BB turning into GG/Lounge

[Fleegle]

LoonR1 said:

Well that's bizarre. You write a pretty hefty post (with some good points and some less so) and then distance yourself from it straight away. Why?

I'm blunt. I'm blunt in real life. You don't understand that, much as I don't understand people who pussyfoot around a topic. Some of this will be the North vs South thing, some will be who we are and the environment we live / work / socialise in. Personally, I've met quite a few people off here and they will tell you that I'm the same person in the flesh as I am on here. I have flaws, but so what? Nobody's perfect.

What I don't do is bleat on about stuff from months back. There are several posters on here who have effectively turned their back on some potentially good meets due to minor stuff that wouldn't register on my radar, but to them is akin to shagging their wife up the wrong 'un over their bike while they're watching.

I'm not aggressive online, I just type bluntly and then people read it in a shouty way. I've said before, read it in a camp way amd it'll change the time and what you think I'm saying. Read it in a soft Irish accent, or a soft Welsh valleys one the same thing happens. Now read it in a reet Northern twang and it'll sound aggressive, but then all us Northerners sound aggressive to the shy type.

The thought is frightening me

[LoonR1]

woowahwoo said:

yeah, yeah, yeah, play the northerner-card

You can do one as well, remember you're supposed to be me as well according to someone that I can't remember.

[Reardy Mister]

LoonR1 said:

Reardy Mister said:

LoonR1 said:

woowahwoo said:

I got bored by the second paragraph. Summary?

Ready Mister (and DogStar) don't like me, but haven't got the balls to say it explicitly.

Not true. I can (and have) asked you directly, by name, why you insist on your needlessly aggressive posting style. But I can't say I don't like you because I haven't met you. You may well fall into the bracket of people who are really only aggressive online. Or aren't aggressive at all, just lack the ability or inclination to clarify their tone or intent, in their posts.

I've met PHers, the stty communicators far outweigh the genuine dicks.

Well that's bizarre. You write a pretty hefty post (with some good points and some less so) and then distance yourself from it straight away. Why?

I'm blunt. I'm blunt in real life. You don't understand that, much as I don't understand people who pussyfoot around a topic. Some of this will be the North vs South thing, some will be who we are and the environment we live / work / socialise in. Personally, I've met quite a few people off here and they will tell you that I'm the same person in the flesh as I am on here. I have flaws, but so what? Nobody's perfect.

What I don't do is bleat on about stuff from months back. There are several posters on here who have effectively turned their back on some potentially good meets due to minor stuff that wouldn't register on my radar, but to them is akin to shagging their wife up the wrong 'un over their bike while they're watching.

I'm not aggressive online, I just type bluntly and then people read it in a shouty way. I've said before, read it in a camp way amd it'll change the time and what you think I'm saying. Read it in a soft Irish accent, or a soft Welsh valleys one the same thing happens. Now read it in a reet Northern twang and it'll sound aggressive, but then all us Northerners sound aggressive to the shy type.

I don't see where I've distanced myself from it?

To clarify, I'll link to the occasion I've mentioned above so that you can see it's not something I've been butthurtly brewing for months.

I take your point that the whole thing may boil down to a cultural difference and the validity of that in type can't be overstated (ignoring the fact that there are plenty of other people here from North of the Watford Gap who are not widely considered as abrasive). In which case, I now know that your posts will lose their edge if they sound in my head like Dale Winton. And that's fine, I can live with that, now I know. And newbies? Will they just have to be offended until they get the Dale Winton chat?
All I'm doing is suggesting that you make use of a tool that helps clarify your tone (smilies but that's only one). If nothing else it would save you having to Dale everyone one by one?

Edited by Reardy Mister on Monday 24th August 21:51

[LoonR1]

Fleegle said:

The thought is frightening me

Excellent I knew I was losing weight and that shows it off perfectly.

[Dog Star]

LoonR1 said:

Ready Mister (and DogStar) don't like me, but haven't got the balls to say it explicitly.

You said something similar ^^^ up there somewhere and I couldn't actually be arsed answering; all I've done since is agree with RMs post (I didn't quote the whole post; where it's cut off is coincidental; nothing to do with you). I've no idea if you are a likeable person or if I like you; I've never met you. If I didn't I'd tell you - in person; I'm no shrinking violet. Why would you care? I don't.

For what it's worth I've found that under your sometimes rather rude shell you've been a very helpful chap to a lot of people in here and SP&L - myself included (when I got my garage burgled), thanks - with letters, insurance advice and so on.

My original observation was simply about the BB sub forum - no names were mentioned nor do they need to be - it was a general post from someone who is still an "outsider" here after 5 years (plus several previously under a different name). Truth be told it was semi tongue-in-cheek - I seem to have raised a bit of a hornets nest. Its like moving to a remote village and going to the pub.

[LoonR1]

Dog Star said:

You said something similar ^^^ up there somewhere and I couldn't actually be arsed answering; all I've done since is agree with RMs post (I didn't quote the whole post; where it's cut off is coincidental; nothing to do with you). I've no idea if you are a likeable person or if I like you; I've never met you. If I didn't I'd tell you - in person; I'm no shrinking violet. Why would you care? I don't.

For what it's worth I've found that under your sometimes rather rude shell you've been a very helpful chap to a lot of people in here and SP&L - myself included (when I got my garage burgled), thanks - with letters, insurance advice and so on.

My original observation was simply about the BB sub forum - no names were mentioned nor do they need to be - it was a general post from someone who is still an "outsider" here after 5 years (plus several previously under a different name). Truth be told it was semi tongue-in-cheek - I seem to have raised a bit of a hornets nest. Its like moving to a remote village and going to the pub.

I'm rarely serious. I will help where I can, but as I keep saying, people read my posts in a shouty way. Don't avoid NW meets because of me. On the busier ones you can easily avoid me, as I'll be the most awesome of awesome riders heading off into the distance one handed.

[Fleegle]

LoonR1 said:

I'm rarely serious. I will help where I can, but as I keep saying, people read my posts in a shouty way. Don't avoid NW meets because of me. On the busier ones you can easily avoid me, as I'll be the most awesome of awesome riders heading off into the distance one handed.

Sharia law?

[Dog Star]

LoonR1 said:

I'm rarely serious. I will help where I can, but as I keep saying, people read my posts in a shouty way. Don't avoid NW meets because of me. On the busier ones you can easily avoid me, as I'll be the most awesome of awesome riders heading off into the distance one handed.

I have never ever stated that I would avoid anything because of you why would I avoid anyone? If I'd taken time to go for a ride with people I'd be doing it to make friends - otherwise I could go on my own.

[LoonR1]

Dog Star said:

LoonR1 said:

I'm rarely serious. I will help where I can, but as I keep saying, people read my posts in a shouty way. Don't avoid NW meets because of me. On the busier ones you can easily avoid me, as I'll be the most awesome of awesome riders heading off into the distance one handed.

I have never ever stated that I would avoid anything because of you why would I avoid anyone? If I'd taken time to go for a ride with people I'd be doing it to make friends - otherwise I could go on my own.

You may well not have said it directly about me, but you did say you'd avoid them. I've met people that I now consider close friends on these rideouts, so they can't be cliquey. We are all awesome riders though so beware

Dog Star said:

I'll stand by a previous observation of mine - it's very very very cliquey in here. That seems to create a lot of arselicking of certain members, and I reckon it's why you're in the st if you upset the "top table".

Certainly puts me off posting in here or even attempting to bother with a NW rideout - not that I could possibly keep up with or ride to the prerequisite standards it would appear.

[curlie467]

LoonR1 said:

woowahwoo said:

yeah, yeah, yeah, play the northerner-card

You can do one as well, remember you're supposed to be me as well according to someone that I can't remember.

First sign of madness right there!

[black-k1]

PH BB has definitely moved away from threads about bikes and biking into much more of a "group down the pub" type atmosphere. This is in some ways a good thing and shows that many posters are having fun and enjoying themselves. It is however, a lot like a group at 11:30pm, after a really good evening, where, if you're one of the sober designated drivers, then, the jokes that the others find hilarious, and the macho "billy big bks" strutting that goes on, can seem pretty pathetic and totally un-funny.

[Yazza54]

It's always the ones that avoid meeting other forum members that feel it's too cliquey, hmm

A lot of us on here are actual friends in real life, there is absolutely no requirement to follow suit, but subsequently calling those who dare to take it beyond the keyboard cliquey is a bit of a pisstake for me.

Unless I've totally missed something, everyone has always been more than welcome on any rideouts, trackdays etc. I can't be arsed with the forum as much nowadays so maybe I'm not totally up to speed with all the drama... But there is a recurring theme here. Maybe some of the internet bravado and bullst is too off putting for some from the outset, but to me that's all it is and it's pretty fking transparent as tongue in cheek, too.

[Biker's Nemesis]

black-k1 said:

PH BB has definitely moved away from threads about bikes and biking into much more of a "group down the pub" type atmosphere. This is in some ways a good thing and shows that many posters are having fun and enjoying themselves. It is however, a lot like a group at 11:30pm, after a really good evening, where, if you're one of the sober designated drivers, then, the jokes that the others find hilarious, and the macho "billy big bks" strutting that goes on, can seem pretty pathetic and totally un-funny.

I bet you like a Babycham.

[FartKong]

Where do these NW rideouts take place? Obvious question of the day but I'm assuming NW means North West?

[Prof Prolapse]

North Wisconsin.

[The Beaver King]

This thread went a little 'fruity'...

I think the points raised about BB are symptomatic across PH as a whole, more so of late. Back in the old days, it was easy to spot the groups and even easier to join in with them. Over the last year or so, most of the characters have left and the groups have shrunk down to little 'cliques'.

Not really much that can be done about that unfortunately. Some aspects of PH are still pretty accessible (Gaming, Employment, Marque Forums) but The Lounge, SP&L and BB are very close knit. BB is nowhere near as bad as the other two though; far less fighting in here and hopefully it stays that way.

LoonR1? Cut from the same cloth as BreadVan; helpful, sarcastic and very curt. I have a friend who is exactly the same and you either get it or you don't. Focus on the content and not the writing style; you'll probably be less offended.


Anyway, any Midland meets in BB? I quite fancy going for a ride with some of you weirdos...

[Renn Sport]

LoonR1 said:

woowahwoo said:

I got bored by the second paragraph. Summary?

Ready Mister (and DogStar) don't like me, but haven't got the balls to say it explicitly.

I'll say it...

You come across like an arrogant dick most of the time. Your far too opinionated and have been the death of many a post. Its like you have far too much time on your hands. Its obvious people avoid interacting with you apart from the usual mob who know you, tolerate you, like you or dont want to get into it with you.

Your probably a awesome guy in person and I'd probably love man hug with you fella. We'll meet at some point I am sure and I will be the wrongest I have ever been about someone.

However until that time... I envisage you riding a BMW GS1200 with touratech equipment a flipface lid and a POLITE dayglo vest. Thats how I see you.

AVOID.

[The Beaver King]

Renn Sport said:

I'll say it...

You come across like an arrogant dick most of the time. Your far too opinionated and have been the death of many a post. Its like you have far too much time on your hands. Its obvious people avoid interacting with you apart from the usual mob who know you, tolerate you, like you or dont want to get into it with you.

Your probably a awesome guy in person and I'd probably love man hug with you fella. We'll meet at some point I am sure and I will be the wrongest I have ever been about someone.

However until that time... I envisage you riding a BMW GS1200 with touratech equipment a flipface lid and a POLITE dayglo vest. Thats how I see you.

AVOID.

....but you think he's alright, yeah?

[mybrainhurts]

[spareparts]

When you meet other bikers for the first time, people are normally friendly, polite, happy and excited to share positive stuff about their bike/new farkle accessory etc and make the effort to be nice or try to offer as helpful advice as possible without offending. People often provide complementary remarks - especially if the biker/owner is happy to share something about their biking hobby/interest.

And if there is nothing positive to be said, then one normally keeps some discretion, and may keep that conversation for a private 1-1 depending on how well they know the person.

It would be a whole lot better and more inclusive if people took the same approach to BB.