Oulton BSB

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LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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BSB bikes bear very little relation to the road bike. They look similar in silhouette and that's about it. In simple terms though if you whacked the throttle open on your bike whilst still cranked over exiting a corner and braked to the maximum at the last possible second entering a corner then your bike would look a bit skittish too. Some riders like their bike to feel loose whereas others like it planted too.

SteRB5138

173 posts

214 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I was at Oulton yesterday, great day out and good to see a high number of spectators as well.
I saw a nasty high side in the Supersport race, Ed Peed I think it was, the R6 was pretty battered!

Tommo13

196 posts

157 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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LoonR1 said:
BSB bikes bear very little relation to the road bike. They look similar in silhouette and that's about it. In simple terms though if you whacked the throttle open on your bike whilst still cranked over exiting a corner and braked to the maximum at the last possible second entering a corner then your bike would look a bit skittish too. Some riders like their bike to feel loose whereas others like it planted too.
Loon's not wrong, our 2014 super bike was not very similar to your road going zx10r at all, virtually everything is improved, apart from the frame really. The cost to take it to this (and keep it there) is pretty astonishing, especially as the bike wasn't really a contender ! smile


egor110

16,861 posts

203 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Don't the bikes have different characteristics though , even in race trim?

The yam needs to carry corner speed , not dive in brake and race out, the suzuki is very rideable but down on power

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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egor110 said:
Don't the bikes have different characteristics though , even in race trim?

The yam needs to carry corner speed , not dive in brake and race out, the suzuki is very rideable but down on power
The riders can set them up how they want as they're almost infinitely fettle able. How they are set up is ideally to rider preference, but there are still things that are outside the control of the rider. Sometimes the bike just isn't working. Oulton though is a special track it is smooth but very up and down and what works well on one part of the track might not on other parts so it's a compromise.

A rider may choose to have it set up perfectly for Clayhill, Druids and Lodge, but this could cock up the chicane handling, or the two fast lefts through Cascades and Island.

mitzy

13,857 posts

197 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Quinny said:
mitzy said:
What a thrilling Supersport Race
Hope everyone who came off is ok
Amazing Race
Unfortunately Andy Reid, has a broken wrist, and it's not a straight forward break...probably out for the rest of the seasonfrown

Sam Hornsey, has a leg injury, not sure how bad...
Wishing them both a speedy recovery.
110% commitment from all of them, you could tell how much they were all pushing.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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mitzy said:
Quinny said:
mitzy said:
What a thrilling Supersport Race
Hope everyone who came off is ok
Amazing Race
Unfortunately Andy Reid, has a broken wrist, and it's not a straight forward break...probably out for the rest of the seasonfrown

Sam Hornsey, has a leg injury, not sure how bad...
Wishing them both a speedy recovery.
110% commitment from all of them, you could tell how much they were all pushing.
He says he's got a very bruised and very sore, back knees and elbows. Much better than first thought.

egor110

16,861 posts

203 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Just finished watching the weekends racing.

Good to see brookes not just walking over the field like the last few weekends, should give us a good final 3 round battle between shakey and brookes.


FartKong

897 posts

183 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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The Supersport races were brilliant especially the second one. It was a pity Reid had that crash as it would have been great to win with Keith in the garage and he is doing really well at the minute.
As for the Superbikes it was nice to see Shakey able to take it to Brookes although I'd love to see the Tyco boys up there more.

egor110

16,861 posts

203 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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FartKong said:
The Supersport races were brilliant especially the second one. It was a pity Reid had that crash as it would have been great to win with Keith in the garage and he is doing really well at the minute.
As for the Superbikes it was nice to see Shakey able to take it to Brookes although I'd love to see the Tyco boys up there more.
Bin laverty and get hopkins on board for 2016.

Anyone got any news as to if parkes is returning to milwaukee or will they be getting another rider for the showdown?

FourWheelDrift

88,527 posts

284 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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egor110 said:
Bin laverty
Didn't he race BSB for Moto Rapido Ducati in 2012?

FartKong

897 posts

183 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Don't know what's wrong with Laverty this year as normally he's one of the top riders. Since coming back from MotoGP he just hasn't been the same.

egor110

16,861 posts

203 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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FartKong said:
Don't know what's wrong with Laverty this year as normally he's one of the top riders. Since coming back from MotoGP he just hasn't been the same.
I guess last time he was in bsb the bikes had more rider aids then went to gp with more rider aids the back to bsb with no rider aids.

Turn7

23,609 posts

221 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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egor110 said:
FartKong said:
Don't know what's wrong with Laverty this year as normally he's one of the top riders. Since coming back from MotoGP he just hasn't been the same.
I guess last time he was in bsb the bikes had more rider aids then went to gp with more rider aids the back to bsb with no rider aids.
Riding on two completely different types of bike and tyre cant help either.....

egor110

16,861 posts

203 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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woowahwoo said:
Turn7 said:
Riding on two completely different types of bike and tyre cant help either.....
Possible that he could surprise people in the showdown.
I don't think he has any chance.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Just watched the SuperSport races. Superb. Best racing series of the season by a country mile. Glad the crashers are all Ok (of sorts). What a series, this is the stuff that every race series in the world should want to replicate.

hebegb

1,523 posts

147 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Just watched the SuperSport races. Superb. Best racing series of the season by a country mile. Glad the crashers are all Ok (of sorts). What a series, this is the stuff that every race series in the world should want to replicate.
Epic racing - they are super talented and super hungry , evident on every bend , every straight - gassing it and into every braking zone , absolutely committed - fabulous spectacle.

egor110

16,861 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Just watched the SuperSport races. Superb. Best racing series of the season by a country mile. Glad the crashers are all Ok (of sorts). What a series, this is the stuff that every race series in the world should want to replicate.
Agreed , people moan about the showdown but we have byrne v brookes battle royal to look forward to.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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egor110 said:
LoonR1 said:
Just watched the SuperSport races. Superb. Best racing series of the season by a country mile. Glad the crashers are all Ok (of sorts). What a series, this is the stuff that every race series in the world should want to replicate.
Agreed , people moan about the showdown but we have byrne v brookes battle royal to look forward to.
I was talking about the SuperSport races more than the full fat Superbikes. The 600s are just exceptional, even the SS600 is great racing too. In all honesty the full fat BSB is the worst racing spectacle of the lot IMO. That's not saying it's bad, just that the other races are so good.

egor110

16,861 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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LoonR1 said:
egor110 said:
LoonR1 said:
Just watched the SuperSport races. Superb. Best racing series of the season by a country mile. Glad the crashers are all Ok (of sorts). What a series, this is the stuff that every race series in the world should want to replicate.
Agreed , people moan about the showdown but we have byrne v brookes battle royal to look forward to.
I was talking about the SuperSport races more than the full fat Superbikes. The 600s are just exceptional, even the SS600 is great racing too. In all honesty the full fat BSB is the worst racing spectacle of the lot IMO. That's not saying it's bad, just that the other races are so good.
Glenn Irwin was on it the start of the year but seems to of dropped of the pace now, luckily dixon, reid and rispoli have taken his place.