Police bike riders why?
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Here's the thing ...
If the cop is riding a police bike he's traffic (or Roads Policing to be all modern and pc - unless he's on an unmarked bike and is surveillance unit/ major crime/ etc - but I digress).
If he's traffic then he's advanced car.
If he's advanced car he's also standard car (you have to pass standard car to do the advanced course)
He's at least standard bike.
He might be advanced bike, security escort trained, etc.etc. which means more training.
Without droning on this means lots of training/ courses/ qualifications.
Does this make the cop a riding God ? Not necessarily - but he will be very competent.
If he wasn't competent and able to pass the courses he wouldn't be on the bike. Not everyone makes the grade.
If the cop is riding a police bike he's traffic (or Roads Policing to be all modern and pc - unless he's on an unmarked bike and is surveillance unit/ major crime/ etc - but I digress).
If he's traffic then he's advanced car.
If he's advanced car he's also standard car (you have to pass standard car to do the advanced course)
He's at least standard bike.
He might be advanced bike, security escort trained, etc.etc. which means more training.
Without droning on this means lots of training/ courses/ qualifications.
Does this make the cop a riding God ? Not necessarily - but he will be very competent.
If he wasn't competent and able to pass the courses he wouldn't be on the bike. Not everyone makes the grade.
Edited by Red 4 on Tuesday 13th October 23:02
Who cares? How does that stop him speeding on his days off? Does he have big ducks, or small horses?
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LoonR1 said:
Who cares? How does that stop him speeding on his days off? Does he have big ducks, or small horses?
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Red 4 said:
LoonR1 said:
Who cares? How does that stop him speeding on his days off?
Who cares ? The Samaritans.How does that stop him speeding on his day off ? It doesn't. But he's likely to speed a lot more competently than others if he speeds at all.
LoonR1 said:
Who cares? How does that stop him speeding on his days off? Does he have big ducks, or small horses?
This is the story of two sisters. Jessica Tate and Mary Campbell. Jessica lives in a neighborhood known as "rich". Jessica likes life, the only thing about life she would change if she could, is that she would set it all to music. The Tates have more secrets than they do money. We're approaching Mary Campbell's house. Mary, too, likes life. Unfortunately, life doesn't seem to be too crazy about her. As you can see the Campbell's don't have nearly as much money as the Tates. They do, however, have as many secrets. Our story begins early one morning in Dunns River, Connecticut.
This and much more will be answered in next week's episode of ...............
Showing your age there...This is the story of two sisters. Jessica Tate and Mary Campbell. Jessica lives in a neighborhood known as "rich". Jessica likes life, the only thing about life she would change if she could, is that she would set it all to music. The Tates have more secrets than they do money. We're approaching Mary Campbell's house. Mary, too, likes life. Unfortunately, life doesn't seem to be too crazy about her. As you can see the Campbell's don't have nearly as much money as the Tates. They do, however, have as many secrets. Our story begins early one morning in Dunns River, Connecticut.
This and much more will be answered in next week's episode of ...............
Hooli said:
LoonR1 said:
Who cares? How does that stop him speeding on his days off?
Last time I rode with an off duty cop he was pulling away from me & I had just over 160 on the speedo.Sounds like he just had a faster bike than you. (What bike have you got that will indicate160 without use of a clear 30 mile - in 10 decline.
Many people bulls
t they can outrun coppers.
This guy actually does it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qS6HjV1-1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1j4LP4YJU
t they can outrun coppers. This guy actually does it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qS6HjV1-1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1j4LP4YJU
Biker's Nemesis said:
Hooli said:
LoonR1 said:
Who cares? How does that stop him speeding on his days off?
Last time I rode with an off duty cop he was pulling away from me & I had just over 160 on the speedo.Sounds like he just had a faster bike than you. (What bike have you got that will indicate160 without use of a clear 30 mile - in 10 decline.
My GSX14 displays 163 flat out, I know it lies by 8-9% all the time so it's about right considering it's 23% more bhp than stock with the pipe/tune/dynojet dynoing. Btw book is 145, so adding 9% gives 158 & I know it's a touch quicker than standard 14s as we've tested it on 'private roads'.
Bottom line.
My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
CorvetteConvert said:
Bottom line.
My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
I was right with you until I realised the "205 bhp 167kg" bike you were referring to was a Ducati. I zoned out at that point My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
CorvetteConvert said:
Bottom line.
My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
So you're quicker ...My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
Unfortunately all the cop needs is your registration number.
I'll accept that some people have a talent/ gift for riding but I also think it's fair to say that many/ most do not.
The quickest rider I know just happens to be an ex-police motorcyclist. I'd say he is a gifted rider and would be fast without any training in any case.
He's also slightly nuts which may or may not be relevant.
There's a big difference between track and road riding (not road racing).
The police courses are largely (but not exclusively) about positioning, observation and giving yourself time to react - it's not all about speed.
Red 4 said:
CorvetteConvert said:
Bottom line.
My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
So you're quicker ...My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
Silver993tt said:
Red 4 said:
CorvetteConvert said:
Bottom line.
My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
So you're quicker ...My mate is a bike cop in North London, great guy, logical when he pulls up bikers, i.e. he stings the idiots and gives a lecture to the riders going a bit too fast in safe conditions. All round good guy.
Yes, he is a great road rider. Loads of experience on London's roads, knows all the short cuts and is a good rider in adverse conditions, including snow at times. I, like he, was a despatch rider for several years and did huge mileages with just one accident, but he hasn't been near a racetrack on a bike, whereas i did 15 years of club racing on 2 and 4 stroke racing bikes. i also own one of the best handling and fastest bikes ever sold to the public. 205 bhp/167kgs.
He wouldn't see which way i went on a track or fast B road and he accepts that. His strengths over mine will be handling a big heavy bike better than i could and he will have better local knowledge than i, despite me spending 30 years in London. Horses for courses.
It certainly doesn't mean he'd stay with my Ducati if i chose to get rid of him. Especially on a 100 bhp chugger which weighs about 250 kgs and has the nimbleness of the QE2.
They might set up a road block and get me, yep, but he ain't catching me, police training or not. Sorry, just how it is. I met Phil Read, ex racer a few years ago on the isle of Man and we spoke about this very subject. He was on a 1000cc MV Agusta and omg was he still fast. No cop was catching him i can promise you.
Your definition of "inexperienced" is epic!
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