Fell off the bike....during my test :-p
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Snifflytooth said:
^^ where have they all gone? If these were introduced back for 'motability' or whatever they call it, millions would be slashed off the NHS bill - or whoever funds it 
I suspect they've gone because manufacturers now offer bespoke vehicles. It's perceived as cheaper for the NHS to contribute to this, and results in better quality vehicle for the individual. Makes much more sense assuming the maths is correct. Which it won't be.
Prof Prolapse said:
Snifflytooth said:
^^ where have they all gone? If these were introduced back for 'motability' or whatever they call it, millions would be slashed off the NHS bill - or whoever funds it
I suspect they've gone because manufacturers now offer bespoke vehicles. It's perceived as cheaper for the NHS to contribute to this, and results in better quality vehicle for the individual. Makes much more sense assuming the maths is correct. Which it won't be.
They were indeed withdrawn as being lethal (the invalid carriage not motorbikes), however under current cost saving exercises this could still be viewed as a benefit and a way of reducing care costs for the old and infirm ;-).
Strangely if I remember correctly they were made by 'AC' so a Cobra under the disability scheme should be an option!
Strangely if I remember correctly they were made by 'AC' so a Cobra under the disability scheme should be an option!
I've said this before but when i was an instructor,well during learning to be one i was given this tip for u-turns,when you're starting to turn lift your right arse cheek like you're going to crack one off,this immediately shifts your weight to the left and makes the bars turn to the right!!Maintain said farting posture until the u-turn is over,simples!!!It works,trust me!
sbird said:
My first CBT ended with me on the road, with the bike on top of me. If you're anything like me, then after a couple of days you'll want to give it another go.
As others have said, I think the best thing to do is to go see your instructor and talk it through. They'll have seen all sorts, and will be best placed to show you what you need to do differently.
Thanks :-) ...and yeah the funny thing is that on my CBT I actually had to do an emergency stop for real at the traffic lights as they changed more quickly than I thought.As others have said, I think the best thing to do is to go see your instructor and talk it through. They'll have seen all sorts, and will be best placed to show you what you need to do differently.
I found riding on the road so much easier and fun than all the maneuvers stuff...which is why I can't wait to get it out of the way.
There is no doubt u-turns are the hardest, and the space between those 2 white lines you have to do it in look impossibly narrow and short when you are on your test. I failed mod 1 twice on the u-turn through putting a foot down. After the second fail I took a break, as I had also dropped the bike on a couple of practice runs when I let the momentum of the bike drop too much. Coincidentally the bike I had was an Er6n which by the way is 650cc. The technique that eventually worked for me was slipping the clutch, increased revs and use of the back brake. This helps keep the bike upright but also allows a tight turn to be made. The technique is also useful when filtering slowly through traffic.
On my third attempt at mod 1 I passed, and the Tarmac was wet. For you to have come off during emergency stop I can only think you must have had some steering input on.
I breezed through mod 2 which I took in December a couple of years ago, on wet leaf covered roads, so don't let the time of year put you off having another go, besides, there will be less people going for their test.
On my third attempt at mod 1 I passed, and the Tarmac was wet. For you to have come off during emergency stop I can only think you must have had some steering input on.
I breezed through mod 2 which I took in December a couple of years ago, on wet leaf covered roads, so don't let the time of year put you off having another go, besides, there will be less people going for their test.
It does make you wonder how good some of the training is, I did the new test a couple of years ago and all three of us were very well prepared and all passed mod 1 and 2 first time.
They made us practice on a much tighter course, so when we did the test it felt as if there was bags of room, I found that the secret of cracking the U turn was to give the bike a tiny bit of throttle just as it feels as if you you need to put your foot down.
The emergency stop and swerve test just needs a clear head and plenty of practice.
My advice to the OP is to perhaps start again but with a different training provider, but don't give up, passing my direct access when I was 47 was one of the best things I've ever done.
They made us practice on a much tighter course, so when we did the test it felt as if there was bags of room, I found that the secret of cracking the U turn was to give the bike a tiny bit of throttle just as it feels as if you you need to put your foot down.
The emergency stop and swerve test just needs a clear head and plenty of practice.
My advice to the OP is to perhaps start again but with a different training provider, but don't give up, passing my direct access when I was 47 was one of the best things I've ever done.
Gunk said:
It does make you wonder how good some of the training is, I did the new test a couple of years ago and all three of us were very well prepared and all passed mod 1 and 2 first time.
They made us practice on a much tighter course, so when we did the test it felt as if there was bags of room, I found that the secret of cracking the U turn was to give the bike a tiny bit of throttle just as it feels as if you you need to put your foot down.
The emergency stop and swerve test just needs a clear head and plenty of practice.
My advice to the OP is to perhaps start again but with a different training provider, but don't give up, passing my direct access when I was 47 was one of the best things I've ever done.
Having been involved in motorcycle training (many years ago) one of the things that struck me was just how different everyone was with regards to learning to ride. Some took to it like "a duck to water" and often those weren’t necessarily the people you’d expect. Others struggled with the simple things but breezed the complex stuff. It was quite common for someone who had easily and successfully completed a manoeuvre a number of times to then mess it up completely for no apparent reason. They made us practice on a much tighter course, so when we did the test it felt as if there was bags of room, I found that the secret of cracking the U turn was to give the bike a tiny bit of throttle just as it feels as if you you need to put your foot down.
The emergency stop and swerve test just needs a clear head and plenty of practice.
My advice to the OP is to perhaps start again but with a different training provider, but don't give up, passing my direct access when I was 47 was one of the best things I've ever done.
It’s not necessarily the training establishment!
black-k1 said:
Having been involved in motorcycle training (many years ago) one of the things that struck me was just how different everyone was with regards to learning to ride. Some took to it like "a duck to water" and often those weren’t necessarily the people you’d expect. Others struggled with the simple things but breezed the complex stuff. It was quite common for someone who had easily and successfully completed a manoeuvre a number of times to then mess it up completely for no apparent reason.
It’s not necessarily the training establishment!
The thing that struck me when i was instructing was how people that had been on bikes for years weren't necessarily the best at the end of the cbt.It’s not necessarily the training establishment!
In fact some of the best people i had had never been on a bike in their lives?Could never get my head around that one,in fact first guy i ever taught after i qualified was like a sponge,i just said it and he done it,it was weird,thought i was a setup!!;-)Best student i ever had.
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