Chris Harris on his new 1299S Pani
Discussion
rat840771 said:
I'm intrigued to know how good these aids are at preventing high sides etc, I can only assume that you can bank it over into a corner and be a lot more aggressive and let the aids do the work ( can you drift like stoner). If I had paid north of £14k for a bike I wouldn't like to test out that theory. Ill never forget Pedrosa being spat off in a race as some sensor had been damaged on the bike, this highlighted how dependent they are on the electronic aids.
pretty good really. if I wind the TC up on either my Aprilia or Duc, they won't give power if you are leant over and open the throttle more than it likes. So you get either a staccato cutting or a lack of drive and a load of blinking lights to tell you No! Where it gets interesting is when you start dialing the TC down. Start pulling on the cable and they will spin and drift the tail and leave big black lines in your wake. Whilst they're not foolproof, it's a pretty amazing experience. On the Duc I often wind it down to level 9 just to
check it is working before I get all funky with it
So the BB collective has decided Chris Harris will inevitably come off his snazzy new superbike. Let's hope it's just a little slip and not anything more serious.
Esceptico said:
they can be driven/ridden by those with very average or even less than average ability with no problems at all
RemaL said:
I have a test ride of the 1299 booked for tomorrow. Looking forward to it.
And strangely will be using Riders in bristol's 1299 bike for the test. Same place as chris bought his from
I got mine from there but it broke ( caught fire) as I left for the TT, so they lent me their demo to take, so 10/10 for that. Its a great bike but I was riding it at 7/10ths mostly. I found the Blade easier to tap into as the Paginale is so ferocious. Im still getting used to mine and I've had it for 4 months now.And strangely will be using Riders in bristol's 1299 bike for the test. Same place as chris bought his from
Obiwonkeyblokey said:
RemaL said:
I have a test ride of the 1299 booked for tomorrow. Looking forward to it.
And strangely will be using Riders in bristol's 1299 bike for the test. Same place as chris bought his from
I got mine form there but it broke ( caught fire) as IO left for the TT so they lent me their demo to take so 10/10 for that. Its a great bike but I was riding it at 7/10ths mostly. I found the blade easier to tap into as the paginate is so ferocious. Im still getting used to mine and I've had it for 4 months now.And strangely will be using Riders in bristol's 1299 bike for the test. Same place as chris bought his from
Having the bladde for the past 4 and a half years i have found it does everything I want.
I want to test ride the 1299 as it looks lovely. Ignoring the need for RAC cover on Ducati's I want to see what it's like compared to the blade.
As I am looking at getting a new bike next year the 1299 is on the list but so is the new R1 and also 1000.rr BM. Which I've not ridden since they first came out in 2010
gwm said:
So the BB collective has decided Chris Harris will inevitably come off his snazzy new superbike. Let's hope it's just a little slip and not anything more serious.
No, the conclusion is that if he doesn't come off it's because he doesn't have the experiences to use the bike to it's full potential and if he does comes off it's becaase he doesn't have the experience to use the bike to it's full potential.
CaptainSlow said:
gwm said:
So the BB collective has decided Chris Harris will inevitably come off his snazzy new superbike. Let's hope it's just a little slip and not anything more serious.
No, the conclusion is that if he doesn't come off it's because he doesn't have the experiences to use the bike to it's full potential and if he does comes off it's becaase he doesn't have the experience to use the bike to it's full potential.LoonR1 said:
I ink you're overplaying the value and impact of the electronic aids on modern bikes. They won't save you from yourself and they can't beat the laws of physics. They make some things easier, but also some stuff harder. I spent today at Donington in my roadbike to see how it compared to my trackbike and the TC was too intrusive and stopped the rear spinning when I actually wanted it to.
Either way, I'll guarantee that a well sorted bike will still scare you when you're doing 150 and are 100 yards from a brick wall directly in front of you
I'd agree with all of this, they're not going to save someone from going into a corner too hot, lowsiding etc.Either way, I'll guarantee that a well sorted bike will still scare you when you're doing 150 and are 100 yards from a brick wall directly in front of you
IIRC you've got an S1000RR?, I loved mine but found the same thing when I took it on a track, to a degree anyway, part of the problem, I thought anyway, is the lack of adjustability on it as you only get 4 preset modes from BMW, I did a track day on the RSV4 and as its adjustable I found it worked great on a low level.
I'd have thought the new S1000RR is similar now it has similar levels of adjustability.
SteveSteveson said:
Ye, that's what a lot of new riders with an attitude of "I have driven fast cars" or "its only as fast as you want to go" don't seem to realise. Fast bikes might be safer than they have ever been, but ultimately nothing but experience will prevent you from panicking when you go in to a corner a little to fast or highsideing by grabbing a handful of break when the back slips mid corner. No matter how much of a driving God you are and how good bikes are fast bikes can still bite and small bikes are much more forgiving.
He may be fine, but buying that bike is just willy waving, unless he has been riding a lot of miles on smaller bikes in the mean time. Saying "it feels safe" completely misses the point and the risk. No modern bike should feel unsafe or frightening under normal use. It's when things go wrong or you push it that shows what the bike is about.
Not a highside. That would end in the front locking and washing out, so more of a lowside. He may be fine, but buying that bike is just willy waving, unless he has been riding a lot of miles on smaller bikes in the mean time. Saying "it feels safe" completely misses the point and the risk. No modern bike should feel unsafe or frightening under normal use. It's when things go wrong or you push it that shows what the bike is about.
A highside is where the rear starts spinning with (virtually) zero traction, the rear suspension compresses fully, you shut the throttle naturally, it then grips and the suspension unloads launching you to the moon.
bass gt3 said:
CaptainSlow said:
gwm said:
So the BB collective has decided Chris Harris will inevitably come off his snazzy new superbike. Let's hope it's just a little slip and not anything more serious.
No, the conclusion is that if he doesn't come off it's because he doesn't have the experiences to use the bike to it's full potential and if he does comes off it's becaase he doesn't have the experience to use the bike to it's full potential.Edited by s3fella on Thursday 27th August 11:05
s3fella said:
bass gt3 said:
CaptainSlow said:
gwm said:
So the BB collective has decided Chris Harris will inevitably come off his snazzy new superbike. Let's hope it's just a little slip and not anything more serious.
No, the conclusion is that if he doesn't come off it's because he doesn't have the experiences to use the bike to it's full potential and if he does comes off it's becaase he doesn't have the experience to use the bike to it's full potential.But I don't get this fascination with Harris? He bought a bike, and so??
Fact is pretty much any bike is a doddle to ride. They are only dangerous when you act like a t
t. and you can do that on a 50 ( I have the scars!)and in truth, if you were to put a numpty on any bike, the modern bikes with all their electronics are probably as safe as it gets. But as Loon says, they don't bend the laws of physics. s
t can go wrong very very quickly. And it's the speed or the acceleration that catches most newbies out. They get a rabbit freeze on as their brain struggles to deal with a full bore acceleration. 
Biker's Nemesis said:
bass gt3 said:
LoonR1 said:
I'm surprised we haven't fully explored the "I've got an old bike and am therefore a better rider than you over there with a new bike with all these electronic gizmos" angle.
we can..Who'll lead us off......
moanthebairns said:
I don't get Harris mania, but why doesn't he post on here now he's fked off to do some other st that ill never read nor watch. Surely he should be joining the clan.
I suspect it makes him 'edgy" having a 1299S while his adoring fans and acolytes watch on. Why come to a place where people actually ride?? Where's the upside for him and his self marketing??ked off to do some other st that ill never read nor watch. Surely he should be joining the clan. Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff