When a simple job just doesn't work out

When a simple job just doesn't work out

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LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Prof Prolapse said:
Loon always gets a hard time for this but I think he is on to something. Next riding season I'm going to buy a newer bike and let some other fker work on it.

I've kidded myself for years I enjoy it, but like most people I've actually just preserved because of poverty. There's a million things I'd rather be doing. Including riding the damn thing.

Finally, I get the recognition I deserve

moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Loon always gets a hard time for this but I think he is on to something. Next riding season I'm going to buy a newer bike and let some other fker work on it.

I've kidded myself for years I enjoy it, but like most people I've actually just preserved because of poverty. There's a million things I'd rather be doing. Including riding the damn thing.


I'd agree. Well with cars. I can do most of the work I get down I choose not to as it's too much of a ball ache.

However it does fk you off when you tell them what's wrong, get a part ordered in and they ignore your opinion only to go back with the same fault and them go yeah it was that.
Finally, I get the recognition I deserve

creampuff

6,511 posts

144 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Baryonyx said:
fking stuff
Tell me about it. I spent about 6 hours this weekend just replacing a single toilet seat.

kev b

2,715 posts

167 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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As opposed to a double toilet seat or pillion toilet seat?

moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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kev b said:
As opposed to a double toilet seat or pillion toilet seat?
I dunno why I laughed but I did

Baryonyx

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17,998 posts

160 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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It's off to Triumph in the morning. I went down earlier and secured the light as best I could (gaffer taped the wire under tension at the back of the fitting on the inside of the fairing). It looks like it'll keep the light in a reasonable position for the trip in. I'll be setting off around 9AM and no doubt the roads will still be full of feckless commuters and school run mothers, so I'll be taking my time and heading along the Central Motorway for Triumph to simplify the route. Then for a walk into town to get my haircut, and hopefully back shortly afterwards to collect the bike and head home. Fingers crossed it all goes well as I quite fancy using it for the nightshifts I've got racked up this weekend. I might try and speak to the Triumph technician when I'm there and get some guidance on where to plug my phone in to remap it when I swap the exhaust.






LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Baryonyx said:
It's off to Triumph in the morning. I went down earlier and secured the light as best I could (gaffer taped the wire under tension at the back of the fitting on the inside of the fairing). It looks like it'll keep the light in a reasonable position for the trip in. I'll be setting off around 9AM and no doubt the roads will still be full of feckless commuters and school run mothers, so I'll be taking my time and heading along the Central Motorway for Triumph to simplify the route. Then for a walk into town to get my haircut, and hopefully back shortly afterwards to collect the bike and head home. Fingers crossed it all goes well as I quite fancy using it for the nightshifts I've got racked up this weekend. I might try and speak to the Triumph technician when I'm there and get some guidance on where to plug my phone in to remap it when I swap the exhaust.



Right, I'm going to come across as a mechanical muppet again, but doesn't this bike predate smartphones and the level of technology that you're talking about. I know you're pretty young, but smartphones, the Internet, electronics and the like are all very recent inventions. The bike probably can be remapped, but I doubt there'll be an easy way of accessing this.

Of course I could be completely wrong.

Baryonyx

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17,998 posts

160 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Right, I'm going to come across as a mechanical muppet again, but doesn't this bike predate smartphones and the level of technology that you're talking about. I know you're pretty young, but smartphones, the Internet, electronics and the like are all very recent inventions. The bike probably can be remapped, but I doubt there'll be an easy way of accessing this.

Of course I could be completely wrong.
No, this bike can be remapped and unlike the usual 'fit the slip on and forget' mantra, they apparently run badly without a remap if you change the exhaust. Some forum user reported putting the Triumph race can on and checked it on a rolling road before and after using a 'canned' remap, it produced 80bhp before he remapped it! I don't profess to understand how it all works as there is no lambda sensor in the exhaust but the bike definitely needs a remap to adjust for the freer flowing can. It's done using a programme you can download to your laptop or phone, plugging a USB cable into an OBD adapter under the seat, with generic maps available online created by other users who've the time and skill to tweak the settings.

I have read that it's an easy process but I've never read a proper guide on it, I've heard mention of having to pull the headlight relay out when you remap it but I don't know what. I don't know if you're supposed to have the bike running, or just have the key in the on position...etc etc. Triumph charge £50 for the remaps but the staff seem pretty easygoing so I could get a heads up from them.

However, when the bike came out, I gather the fuel injection side of things was pretty big news, enough for Triumph to put a sticker on the bike advertising it.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Baryonyx said:
LoonR1 said:
Right, I'm going to come across as a mechanical muppet again, but doesn't this bike predate smartphones and the level of technology that you're talking about. I know you're pretty young, but smartphones, the Internet, electronics and the like are all very recent inventions. The bike probably can be remapped, but I doubt there'll be an easy way of accessing this.

Of course I could be completely wrong.
No, this bike can be remapped and unlike the usual 'fit the slip on and forget' mantra, they apparently run badly without a remap if you change the exhaust. Some forum user reported putting the Triumph race can on and checked it on a rolling road before and after using a 'canned' remap, it produced 80bhp before he remapped it! I don't profess to understand how it all works as there is no lambda sensor in the exhaust but the bike definitely needs a remap to adjust for the freer flowing can. It's done using a programme you can download to your laptop or phone, plugging a USB cable into an OBD adapter under the seat, with generic maps available online created by other users who've the time and skill to tweak the settings.

I have read that it's an easy process but I've never read a proper guide on it, I've heard mention of having to pull the headlight relay out when you remap it but I don't know what. I don't know if you're supposed to have the bike running, or just have the key in the on position...etc etc. Triumph charge £50 for the remaps but the staff seem pretty easygoing so I could get a heads up from them.

However, when the bike came out, I gather the fuel injection side of things was pretty big news, enough for Triumph to put a sticker on the bike advertising it.
In a nutshell, I'm wrong. I'm not even going to pretend to understand a word of what you've written. Pretty well all I heard when reading it was "bloop de boo do blooby doop doop"

gwm

2,390 posts

145 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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At least you won't have to worry about bricking like you get on modern bikes.

Are you going to dyno it before/after or just road test?

Baryonyx

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17,998 posts

160 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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I'm mainly in it for the noise so it'll be a road test. I can think of a few roads locally where I can (briefly) wring it right round to see if all is well. It's not just dropping 30bhp that can happen if it's not mapped, apparently it's obviously as the throttle response is spoiled too, so it should be noticeable if it's not right. I don't even know where the nearest rolling road is, certainly not in Northumberland anyway!

Baryonyx

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17,998 posts

160 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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I dropped it off this morning, to be told the LH indicator hadn't arrived, and that it was due today but it could be as late as 1400 by the time the bike was ready. I had intended on just walking to town, running a couple of errands and riding home but now I'll be collecting the bike tomorrow afternoon, hopefully fit and ready. I couldn't think of much to do to occupy myself in town for five and half hours, so I left it for the day. They'd previously taken my number but I didn't get a call regarding the delivery. It's not like I could have begged a demonstrator bike from them for the day either, as I couldn't find my photocard licence before I left. I found it in 15 seconds on getting home! Hopefully, for the inconvenience of not having use of the bike today and having my make my own way home, I'll see if I can talk them into crediting me a free remap as recompense. I know for them, it's a simple and quick job that costs them nothing, so perhaps they'll make a gesture of goodwill for the cockup.

Otherwise, it wasn't a dreadful ride across town. Plenty of traffic around so not really a chance to open the taps.