RE: KTM Freeride E-SM: PH2

RE: KTM Freeride E-SM: PH2

Thursday 8th October 2015

KTM Freeride E-SM: PH2

KTM's electric supermoto tested (briefly)



While at a Silverstone track day recently, I couldn't help but spot a large orange KTM tent. Propped up against the tent was KTM's 2015 electric supermoto, the E-SM. Well, it would have been be rude not to take it for a quick spin, right? That should explain the poor action images too...

And the skateboard makes more noise
And the skateboard makes more noise
What's new?
PH2 tested the electric Freeride E-XC off-roader a while ago and the supermoto is essentially the same bike with a few tweaks to make it more suited to road use. The off-roader's knobbly tyres and odd sized wheels make way for 17-inch road wheels, while the gearing is lengthened (11:48 to 12:40 if you care) to make it less revvy. If an electric bike can be called revvy. Is it volty? Whatever the name, it now has a top speed of around 60mph and a slightly lower seat height. I say lower, it is now 880mm from 910mm, which is still pretty high!

Urban warrior
KTM is aiming the SM at the urban rider and as long as your commute is fairly short, it would be a cracking machine for the job. Weighing just 108kg it is very light and nimble; while hardly the most comfortable of bikes due to a typical supermoto off-road inspired seat, it is certainly tolerable for short hops. But just how short? That's the key and KTM claim to have seen the off-roaders last over 45 minutes of use between charges, which should equate to enough miles for city use. Like the SX it takes about an hour and a half to recharge. I only got a very brief burst on the bike, and not enough to test its range, but I did get it to over 60mph, so the speed is certainly there. And so is the fun factor.

Like the SX, the SM has its brakes set like a bicycle with the front brake lever on the left bar and rear on the right one and that, combined with its light weight, means loads of skids and stoppies. OK, there is no practical justification for stoppies, but skidding the rear does help turn the bike into a tight space when filtering through traffic. Well, that's my excuse...

Does this quite well
Does this quite well
Is it a practical solution?
As always with electric vehicles it boils down to price and battery range. I would happily commute through a congested area on the E-SM as it is a great laugh, would crash quite well and is very cheap to run. The price is a sticking point - more on that in due course - and it's not a bike for those with range anxiety. My only real moans about the SM though are the key and the steering lock; I reckon both could be easily overcome by a thief. On an off-roader this isn't so much of an issue, but on a dedicated road bike I'd like to see some proper security such as an immobiliser and 'modern' ignition.

Price point
The E-SM has an official RRP of £10,599, however KTM is currently offering the bike on zero per cent finance for two years. And there is potentially some good news. KTM is trying to secure an electric vehicle subsidy, which will chop £1,500 off the asking price. Sadly there is no PCP option as off-road vehicles (the XC is based around the SX and therefore is classed as off-road) are deemed to high risk. If PCP were an option I think it could well swing a few sales. With no petrol costs, minimal servicing, a few pence a week on electricity and a guaranteed value in three years the SM would seem a more viable, but still very expensive, prospect.


2015 KTM FREERIDE E-SM
Engine
: Brushless permanent magnet synchronous water-cooled motor
Power (hp): 15hp @ 5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 31
Top speed: 60mph (est)
Weight: 108kg (dry)
MPG: n/a
Price: £10,599





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K666ADM

Original Poster:

156 posts

191 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Is a motorcycle license required to ride this on the roads? its engine cc is zero and power output is more akin to a scooter. Perhaps more of a mobility device than a vehicle.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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NO! Bicycles have the front on the RIGHT!!!!!! Other countries may choose differently but they are wrong!

roboxm3

2,417 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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rhinochopig said:
NO! Bicycles have the front on the RIGHT!!!!!! Other countries may choose differently but they are wrong!
I assume that's a typo but I suppose it'd be pretty easy to swap if not!?

grahamr88

421 posts

173 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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10 grand, can't be parked anywhere, and no more power than a 125? Why would anyone buy one of these?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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roboxm3 said:
rhinochopig said:
NO! Bicycles have the front on the RIGHT!!!!!! Other countries may choose differently but they are wrong!
I assume that's a typo but I suppose it'd be pretty easy to swap if not!?
Unlikely a typo as the Euro's run their MTBs / road bikes that way. IIRC so do the Americans. It's bloody scary swapping.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Breaks the wrong way round... I can't see that ending well.

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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roboxm3 said:
rhinochopig said:
NO! Bicycles have the front on the RIGHT!!!!!! Other countries may choose differently but they are wrong!
I assume that's a typo but I suppose it'd be pretty easy to swap if not!?
Not wrong... Italian, in fact all European bicycles have the front brake lever on the left, rear on the right...

boyse7en

6,727 posts

165 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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jamespink said:
Not wrong... Italian, in fact all European bicycles have the front brake lever on the left, rear on the right...
I think it is like that in any country that drives on the right. So that cyclists can use hand-signals to turn across oncoming traffic (ie turning left in Europe, right in the UK) and still use the more-powerful front brake.

roboxm3

2,417 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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So it's a "motorbike equivalent" of sorts and yet they decide to put the (front) brakes on the opposite side to all other motorbikes in the world ever!?!? confused

Raize

1,476 posts

179 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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K666ADM said:
Is a motorcycle license required to ride this on the roads? its engine cc is zero and power output is more akin to a scooter. Perhaps more of a mobility device than a vehicle.
125's are limited to 15hp with just provisional license... so maybe you could ride this on that? I imagine it would probably be faster though.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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boyse7en said:
jamespink said:
Not wrong... Italian, in fact all European bicycles have the front brake lever on the left, rear on the right...
I think it is like that in any country that drives on the right. So that cyclists can use hand-signals to turn across oncoming traffic (ie turning left in Europe, right in the UK) and still use the more-powerful front brake.
Which in itself is stupid. If your moving fast enough to use the front brake you should not have a hand off the handle bars. If your going slow enough to be signalling the back brake should be fine, and probably preferred, as anyone who has done the u turn on the motorbike test can confirm. Really you want your front brake in your dominant hand to give you best control and modulation.

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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grahamr88 said:
10 grand, can't be parked anywhere, and no more power than a 125? Why would anyone buy one of these?
Oooooooooo yeeeeeeeeeeeeess! Most certainly there will be some who will buy.
Money is in the hands of some with no sense. Hence the saying!

I had to laugh (nothing to do with KTM or bikes) on the way home this evening, listening to 'Drive' on Radio Oxford. Presenter David ..... was chatting with a Radio Times presenter. David (Oxford) presenter says his wife asked him earlier that day to get some honey for his daughter's sore throat.

He went to a health shop (oh dear) and asked for some. A very small jar of Manuka was shown. The 'weakest' (honey, weak?) was 30 quid going up to 80 quid (for a tiny jar!) David said he didn't feel the 'weak' honey would be good enough, so he plumped half way and paid 40 quid!!!!
He felt he had been stung.

You're not kidding!! rofl

See. The old saying. A fool and his money. There are loads of fools out there.

No doubt some fool will be along in mo to tell us the KTM is worth every penny. As is the honey.

Gecko1978

9,710 posts

157 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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I like the idea not keen on the price or the 45 min range which I guess at 60mph will be a lot less. Question how long do the batteries last like say in a mobile phone after a while it just wont take a full charge (maybe 3 years on a modern hand set) What happens to a csar or a bike. a petrol engin will run in most cars today for what 100 150k etc and may last 20 years if this lasts 3 years thats a very expensive scooter with a poor range.

Corranga

50 posts

169 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Interesting that they report range in time rather than distance.

Surely 45 minutes in a city could equate to 10 miles or less, or is it 45 minutes on throttle (so to speak)?

That said 45 minutes usage, and only double that to charge is pretty decent. If they could double that and not take a weight penalty (in a couple of years time), and get the price to a more suitable level, I suspect it could be a winner for bike commuters, but, as with all other electric vehicles, the battery tech simply isn't there yet.

2ndclasscitizen

304 posts

117 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Does this still have the removable battery?

Killboy

7,296 posts

202 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Bit much, but this would be perfect for my commute! Chop the 1500 off and we may have a winner smile

joema

2,648 posts

179 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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I'd quite like but motorbikes arent really that thirsty so it would take ages to recoup the costs

13aines

2,153 posts

149 months

Saturday 10th October 2015
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joema said:
I'd quite like but motorbikes arent really that thirsty so it would take ages to recoup the costs
A long time - and you can't just nip to the fuel pumps biglaugh

Give it another few years though and these will be popular in the cities I think.

Fleegle

16,689 posts

176 months

Saturday 10th October 2015
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45 minutes use??

Completely impractical for the majority of commuters

As for the off road equivalent, why the hell would you bother? When I go off roading, I'm out of the house for between 7 and 9 hours

I can only see complete mugs buying these

Bodo

12,375 posts

266 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Seems like KTM stopped making them a year later due to lack of sales.

An interesting, but expensive toy.

I quite like the concept for electric L3e-A1 bikes where they are limited to <11kW nominal output, but can have a max. output of three times than that. The E-SM has 9/18kW. An entertainment feature that no ICE 125ccm has.

Bring back the same bike for <£6k and 120km range, and we're in business.