40mph 200 yard long chain of Harley riding w*nkers

[Esceptico]

[quote=LoonR1]


i don't know why I'm even justifying this to you. You accuse me of saying things that aren't there and then promptly write st like the quoted post. [/quo

This comment is very ironic as this spat was started by you doing exactly that on my post. I wrote that I "moved over" - which simply meant position myself more towards the left, and you took that and jumped down my throat for the imagined offence of driving on the verge or gutter.

I use all the road when riding and I am often riding a foot or so from the left hand side of the road (of course only if there is no crap there), on right hand curves and bends. In my experience the road surface is usually okay because it gets cleaned by car tyres. The worst place I find for stones and st accumulating is in the middle of the carriageway (between the tyres track of cars). Perhaps what you have experienced is not st being thrown up by the nearside tyre but the offside as it runs over the crap in the middle of the road.

[crossy67]

In France every car pulls over to the side. Maybe the foot out thing is a threat "I'm gonna kick your cheese in" sort of thing!

Personally I appreciate it even if I cant take advantage of their position at least it indicates to me they have seen me and are aware that I am there and will be passing soon. Never have I been showered with any more debris from this move, and that is on rural French roads which are generally crap.

[NNK]

I always pull over if I see a bike coming up behind me and appreciate it when car drivers do if I am riding. I cant see why anyone would moan about a car pulling over.
Back on topic, the only time I ever see a mob of Harleys is when the local bike gang have something on and they make reasonable progress when out.

[croyde]

Same here. Always pull over even if it's just a foot. Tells the bike I've seen him.

I appreciate it when I'm on my bike if the car driver does the same.

[egor110]

woowahwoo said:

Gusto said:

Thank fk we're not all the same, eh? There would be nothing to vent on the net about.

Just so I can keep up, am I missing anyone we all hate?

Harley riders
Push-cyclists
Car drivers
Lorries
Power Rangers
Horse riders
Taxi drivers

some hondas, most ducatis, nearly all gs', all streetfighters; wrong kit, some kit, no kit etc...?

over weight middle aged men who think there riding gods because they have the money to buy a fast bike and there full rep rossi hekmet and leathers gives them extra skills.

[Silver993tt]

egor110 said:

over weight middle aged men who think there riding gods because they have the money to buy a fast bike and there full rep rossi hekmet and leathers gives them extra skills.

or maybe they simply like the bike they buy and the kit also? They can afford it, so there seems to be some jealousy here. Good for them if they can afford nice gear & bikes.

[mygoldfishbowl]

Gusto said:

Thank fk we're not all the same, eh? There would be nothing to vent on the net about.

Just so I can keep up, am I missing anyone we all hate?

Harley riders
Push-cyclists
Car drivers
Lorries
Power Rangers
Horse riders
Taxi drivers

Carol Vorderman.

[LoonR1]

egor110 said:

over weight middle aged men who think there riding gods because they have the money to buy a fast bike and there full rep rossi hekmet and leathers gives them extra skills.

[evoivboy]

anything to do with this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0y9SItgnwE

[tvrolet]

poing said:

I'm guessing they will travelling to Thunder in the Glens, this weekend every year. I avoid that area for the weekend.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-is...
http://www.motorcyclescotland.com/event/thunder-gl...

Organised by this lot:
http://www.dunedinhog.com/(S(bf2bi4r3nfsnubfousinr...

Massive overdose of leather, facial hair and beer bellies. Not a pretty site and once you've heard one Harley they all sound the same.

I was up at that with the Mrs; and not all Harleys - we had the only Indian there That would have made a different sound for you I guess. As would the V-rods, BMWs, Hondas, Yamahas etc., but yes it was indeed primarily a Harley event.

Lots of leather, some facial hair, and beer bellies. BUT, also an amazingly enjoyable weekend. My wife has really just 'tolerated' my biking antics over the past 40 years but she really enjoyed this.

I've been to many biker events over the years from camping-in-a-field kind of piss-up rallies as a yoof, races, one-make meets, runs, shows, ride-outs etc., and whatever else you may say this has to be one of the friendliest and enjoyable events around. Absolutely no animosity even strutting the only Indian tee (and jacket ...I am a fully paid-up fan-boy after all) amongst wall-to-wall Harley gear. Everyone I met very friendly and welcoming...and that was loads of folks in the bar, at the concerts, at stands, on the ride-out, the hotel (we don't slum-it at our age now) etc.

However, what was clear was the average age was...let's just say 'well into middle age'. And sadly I'm in that category too now I think the young-gun power-rangers need to see these sort of things for what they are. It's a whole older demographic. As a yoof I thought I'd always be the proud owner of 'the fastest bike in town' in the years to come. But it doesn't work like that. Of all the mad-keen bikers I rode with as a teen/20-year old, not one now rides at all. Sure someone's going to pitch up and say 'my mate is 75 years old, and he pulls wheelies on the M1 at 100mph'. But most young sports bikers don't end up as old sports bikers. It's just how it is. My wife certainly wouldn't get on the back of a 'sports bike' these days (and hasn't the past 30-odd years), but was happy to do 400 miles on the Indian.

The ride-out is actually an amazing experience. It's essentially a loooong parade and not a run, but it brings so much pleasure to so many folks. The roads are lined with families, kids, old folks, young folks, all out waving and generally just having fun watching it; it's a day-out just to watch. Whole villages and wee towns come to a stop and get the bunting out. I was really touched at one point where we passed a young lad who was clearly disabled but was just absolutely ecstatic to see all the bikes. Even passing cottages in the back of beyond. folks had got granny out in her wheelchair at her garden gate to wave at the bikes. I've got to think this does a huge boost for the image of biking in the whole Speyside area. And it's clear just joining in is bringing a lot of pleasure to a lot of people; not to mention business to the area.

Don't knock it until a) you've tried it, and b) you've tried it at...well...a certain age, and c) you've tried it with the Mrs in tow. Assuming we're not pushing up daisies by then, we'll be back up next year.

[Sushifiend]

mygoldfishbowl said:

Carol Vorderman.

Are you nuts?

[monamimate]

tvrolet said:

poing said:

I'm guessing they will travelling to Thunder in the Glens, this weekend every year. I avoid that area for the weekend.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-is...
http://www.motorcyclescotland.com/event/thunder-gl...

Organised by this lot:
http://www.dunedinhog.com/(S(bf2bi4r3nfsnubfousinr...

Massive overdose of leather, facial hair and beer bellies. Not a pretty site and once you've heard one Harley they all sound the same.

I was up at that with the Mrs; and not all Harleys - we had the only Indian there That would have made a different sound for you I guess. As would the V-rods, BMWs, Hondas, Yamahas etc., but yes it was indeed primarily a Harley event.

Lots of leather, some facial hair, and beer bellies. BUT, also an amazingly enjoyable weekend. My wife has really just 'tolerated' my biking antics over the past 40 years but she really enjoyed this.

I've been to many biker events over the years from camping-in-a-field kind of piss-up rallies as a yoof, races, one-make meets, runs, shows, ride-outs etc., and whatever else you may say this has to be one of the friendliest and enjoyable events around. Absolutely no animosity even strutting the only Indian tee (and jacket ...I am a fully paid-up fan-boy after all) amongst wall-to-wall Harley gear. Everyone I met very friendly and welcoming...and that was loads of folks in the bar, at the concerts, at stands, on the ride-out, the hotel (we don't slum-it at our age now) etc.

However, what was clear was the average age was...let's just say 'well into middle age'. And sadly I'm in that category too now I think the young-gun power-rangers need to see these sort of things for what they are. It's a whole older demographic. As a yoof I thought I'd always be the proud owner of 'the fastest bike in town' in the years to come. But it doesn't work like that. Of all the mad-keen bikers I rode with as a teen/20-year old, not one now rides at all. Sure someone's going to pitch up and say 'my mate is 75 years old, and he pulls wheelies on the M1 at 100mph'. But most young sports bikers don't end up as old sports bikers. It's just how it is. My wife certainly wouldn't get on the back of a 'sports bike' these days (and hasn't the past 30-odd years), but was happy to do 400 miles on the Indian.

The ride-out is actually an amazing experience. It's essentially a loooong parade and not a run, but it brings so much pleasure to so many folks. The roads are lined with families, kids, old folks, young folks, all out waving and generally just having fun watching it; it's a day-out just to watch. Whole villages and wee towns come to a stop and get the bunting out. I was really touched at one point where we passed a young lad who was clearly disabled but was just absolutely ecstatic to see all the bikes. Even passing cottages in the back of beyond. folks had got granny out in her wheelchair at her garden gate to wave at the bikes. I've got to think this does a huge boost for the image of biking in the whole Speyside area. And it's clear just joining in is bringing a lot of pleasure to a lot of people; not to mention business to the area.

Don't knock it until a) you've tried it, and b) you've tried it at...well...a certain age, and c) you've tried it with the Mrs in tow. Assuming we're not pushing up daisies by then, we'll be back up next year.

I don't think it's just an age-related thing at all. You just either like this sort of thing or you don't.

I used to ride sports bikes with my mates. They have indeed all moved onto more "sensible" machinery (mostly naked bikes for the more upright position), but none, not one, has decided it's time to ride at 40mph with 100 other bikers to go to a tea-room somewhere.

Our perception (which one may or may not agree with) was/is that biking provides the freedom to move along roads and through traffic at the speed one chooses (within the law and respecting other road users blablabla), and that has not changed with age. Riding in a group defeats that purpose.

[egor110]

egor110 said:

woowahwoo said:

Gusto said:

Thank fk we're not all the same, eh? There would be nothing to vent on the net about.

Just so I can keep up, am I missing anyone we all hate?

Harley riders
Push-cyclists
Car drivers
Lorries
Power Rangers
Horse riders
Taxi drivers

some hondas, most ducatis, nearly all gs', all streetfighters; wrong kit, some kit, no kit etc...?

over weight middle aged men who think there riding gods because they have the money to buy a fast bike and there full rep rossi hekmet and leathers gives them extra skills.

trikes

[tvrolet]

monamimate said:

I don't think it's just an age-related thing at all. You just either like this sort of thing or you don't.

I used to ride sports bikes with my mates. They have indeed all moved onto more "sensible" machinery (mostly naked bikes for the more upright position), but none, not one, has decided it's time to ride at 40mph with 100 other bikers to go to a tea-room somewhere.

Our perception (which one may or may not agree with) was/is that biking provides the freedom to move along roads and through traffic at the speed one chooses (within the law and respecting other road users blablabla), and that has not changed with age. Riding in a group defeats that purpose.

I was just 'sticking up' for the Thunder in the Glens event, which I thing is a really enjoyable weekend - albeit mostly older folks attending. And while it does have a 'ride-out' it's hardly comparable to a 'run'; it's more of a parade. And it only happens once a year, and doesn't end in a tea-room.

I'm not defending folks going to a tea-room at 40...but does anyone actually do that? On my travels it seems far more likely to meet sports bikers travelling in packs; most of the 'touring' riders (and in that I include Harleys) I see are riding alone...which is what I do for most of the other 362 days of the year.

[Prof Prolapse]

I've been caught in Aviemore during the Thunder in the Glens event three times.

My conclusion is they're almost all old men who can barely operate a motorcycle, who try and dress the same for reasons that only a 14 year old girl would understand. I imagine many have been bullied, and have a desperate need to try and be part of a group because of a history of social alienation. They don't drink in tea rooms, as they need to keep up the pretense of being "hard" or worse still, "fun", so drink ales until they fall asleep or rev their st sounding bikes, before waking up and vomiting publicly outside the supermarket.

They bring in money to the area however, and aside from some very inconsiderate riding, are pretty harmless.

[moanthebairns]

Sushifiend said:

mygoldfishbowl said:

Carol Vorderman.

Are you nuts?

She could manage my endowment, that will be a big one from the top please carol and two wee ones.

[monamimate]

tvrolet said:

monamimate said:

I don't think it's just an age-related thing at all. You just either like this sort of thing or you don't.

I used to ride sports bikes with my mates. They have indeed all moved onto more "sensible" machinery (mostly naked bikes for the more upright position), but none, not one, has decided it's time to ride at 40mph with 100 other bikers to go to a tea-room somewhere.

Our perception (which one may or may not agree with) was/is that biking provides the freedom to move along roads and through traffic at the speed one chooses (within the law and respecting other road users blablabla), and that has not changed with age. Riding in a group defeats that purpose.

I was just 'sticking up' for the Thunder in the Glens event, which I thing is a really enjoyable weekend - albeit mostly older folks attending. And while it does have a 'ride-out' it's hardly comparable to a 'run'; it's more of a parade. And it only happens once a year, and doesn't end in a tea-room.

I'm not defending folks going to a tea-room at 40...but does anyone actually do that? On my travels it seems far more likely to meet sports bikers travelling in packs; most of the 'touring' riders (and in that I include Harleys) I see are riding alone...which is what I do for most of the other 362 days of the year.

No problem and no need to defend - each to his own. I was merely suggesting that age was not the deciding factor in this kind of group activity (as you said - you've been doing this kind of thing for years). And by group, I am referring to these really large groups, often managed by a front and rear rider, riding at very low speeds. I'm not talking about a small bunch of mates riding out together (on whatever kind of bikes).

As for the tea-room, I was of course teasing a little.

[moanthebairns]

I drove in the direction of rain to avoid it at the weekend and I’m 28. fk going near the hardly desirables. That said all bikers are generally wkers.

I met 3 sports bike riders, all blazoned with anodised tat, shouting in an empty car park about their near misses and how brave they are.

Adventure riders who I thought were meant to be pretty handy in the pissing rain, or at least the bikes are why would you get one if not. I must have overtaken a dozen yesterday on a fireblade in the pissing rain wearing a one piece.

lets face it, the only reason we aren't hated is because a new trend is sweeping the nation. Its called mamils, you hit 40, go fk I'm unfit I'm going to die in 20 years I better do something about it, you go out buy hideous lycra fashioned cycle suits and piss about country roads generally getting on everyone's tits whilst you feel the need to talk to your mate as you ride 2 a breast. They are the scum of the earth, I love push bikes, off road, but why you'd chose to pan your in on roads bikes weren't meant for is beyond me. kill them all.

[monamimate]

moanthebairns said:

I must have overtaken a dozen yesterday on a fireblade.

12 people on a Fireblade? Did you get a photo for the Guinness Book of Records?

[Sushifiend]

moanthebairns said:

Its called mamils, you hit 40, go fk I'm unfit I'm going to die in 20 years I better do something about it, you go out buy hideous lycra fashioned cycle suits and piss about country roads generally getting on everyone's tits whilst you feel the need to talk to your mate as you ride 2 a breast.

Jeez, I'm 40 and if I die in 20 years I'm calling that a pretty good innings!