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Whoever you are, if you read this, go buy a lottery ticket. You and your pillion nearly had a head on collision with my car today on the Northumberland Coast road near Embleton.
You might be stupid enough to overtake a vehicle on a blind corner, guessing that nothing is coming, but I'm pretty sure your pillion wouldn't thank you for scattering her body parts all over the place.
You are a tool, and if you survived the rest of your trip to read this, well done. Sell the bike and take up walking you moron.
You might be stupid enough to overtake a vehicle on a blind corner, guessing that nothing is coming, but I'm pretty sure your pillion wouldn't thank you for scattering her body parts all over the place.
You are a tool, and if you survived the rest of your trip to read this, well done. Sell the bike and take up walking you moron.
crofty1984 said:
Yeah, that was me. Bit of a close shave there, wasn't it? Still, no harm done!
Fair play for owning up, respect for that, but seriously, you nearly became part of my windscreen mate. If I'd been there a half second earlier there would have been a collision, no doubt whatsoever. It's a great road, I know it well, there are plenty of nice stretches to get past the traffic. no need to take those chances, it's just not worth it. Be safe. 
soofsayer said:
crofty1984 said:
Yeah, that was me. Bit of a close shave there, wasn't it? Still, no harm done!
Fair play for owning up, respect for that, but seriously, you nearly became part of my windscreen mate. If I'd been there a half second earlier there would have been a collision, no doubt whatsoever. It's a great road, I know it well, there are plenty of nice stretches to get past the traffic. no need to take those chances, it's just not worth it. Be safe. LoonR1 said:
soofsayer said:
crofty1984 said:
Yeah, that was me. Bit of a close shave there, wasn't it? Still, no harm done!
Fair play for owning up, respect for that, but seriously, you nearly became part of my windscreen mate. If I'd been there a half second earlier there would have been a collision, no doubt whatsoever. It's a great road, I know it well, there are plenty of nice stretches to get past the traffic. no need to take those chances, it's just not worth it. Be safe. 
Everyone makes mistakes OP... he probably had eyes like saucers and will be jet washing his pants out.
Well done for not collecting the said numpty. If like me you see this kind of stuff I reduce my speed dramatically and make an escape route if possible. If you did this then your probably helped them survive an obvious error in judgement.
I have had it the other way around where vehicles have haired around a blind corner or crest in both lanes obviously racing each other. Its not nice.
I met a biker at CSS some years ago who was just coming back from a massive head on when two cars were occupying both lanes racing each other. He went over the top and they left him there to effectively die.
He was lucky not to have a double arm amputation.
Well done for not collecting the said numpty. If like me you see this kind of stuff I reduce my speed dramatically and make an escape route if possible. If you did this then your probably helped them survive an obvious error in judgement.
I have had it the other way around where vehicles have haired around a blind corner or crest in both lanes obviously racing each other. Its not nice.
I met a biker at CSS some years ago who was just coming back from a massive head on when two cars were occupying both lanes racing each other. He went over the top and they left him there to effectively die.
He was lucky not to have a double arm amputation.
Edited by Renn Sport on Friday 28th August 10:22
I very much doubt the biker did it deliberately. He made a mistake, misjudged a corner and nearly paid a very high price for it. Sure it scared the OP as I'm sure it did the rider (and the pillion), but I don't understand what the OP hopes to achieve by posting on here. Perhaps the OP is perfect and never makes mistakes!
black-k1 said:
I very much doubt the biker did it deliberately. He made a mistake, misjudged a corner and nearly paid a very high price for it. Sure it scared the OP as I'm sure it did the rider (and the pillion), but I don't understand what the OP hopes to achieve by posting on here. Perhaps the OP is perfect and never makes mistakes!
I agree to an extent, but there does seem to be an increase in these incidents. I was nearly taken out a few weeks back out on a ride with hebegb when a rider on an older bike (something from the 80s) forced me to correct my line near enough into the kerb to my left to avoid him. He wasn't going that fast either, but his eyes were as wide as Silverstone and he showed few signs of slowing down after it, as there was no brake light showing. LoonR1 said:
black-k1 said:
I very much doubt the biker did it deliberately. He made a mistake, misjudged a corner and nearly paid a very high price for it. Sure it scared the OP as I'm sure it did the rider (and the pillion), but I don't understand what the OP hopes to achieve by posting on here. Perhaps the OP is perfect and never makes mistakes!
I agree to an extent, but there does seem to be an increase in these incidents. I was nearly taken out a few weeks back out on a ride with hebegb when a rider on an older bike (something from the 80s) forced me to correct my line near enough into the kerb to my left to avoid him. He wasn't going that fast either, but his eyes were as wide as Silverstone and he showed few signs of slowing down after it, as there was no brake light showing. Is it not still you born about biker lot that are the high risk group? Disposable income, angry with the world, think they know everything cos they've made it to 45 without killing themselves, etc
Unless biker deaths/ accidents have gone up, I'd say this sort of stuff has always happened. Just because you rode a bike in the 80s and think it is worse now doesn't mean that's the case.
Unless biker deaths/ accidents have gone up, I'd say this sort of stuff has always happened. Just because you rode a bike in the 80s and think it is worse now doesn't mean that's the case.
winbar said:
I can`t see how overtaking someone on a blind corner is a mistake. I reckon it`s bad `roadcraft`
For clarity, I'm not defending the biker, and I totally agree it's very poor roadcraft but, have you never made a manoeuvre, possibly while carrying a little too much speed and not focusing on the things you really should be focussing on, only to find yourself in one of those "oh s
t!" moments? I know I have! I wasn't there so I don't know but I expect the biker did exactly that. Got caught up in the thrill of the moment, made a bad call and suddenly realised he'd made a potentially very expensive mistake. It's through such lessons that we learn to improve our riding and to understand why roadcraft is so important. The OP should be grateful he's had the opportunity to provide such a learning opportunity! 
black-k1 said:
winbar said:
I can`t see how overtaking someone on a blind corner is a mistake. I reckon it`s bad `roadcraft`
For clarity, I'm not defending the biker, and I totally agree it's very poor roadcraft but, have you never made a manoeuvre, possibly while carrying a little too much speed and not focusing on the things you really should be focussing on, only to find yourself in one of those "oh st!" moments? I know I have! I wasn't there so I don't know but I expect the biker did exactly that. Got caught up in the thrill of the moment, made a bad call and suddenly realised he'd made a potentially very expensive mistake. It's through such lessons that we learn to improve our riding and to understand why roadcraft is so important. The OP should be grateful he's had the opportunity to provide such a learning opportunity! t" moments but I`ve never overtaken someone on a blind bend. winbar said:
black-k1 said:
winbar said:
I can`t see how overtaking someone on a blind corner is a mistake. I reckon it`s bad `roadcraft`
For clarity, I'm not defending the biker, and I totally agree it's very poor roadcraft but, have you never made a manoeuvre, possibly while carrying a little too much speed and not focusing on the things you really should be focussing on, only to find yourself in one of those "oh st!" moments? I know I have! I wasn't there so I don't know but I expect the biker did exactly that. Got caught up in the thrill of the moment, made a bad call and suddenly realised he'd made a potentially very expensive mistake. It's through such lessons that we learn to improve our riding and to understand why roadcraft is so important. The OP should be grateful he's had the opportunity to provide such a learning opportunity! t" moments but I`ve never overtaken someone on a blind bend. gwm said:
Is it not still you born about biker lot that are the high risk group? Disposable income, angry with the world, think they know everything cos they've made it to 45 without killing themselves, etc
Unless biker deaths/ accidents have gone up, I'd say this sort of stuff has always happened. Just because you rode a bike in the 80s and think it is worse now doesn't mean that's the case.
....did you really write that Gareth ....seriously...? No element of a smiley "emoji" ...? ( I am guessing that you actually meant "born AGAIN biker lot"....Unless biker deaths/ accidents have gone up, I'd say this sort of stuff has always happened. Just because you rode a bike in the 80s and think it is worse now doesn't mean that's the case.
A rather naive and perhaps somewhat disrespectful outburst on your part to some unknown and some known parties to you, with a suggestion or assumption ( you know what this can lead to) on experience, length of time riding , mindset, on a very generalised and sweeping basis regarding age of the rider etc etc.......some of whom have even given , or indeed tried to give you some assistance,help/advice along the way.
The OP , Soofsayer , is a family man, a tad younger than myself , a tad older than you no doubt , with two young children and one of the most sedate , decent , cultured and thoughtful people I have ever met, who has had a schooling in motorcycling involving test pass, IAM road qualification , CSS track training and varied other forms of training ,official and unofficial as we all often do in various ways. Having ridden with him on the road and track , may I say he is far safer , smoother , thoughtful and road aware than pretty well anybody else I have ever ridden with and errs on the side of caution everywhere - the complete anithesis of your stereotype .
I imagine - no, in fact I know, because he then went on to explain - it will probably do no good, but he feels better by venting his spleen on here about a near serious incident involving seriously poor and dangerous road riding in a situation where ,yes, mistakes happen , however , what sort of mistake have you not brought about on yourself whereby you put you and a pillion and the oncoming driver in a near fatality situation by rounding a blind bend on the wrong side of the road ?
To turn this around on the OP and criticise ( generally ) him and others of perhaps a similar age group , a similar social standing and to then guess at their level of experience / mindset , is frankly absurd.
Ps : I was not angry with the world when I had to undertake you on the A1(M) on the way back from Snetterton earlier this year as you were sat in the middle lane in your hire van......just you.., !
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