40mph 200 yard long chain of Harley riding w*nkers

40mph 200 yard long chain of Harley riding w*nkers

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2013BRM

39,731 posts

283 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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I really can't get my head around the 'uniform' that still pervades the marque, been into HDs most of my life and have one now but never felt the need to look like a HA pastiche

soad

32,829 posts

175 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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That lot love the open road, riding with friends, seeking out new places and hanging about in biker-friendly establishments. wink

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Silver993tt said:
mybrainhurts said:
Many times I've been overtaken in the Peak District, then held up by the clowns when I'm in a hurry.

What's wrong with these bikers?
you were overtaken in the first place, so you were holding up the bikes in that case. You are exactly the same.
I was expecting a biker to come along with a bucket of assumption and you're it, well done.

You've probably noticed that your bikes have considerably more poke than your average fast car. I can't accelerate away from an uphill hairpin as fast as a bike and I can't take two cars in front of me in such a short distance as a bike. In these circumstances, they're on the throttle and away then, when I've stoked the coals and got the motor up to speed, these tozers lift off and sit on the white line in front of me, thus holding me up.

Low gear heroes. Pain in the arse.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

189 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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I had the misfortune to be in Aviemore the same time as these tossers today. Most seems oblivious to their own inept parking, riding, and lack of signalling.

I had one up my chuff in the single lane average speed A9. He then undertook a queue of traffic as we attempted to overtake slower moving vehicles in the short dual carriageway section. He gesticulated I was a wker for reasons I assume are centred around his own confusion.

I then overtook him. In a 10 year old diesel Ford C-Max.

Then later he passed me again in a very poor overtake leaving insufficient space, I decided I would actually confront him. Sadly I never had the chance as he turned off.

The standard of riding was very poor and these acts of aggression make me ashamed to be grouped together as a motorcyclist. These guys need some perspective, most of them are objectively not 'hard' they're fat middle aged men with fantasies of being in a gang. It's pathetic and cringe worthy.

Biker's Nemesis

38,536 posts

207 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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moto_traxport

4,235 posts

220 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
I was expecting a biker to come along with a bucket of assumption and you're it, well done.

You've probably noticed that your bikes have considerably more poke than your average fast car. I can't accelerate away from an uphill hairpin as fast as a bike and I can't take two cars in front of me in such a short distance as a bike. In these circumstances, they're on the throttle and away then, when I've stoked the coals and got the motor up to speed, these tozers lift off and sit on the white line in front of me, thus holding me up.

Low gear heroes. Pain in the arse.
Normally I'm against group riding Harleys (see my previous post) but the other side of the coin with a car vs. a bike ridden 'normally' is that your car's poor acceleration means a bike might nip past and then tootle along at the legal speed limit only to find the car is then sat on their numberplate - frothing car bloke thinks he's in a "race", biker is thinking about what's for tea.

Esceptico

7,334 posts

108 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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When I have been in Scotand and Wales on driving trips the bikers can generally be divided into two groups: the fast bikers, who I pull over and let pass (however hard I push the car as soon as there is traffic I can't get past as quickly (yet safely) as on a bike). The fast bikes I don't see again unless they have stopped or have turned around and are heading back towards me.

The second group of bikers can be a bit of a pain. You catch them up but it is difficult to get past because of their superior power to weight on the straights. Once you get past you often run into traffic and then the bikers catch you up - and if you (correctly) hang back a bit to sight an overtake of the car in front, the bikers behind move into the gap you've left. Once you finally get past the cars you catch up with the bikes and it all starts again.

Much prefer the first type of bikers.

Of course even better being on a bike myself!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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moto_traxport said:
mybrainhurts said:
I was expecting a biker to come along with a bucket of assumption and you're it, well done.

You've probably noticed that your bikes have considerably more poke than your average fast car. I can't accelerate away from an uphill hairpin as fast as a bike and I can't take two cars in front of me in such a short distance as a bike. In these circumstances, they're on the throttle and away then, when I've stoked the coals and got the motor up to speed, these tozers lift off and sit on the white line in front of me, thus holding me up.

Low gear heroes. Pain in the arse.
Normally I'm against group riding Harleys (see my previous post) but the other side of the coin with a car vs. a bike ridden 'normally' is that your car's poor acceleration means a bike might nip past and then tootle along at the legal speed limit only to find the car is then sat on their numberplate - frothing car bloke thinks he's in a "race", biker is thinking about what's for tea.
"In a race"? Me? No, I'm on my normal route, trying to get somewhere at my normal hurry pace and biker is holding me up after overtaking me.

If he does it when I'm not in a hurry, it's not a problem.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Esceptico said:
When I have been in Scotand and Wales on driving trips the bikers can generally be divided into two groups: the fast bikers, who I pull over and let pass (however hard I push the car as soon as there is traffic I can't get past as quickly (yet safely) as on a bike). The fast bikes I don't see again unless they have stopped or have turned around and are heading back towards me.

The second group of bikers can be a bit of a pain. You catch them up but it is difficult to get past because of their superior power to weight on the straights. Once you get past you often run into traffic and then the bikers catch you up - and if you (correctly) hang back a bit to sight an overtake of the car in front, the bikers behind move into the gap you've left. Once you finally get past the cars you catch up with the bikes and it all starts again.

Much prefer the first type of bikers.

Of course even better being on a bike myself!
You should know not to pull over when a bike catches up. There's nothing worse than getting blasted with all the crap from the inside of the road that you flick up in the car, also slowing down is a no-no. I try to gauge an overtake a long way ahead and there's nothing worse than a car suddenly slowing down and moving over forcing a potentially unsafe pass.

Esceptico

7,334 posts

108 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
You should know not to pull over when a bike catches up. There's nothing worse than getting blasted with all the crap from the inside of the road that you flick up in the car, also slowing down is a no-no. I try to gauge an overtake a long way ahead and there's nothing worse than a car suddenly slowing down and moving over forcing a potentially unsafe pass.
You seem to like making up facts and scenarios and then arguing against them.

When I said move over did I say I was driving in the gutter? Did I say I slowed down massively?

If I am driving quickly without traffic in front I tend to use all the road, including the right hand lane where appropriate. If a biker came up fast behind me (can't recall it happening) I would help them get past, rather than make them do a dodgy overtake. What the fk is wrong with that?

If I am stuck behind a car and I see a group of fast bikers come up behind me then I make it easy for them to get past me and let them take the car in front of me before I do my overtake. Are you saying you would rather that I ignored the bikers and try to do my overtake first?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
I try to gauge an overtake a long way ahead and there's nothing worse than a car suddenly slowing down and moving over forcing a potentially unsafe pass.
Nothing worse? You live a charmed life for sure.

I'm interested how someone can force an overtake, do these driver have guns pointed at you?

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Esceptico said:
You seem to like making up facts and scenarios and then arguing against them.

When I said move over did I say I was driving in the gutter? Did I say I slowed down massively?

If I am driving quickly without traffic in front I tend to use all the road, including the right hand lane where appropriate. If a biker came up fast behind me (can't recall it happening) I would help them get past, rather than make them do a dodgy overtake. What the fk is wrong with that?

If I am stuck behind a car and I see a group of fast bikers come up behind me then I make it easy for them to get past me and let them take the car in front of me before I do my overtake. Are you saying you would rather that I ignored the bikers and try to do my overtake first?
First off, it was a point around people "moving over" which you admit to doing. The moment you move over onto a bit of infrequently used road it flicks up all sorts of st behind you. The slowing down wasn't aimed at you, but if the cap fits, then have a good cry.

Mr2Mike said:
Nothing worse? You live a charmed life for sure.

I'm interested how someone can force an overtake, do these driver have guns pointed at you?
If someone halves their speed right in front of you, then short of doing the same then it's a forced overtake. Do you get a hard on following me around? If so, then let's meet up and you can follow me round in public, whilst I point and laugh at you being such a sad tosser.

Esceptico

7,334 posts

108 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
If someone halves their speed right in front of you, then short of doing the same then it's a forced overtake.
Not sure where you are riding but I've not come across many roads which turn into dirt tracks as soon as you move away from the centre line (if I am riding down such roads then I would be very cautious about overtaking in any case ). More importantly, if you about to overtake someone why are you riding behind a car's nearside wheel? And if there is st in the road that the nearside wheel is throwing up and it is in your path then aren't you riding over that st?


rallycross

12,747 posts

236 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Sounds like a big gay 2 wheeled carnival

toxgobbler

2,903 posts

190 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Genius.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Esceptico said:
Not sure where you are riding but I've not come across many roads which turn into dirt tracks as soon as you move away from the centre line (if I am riding down such roads then I would be very cautious about overtaking in any case ). More importantly, if you about to overtake someone why are you riding behind a car's nearside wheel? And if there is st in the road that the nearside wheel is throwing up and it is in your path then aren't you riding over that st?
Are you really being serious? The near side is full of crap on most roads, even small stones can do a lot of damage. As for the comment about being right on their nearside wheel, then you're just being deliberately obtuse now. Wheels do not throw debris out in a pure linear fashion, they spray it out, as it catches on the rear wheel arch and underside of the car on its way out, bigger stones can bounce up off the road and kerb too in a non linear almost chaotic way. I don't ride on the nearside, I ride 2/3rds of the way across my lane.

i don't know why I'm even justifying this to you. You accuse me of saying things that aren't there and then promptly write st like the quoted post.

theshrew

6,008 posts

183 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Esceptico said:
Not sure where you are riding but I've not come across many roads which turn into dirt tracks as soon as you move away from the centre line (if I am riding down such roads then I would be very cautious about overtaking in any case ). More importantly, if you about to overtake someone why are you riding behind a car's nearside wheel? And if there is st in the road that the nearside wheel is throwing up and it is in your path then aren't you riding over that st?
Are you really being serious? The near side is full of crap on most roads, even small stones can do a lot of damage. As for the comment about being right on their nearside wheel, then you're just being deliberately obtuse now. Wheels do not throw debris out in a pure linear fashion, they spray it out, as it catches on the rear wheel arch and underside of the car on its way out, bigger stones can bounce up off the road and kerb too in a non linear almost chaotic way. I don't ride on the nearside, I ride 2/3rds of the way across my lane.

i don't know why I'm even justifying this to you. You accuse me of saying things that aren't there and then promptly write st like the quoted post.
Before I started riding id always pull to the side and let bikes get on with it.

Since I now ride people who do this piss me right off. Although they are trying to be nice and let you get on with it, I even find it refreshing to see drivers who actually know what's going on around them ( thumbs up for that )

I don't want my bike covered in stone chips, to be hit by stones myself or to be riding through a big cloud of dust the car has just thrown up.





HD Adam

5,144 posts

183 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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toxgobbler said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Genius.
Hey, mine does at least 86mph. Probably.

Can't go that fast obviously in case my Capn Jack Sparrow outfit gets blown away biggrin

spikey78

701 posts

180 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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That Harvey engine noise tho.. fking hideous

Moulder

1,463 posts

211 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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HD Adam said:
toxgobbler said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Genius.
Hey, mine does at least 86mph. Probably.

Can't go that fast obviously in case my Capn Jack Sparrow outfit gets blown away biggrin
A lot of people complain about how rubbish BB is these days, but both these posts remind me why I still come on here.