy to cruise around on, with the wind keeping your top speeds down (a bit).
I did do the same run to Skye on my GSX-R 750 and it was comfier.
I've only done a test ride on a RR and Loon's trackbike RR, so not got a lot of opinion on it. But it definitely felt comfier to me, I was amazed how comfortable Loon's track bike was. However, the R's power delivery makes it very easy to cruise around on, with the wind keeping your top speeds down (a bit).
I did do the same run to Skye on my GSX-R 750 and it was comfier.
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Man I love the spec, price and design of the S1000R but the front end is beyond horrible.
The Tuono V4 looks so much better.Headlights aside I think the R is much better looking than the Tuono.
Renn Sport said:
ZesPak said:
Of the two, I'd have the S1000R with a screen.
The problem with either though is not the riding, it's when you get off them, you actually have to look at them.
LOL... this is so true!!!The problem with either though is not the riding, it's when you get off them, you actually have to look at them
.Man I love the spec, price and design of the S1000R but the front end is beyond horrible.
The Tuono V4 looks so much better.
No... this is not true. The Tuono as a package kills the S1000R in the looks department. However saying that I would probably buy the S1000R over the Tuono due to the superior dealer network, parts availability, and the price that you cannot argue with.
In fact I would say my next bike in 2016 may be a S1000R, S1000RR or XR1000... I think the quality, service and price of the S1000 range is that good.
In fact I would say my next bike in 2016 may be a S1000R, S1000RR or XR1000... I think the quality, service and price of the S1000 range is that good.
jhoneyball said:
K1300S in the right colour
It's a matter of opinion.I think the K1300S only looks good next to other BMW's, other than that it's far from pretty/beautiful. It looks purposeful and it looks like a bike, but that's about it.
On top of that, for the price class it's in, the fit and finish are quite "meh".
jhoneyball said:
bogie said:
name any beautiful, pretty looking BMW bikes you can think of .... ?
K1300S in the right colour I have a soft spot for the original K1, nearly bought one a couple of times over the years....but all the flat twins, even the HP2, are not really my thing
How many people have ridden either? Only those who've actually ridden the bike should be able to offer an opinion and then it's just their view.
I've had an S1000RR (or HP4) since 2010. I find them very comfortable to ride for long days and distance at speed and on twisty roads. Sitting on one for a long journey on a dual carriageway or motorway is a doddle.
I've had an S1000RR (or HP4) since 2010. I find them very comfortable to ride for long days and distance at speed and on twisty roads. Sitting on one for a long journey on a dual carriageway or motorway is a doddle.
I've done a few thousand miles on both R and RR. R is a more upright position, the RR obviously more racer.
Both are *very* easy and benign to ride. Whether you prefer the RR or the R position wil come down to age, and what you normally ride. I prefer the R, but I'm 51. If you ride superbikes all the time, the RR will be comfortable.
Both are *way* less intense then, say, my Panigale 1199S which just requires too much effort to do a significant distance in. It isnt happy unless you are caning it, at which point speeds (and concentration levels) are simply too high for UK roads.
Which is why *my* personal favourite is the K1300S. Perfectly happy doing 30mph in 6th. Perfectly happy on a motorway. PErfectly happy make fast progress on A roads. And it doesnt require the intensity of either riding position or concentration that the Panigale S needs
Both are *very* easy and benign to ride. Whether you prefer the RR or the R position wil come down to age, and what you normally ride. I prefer the R, but I'm 51. If you ride superbikes all the time, the RR will be comfortable.
Both are *way* less intense then, say, my Panigale 1199S which just requires too much effort to do a significant distance in. It isnt happy unless you are caning it, at which point speeds (and concentration levels) are simply too high for UK roads.
Which is why *my* personal favourite is the K1300S. Perfectly happy doing 30mph in 6th. Perfectly happy on a motorway. PErfectly happy make fast progress on A roads. And it doesnt require the intensity of either riding position or concentration that the Panigale S needs
LoonR1 said:
How many people have ridden either? Only those who've actually ridden the bike should be able to offer an opinion and then it's just their view.
I've had an S1000RR (or HP4) since 2010. I find them very comfortable to ride for long days and distance at speed and on twisty roads. Sitting on one for a long journey on a dual carriageway or motorway is a doddle.
I think anyone should be able to offer an opinion Loon, but not all opinions are equal. I've had an S1000RR (or HP4) since 2010. I find them very comfortable to ride for long days and distance at speed and on twisty roads. Sitting on one for a long journey on a dual carriageway or motorway is a doddle.
I didn't vote, I don't know enough. But I was surprised most folk didn't agree with you. I would have though a lack of true fairing is a huge problem for distance, before seating came into it.
I also saw BMW do a "comfort seat" for the S1000RR. Presumably for old men with piles, so there must be a few out there who use it for distance.
I've done about 350 miles on each ...a few tanks of fuel over a weekend
I have hip replacements and need my knees doing, some 6" bolts holding my pelvis and lower spine together, metal plates in my arms, a few pins in both feet and ankle so some restricted movement and arthritis there too
The S1000R was the better of the two for hip/knee angle and reduced forward lean. Both were awesome from a performance perspective. The lack of screen is fine with me, my neck muscles are one part of me up to the job. I could do a few hundred miles on the S1000R, I kept getting cramp on RR.
So I guess I'm not the "average" test rider, but I'm not giving up trying sports bikes yet
I have hip replacements and need my knees doing, some 6" bolts holding my pelvis and lower spine together, metal plates in my arms, a few pins in both feet and ankle so some restricted movement and arthritis there too
The S1000R was the better of the two for hip/knee angle and reduced forward lean. Both were awesome from a performance perspective. The lack of screen is fine with me, my neck muscles are one part of me up to the job. I could do a few hundred miles on the S1000R, I kept getting cramp on RR.
So I guess I'm not the "average" test rider, but I'm not giving up trying sports bikes yet
I've ridden the S1000RR but not the S1000R. I, long ago, gave up trying to tour on anything without a fairing so wouldn't even consider the S10000R. That said, the S1000RR was not, for me, comfortable enough for more than about 45 minutes. There is no way I could do 500+ miles, 12 hour days on an S1000RR as you occasionally need to when touring.
Asking the question is like asking if plain or milk chocolate makes the best tea pot. If you want to tour at speed on a BMW then there are many better alternatives, including the S1000XR and especially the K1300S.
Asking the question is like asking if plain or milk chocolate makes the best tea pot. If you want to tour at speed on a BMW then there are many better alternatives, including the S1000XR and especially the K1300S.
black-k1 said:
I've ridden the S1000RR but not the S1000R. I, long ago, gave up trying to tour on anything without a fairing so wouldn't even consider the S10000R. That said, the S1000RR was not, for me, comfortable enough for more than about 45 minutes. There is no way I could do 500+ miles, 12 hour days on an S1000RR as you occasionally need to when touring.
Asking the question is like asking if plain or milk chocolate makes the best tea pot. If you want to tour at speed on a BMW then there are many better alternatives, including the S1000XR and especially the K1300S.
Have to agree. One thing which is odd about the XR, despite all of its amazing capabilities, is that there is no tyre pressure monitoring option on it (there is on the K1300S). I certainly like TPM if I'm off on a long trip away from homeAsking the question is like asking if plain or milk chocolate makes the best tea pot. If you want to tour at speed on a BMW then there are many better alternatives, including the S1000XR and especially the K1300S.
jhoneyball said:
black-k1 said:
I've ridden the S1000RR but not the S1000R. I, long ago, gave up trying to tour on anything without a fairing so wouldn't even consider the S10000R. That said, the S1000RR was not, for me, comfortable enough for more than about 45 minutes. There is no way I could do 500+ miles, 12 hour days on an S1000RR as you occasionally need to when touring.
Asking the question is like asking if plain or milk chocolate makes the best tea pot. If you want to tour at speed on a BMW then there are many better alternatives, including the S1000XR and especially the K1300S.
Have to agree. One thing which is odd about the XR, despite all of its amazing capabilities, is that there is no tyre pressure monitoring option on it (there is on the K1300S). I certainly like TPM if I'm off on a long trip away from homeAsking the question is like asking if plain or milk chocolate makes the best tea pot. If you want to tour at speed on a BMW then there are many better alternatives, including the S1000XR and especially the K1300S.
black-k1 said:
Asking the question is like asking if plain or milk chocolate makes the best tea pot. If you want to tour at speed on a BMW then there are many better alternatives, including the S1000XR and especially the K1300S.
What a useful revelation. If only I'd thought of that several days ago.Prof Prolapse several days ago said:
Also I am aware of the S1000XR, I know a GS is obviously best, [insert additional caveats here], blah blah blah, just a bit of fun.
Prof Prolapse said:
black-k1 said:
Asking the question is like asking if plain or milk chocolate makes the best tea pot. If you want to tour at speed on a BMW then there are many better alternatives, including the S1000XR, as already mentioned, and especially the K1300S also as previously mentioned.
What a useful revelation. If only I'd thought of that several days ago.Prof Prolapse several days ago said:
Also I am aware of the S1000XR, I know a GS is obviously best, [insert additional caveats here], blah blah blah, just a bit of fun.
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