Self posting video gets him Nine months inside

Self posting video gets him Nine months inside

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John D.

17,701 posts

208 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Mad Jock said:
He'll also never be trusted again to take a bike for a test ride, ever. It also highlights why some dealers simply won't offer test rides. Frankly, the dealer should have smelled a rat when the daft moron turned up with a camera stuck on his helmet. Are we sure that we want to buy that ex-demonstrator sir?
I doubt dealers will even remember his name in the future. Do you have to declare convictions? Do they actually check?

Loads of people film test rides too judging by Youtube. Doing little reviews and such, quite openly leaving the shop filming, so I don't see why that would put them off.

Clearly a bit of a wally, and I do feel sorry for car and bike dealers having to waste time with such 'test pilots'.

Do we really think bike dealers would be shocked at the speeds on the test ride? I doubt it.

dukeboy749r

2,536 posts

209 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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rohrl said:
A variation on this story is posted every month on PH and yet still people film themselves speeding and upload it to Youtube. At this point I'm starting to think they deserve banning purely for idiocy if not the speeding.
+1

creampuff

6,511 posts

142 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Well now, that is completely fked.

I thought his riding wasn't that bad, not great, but could have been a lot worse. He actually did position himself on the road so he could see further, which I guess you would want to do if you were going at 120mph.

9 months is fking stupid. Nobody crashed, nobody died. If there was your typical careless driving crash, with a fatality, where somebody really does end up dead, then the driver could expect either a fine+points or if banned, then the driver could expect a shorter duration of ban than the 2 years this guy got on top of the 9 months banged up.


davemac250

4,499 posts

204 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Sorry to be the voice of reason, but the dangerous driving cannot be for just speed.

It will be for something else in the footage - not giving way at junctions, passing too close at speed to other cars/pedestrians

Also, no mention of previous character - plays a big part in sentencing. Not saying he has, but if he did have a few things lurking in his past that 9 (or 8 depending on the report) looks very different.

redblade

158 posts

237 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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...and on that evidence, I'd take the BMW.



Must be more to it than we've been told? Nine months?

Esceptico

7,334 posts

108 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Whilst judges and magistrates have a lot of discretion with you can expect sentences that are a little hard for outsiders to explain. Remember that Aussie guy who protested at the boat race, who was put in prison and then the Home Secretary tried to have him deported (lesson to be learned: don't ps off Oxbridge graduates in power).

I've read of academic studies that show that sentencing is even affected by time of day (if I have got it the right way around you are likely to get a better sentence first thing in the morning rather than after lunch when the judges are a bit tired and fed up).

The length of the sentence can also be a deterrent to others. In this case the magistrate seems to have latched onto the idea that the rider was posting the videos to impress other people and that he might have been riding extra fast because he was going to put it on the web. The harsh sentence may be to deter others from copying his behaviour. Not sure if it really works though.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Two counts of dangerous driving, one at over 150mph according to the article.

CPS Sentencing guidelines for DD are here:
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manu...

More than double the speed limit, on bikes you don't own and you video it and put it on the web - there's your aggravating factors.

Take the risk, take the consequences.

Dick Dastardly

8,312 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Judge Francis Gilbert, QC, told Dixon he could not recall any other case of such extremely dangerous driving. He said: “It was a miracle nobody was killed or seriously injured, including yourself.”

What a drama queen. I bet he rides a scooter.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

129 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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He's wearing a hoodie in the Fireblade video. Says it all really. :P

Blackpuddin

16,408 posts

204 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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And yet this spotty oaf going 8mph faster (in a car, hmm) gets off with a ban:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3209999/Dr...

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Blackpuddin said:
And yet this spotty oaf going 8mph faster (in a car, hmm) gets off with a ban:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3209999/Dr...
Although the headline says 161 he was actually done for 122mph and that was a single offence on a motorway in light traffic, not two separate offences on back roads where there are junctions all over the shop.

He got a three month jail sentence suspended for 18 months as well as the fine and a ban. Can't imagine he wouldn't have faced a similar penalty to the guy on the bike if he'd filmed himself doing similar speeds on similar roads and there was also evidence of him doing it more than once.

Blackpuddin

16,408 posts

204 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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That'll teach me for taking a Daily Wail headline as any sort of indicator as to what the actual story contains.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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biggrin It's more of a comic than a newspaper......

Undinist

200 posts

138 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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davemac250 said:
Sorry to be the voice of reason, but the dangerous driving cannot be for just speed.
I've read somewhere that 30 mph over the limit is enough to get you dangerous driving. I would be reassured to be proved wrong, though, if you have a link.

0000

13,812 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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9 months does seem a bit ridiculous.

raddish

35 posts

125 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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to me it seems a bit ridiculous when you compare it to the video on the story below where the little prick only got 12 month.

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/watch-tee...

moanthebairns

17,917 posts

197 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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raddish said:
to me it seems a bit ridiculous when you compare it to the video on the story below where the little prick only got 12 month.

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/watch-tee...
Jesus fk I couldn't watch all that. I expected a slap or a punch or a push. That was truly horrific.

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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moanthebairns said:
raddish said:
to me it seems a bit ridiculous when you compare it to the video on the story below where the little prick only got 12 month.

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/watch-tee...
Jesus fk I couldn't watch all that. I expected a slap or a punch or a push. That was truly horrific.
I bet that's the first time he's shown any kind of propensity for violence too. Yep, nothing about him should indicate he's a complete fking loser. Never raised a hand to her. Oh hang on...

CAPP0

19,530 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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dean100yz said:
This thread kinda spooked me so I just put as private on the 4 road ones

The rest is racing or track days. There were a few thousand people who had watched so at least some got to see an MV Agusta been spanked for a bit

Cheers guys
You'll be fine, I'm absolutely certain that marking vids as private means that the authorities can't see them under any circumstances, I mean, they don't have any advanced technology or skills do they, they have no way of getting hold of them fromYT, who would just tell them to do one, and if you deleted them now then YT will also make sure that they delete all the copies held in their backups as well. They employ people just to do that. It's all OK. As long as you haven't said anywhere on the internet that you've got videos online of yourself speeding, then nobody will know anyway!

Esceptico

7,334 posts

108 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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moanthebairns said:
Jesus fk I couldn't watch all that. I expected a slap or a punch or a push. That was truly horrific.
Didn't have the stomach to watch it. Reading the details was enough. I don't know the particulars of the case but surely 12 months is too lenient?