Self posting video gets him Nine months inside

[Esceptico]

black-k1 said:

PS The twin towers did not fall down because Al Queida wanted to destroy them as part of its fight against the U.S. Al Queida (or any one else) can "want" as much as they like, it won't make something happen. The towers DID fall down because planes full of fuel crashed into them. Why the panes crashed into them is a different discussion.

So using an analogy: you want to kill someone. You consider shooting, stabbing, drowning, hanging, poisoning and pushing them off a cliff. For practical reasons (ie method likely to work) you choose to shoot them. You do indeed shoot them and they die. You are saying that in determining the cause of death it is more important to focus on the method of death (bullet) rather than the intention and plans to murder the victim? I think most people looking at cause and effect would see the intention to kill as the cause and the bullet merely the way in which the intention was realised. Same with the twin towers. Al Queida used aeroplanes (they had previously tried and failed with car bombs) as the instrument of destruction but the cause was their intention to perpetrate the terrorist act.

[anonymous-user]

woowahwoo said:

Dangerous driving has such a broad scope and the sentencing even more so, and so much of it is subjective, comprised of the could-haves and might-haves, that it is not really in accordance with anything. This sentence is not typical, by virtue of that position and by virtue of comparison with other convictions (for dangerous driving). It's another example of heavier sentencing for motorcycle speeding.

We have to remember there were two offences, both of high culpability with several aggravating factors.

woowahwoo said:

Your second paragraph...I'm unsure if you were suggesting a link between the sentence and the cost of dealing with emergency situations? If so, is that part of the sentencing guidelines and factors considered?

I wasn't making that link.

Esceptico said:

Do you have any evidence that motorcyclists get harsher sentences for similar speeding or traffic offences?

It would need a lot of data to make such a conclusions.

[Mad Jock]

Esceptico said:

black-k1 said:

PS The twin towers did not fall down because Al Queida wanted to destroy them as part of its fight against the U.S. Al Queida (or any one else) can "want" as much as they like, it won't make something happen. The towers DID fall down because planes full of fuel crashed into them. Why the panes crashed into them is a different discussion.

So using an analogy: you want to kill someone. You consider shooting, stabbing, drowning, hanging, poisoning and pushing them off a cliff. For practical reasons (ie method likely to work) you choose to shoot them. You do indeed shoot them and they die. You are saying that in determining the cause of death it is more important to focus on the method of death (bullet) rather than the intention and plans to murder the victim? I think most people looking at cause and effect would see the intention to kill as the cause and the bullet merely the way in which the intention was realised. Same with the twin towers. Al Queida used aeroplanes (they had previously tried and failed with car bombs) as the instrument of destruction but the cause was their intention to perpetrate the terrorist act.

In any Pathologist's report into cause of death, the answer will be something along the lines of "fatal loss of blood due to severing of femoral artery, caused by knife". Not being a Coroner, forgive my lack of technical jargon. The Pathologit's report will not say that the death was caused by Jimmy "The Blade" Smith.

[moanthebairns]

3 football pitches apparently.

[Baryonyx]

RemyMartin said:

Which ironically would put you in jail, for longer, for GBH.

Idiot.

Jail for GBH? Only if you're of previous good character. If you're a hardened criminal you could expect a pretty serious Community Order to come your way.

[BobSaunders]

Year ban as well.

I would say that isn't even that fast for down the dual carriageway there, it's open and straight.

[Reardy Mister]

moanthebairns said:

3 football pitches apparently.

I despise the way they trot out the "football pitch" yardstick for stopping distances.

Firstly, 3 football pitches at 147mph is tosh. I'd be amazed if its more than one.

Secondly, even if it 3, if he is looking 4 football pitches up the road, he still has a 1 football pitch to spare.

Thirdly, what's the difference between needing 3 football pitches to stop when an incident occurs within 1 pitch, and needing only 1 squash court to stop when an incident occurs at half a badminton court and a cribbage board away?

Fourth, why do I let "news" papers make me angry?

[bogie]

probably more like 2 football pitches with good reactions and standing it on its nose from 147mph

[Yoda400]

They use football pitches because the great unwashed masses apparently can't understand distances but can understand sport.
How long until driving tests are dumbed down with "how many football pitches away from the car in front should you be when travelling at the speed of Usain Bolt?"

[anonymous-user]

9 months is complete overkill.

People make manoeuvres in cars which kill motorcyclists and are found 100 percent at fault in court and get 12 months driving bans with no custodial sentence.

[FartKong]

Stickyfinger said:

Say what you like Gents, remember to me you are just pixels and I can just ignore them with ease by scrolling my mouse for a micro second.

Clearly not with over 400 posts in two months. How any other threads do you troll?

Stickyfinger said:

Let me clear it up for you all, given the choice I would NOT jail the rider for nine months either, I would beat the life out of the with a baseball bat and put the dangerous life threatening bd in hospital for nine. ? Clear ?

So this rider hurt no-one even if his actions were selfish in that he didn't think of the consequences of hitting anyone else yet you are publicly saying you would almost kill him with a bat? And somehow I bet you think you are a better person than him?

[RemaL]

moanthebairns said:

3 football pitches apparently.

After a google that would be approx 315 meters .

so whats the stopping distance then from 70.


for the edit

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=390...

Edited by RemaL on Wednesday 2nd September 15:29

[Reardy Mister]

RemaL said:

After a google that would be approx 315 meters .

so whats the stopping distance then from 70.


for the edit

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=390...

Edited by RemaL on Wednesday 2nd September 15:29

According to the highway code, or in real life?

[moanthebairns]

RemaL said:

moanthebairns said:

3 football pitches apparently.

After a google that would be approx 315 meters .

so whats the stopping distance then from 70.


for the edit

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=390...

Edited by RemaL on Wednesday 2nd September 15:29

Don't want to be a pain but the minimum length of a football pitch is 90m max 120m

so I've no idea where you got your figures from

I'd be asking the question if I was up in the stand. Is it 3 Victoria parks or 3 hampden parks, because 3 hampden parks = 4 Victoria Parks, but if its 3 Victoria parks that's only really 2 and a bit at the Falkirk stadium not 3.

I realise this means nothing to anyone on here as its BB but if we are going to use football pitches as a unit of measurement can we note that they can differ by 30 m in length.

[neelyp]

moanthebairns said:

RemaL said:

moanthebairns said:

3 football pitches apparently.

After a google that would be approx 315 meters .

so whats the stopping distance then from 70.


for the edit

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=390...

Edited by RemaL on Wednesday 2nd September 15:29

Don't want to be a pain but the minimum length of a football pitch is 90m max 120m

so I've no idea where you got your figures from

I'd be asking the question if I was up in the stand. Is it 3 Victoria parks or 3 hampden parks, because 3 hampden parks = 4 Victoria Parks, but if its 3 Victoria parks that's only really 2 and a bit at the Falkirk stadium not 3.

I realise this means nothing to anyone on here as its BB but if we are going to use football pitches as a unit of measurement can we note that they can differ by 30 m in length.

He might have got his figures from the average length of football pitch being 105m therefore three of them would be 315m.
Perhaps.

[moanthebairns]

neelyp said:

moanthebairns said:

RemaL said:

moanthebairns said:

3 football pitches apparently.

After a google that would be approx 315 meters .

so whats the stopping distance then from 70.


for the edit

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=390...

Edited by RemaL on Wednesday 2nd September 15:29

Don't want to be a pain but the minimum length of a football pitch is 90m max 120m

so I've no idea where you got your figures from

I'd be asking the question if I was up in the stand. Is it 3 Victoria parks or 3 hampden parks, because 3 hampden parks = 4 Victoria Parks, but if its 3 Victoria parks that's only really 2 and a bit at the Falkirk stadium not 3.

I realise this means nothing to anyone on here as its BB but if we are going to use football pitches as a unit of measurement can we note that they can differ by 30 m in length.

He might have got his figures from the average length of football pitch being 105m therefore three of them would be 315m.
Perhaps.

It was a poorly worded response, I wasn't very good at getting the point over that football pitches aren't all the same size it depends what ground you take them from.

[moanthebairns]

A driver who hit 140mph on the A9 has been banned from the road for a year.

Robert Compton told police he wanted to see what his modified Vauxhall Vectra could do, and admitted he "maybe should have booked a track day".

Officers manning a roadside speed trap said the car sounded like a jet engine.

The 41-year-old, of Auchterarder, admitted driving dangerously at speeds of up to 140mph on 25 June, 2014, and was banned from driving and fined £500.

Compton told Perth Sheriff Court that he had spent £1,600 converting the car to LPG fuel to save money, and wanted to test how it was working.


he said: "The road was completely empty, it was just a perfect opportunity. I was astounded at how quiet the road was.

"I couldn't have been a danger, apart from maybe to myself. I maybe should have booked a track day at Crail or Knockhill."

Fiscal depute Stuart Richardson, noting that the route is "often called one of the most dangerous roads in Scotland", asked Compton: "Do you think you can drive at whatever speed you like on the A9?"

Sheriff Christopher Shead banned Compton from driving for 12 months and fined him £500. He was also ordered to pass the extended driving test before getting his licence back.

[ORD]

Relevance? Not comparable at all. It sounds like the kind of driving that people on here will say is perfectly safe and should be legal. Nobody would say that of the biker's riding in the clips.

[moanthebairns]

ORD said:

Relevance? Not comparable at all. It sounds like the kind of driving that people on here will say is perfectly safe and should be legal. Nobody would say that of the biker's riding in the clips.

I was more impressed with the fact he got his vectra up to that speed.

[Prof Prolapse]

I got busted doing 91mph on the A9 on Sunday.

The coppers were alright about it despite my outburst of laughter when he told me how quick I'd been doing. stty old C-Max shifts apparently.

I'm also pretty sure I hold the land speed record of 83mph in 1 litre Nissan Micra K12.

I forget my point.