Recommend a kids offroad bike?
Discussion
graham22 said:
telecat said:
Another reason to go OSET initially. They don't make any noise and come in several sizes to suit the rider. Because of that most people tend to think of them as toys and they are tolerated where a Petrol bike wouldn't. Not a factor here but useful if you are "urban".
I agree with Telecat here, both of us compete in trials & can see how things are growing on the Oset side and developing some good young riders. The silent use is a bonus too.Despite being suggested in the first reply this option has not been considered?
And they seem to hold their value well too come re-sale time.
The only downside is the usual electric drawback of range and my son can wear out the batteries in around 40 minutes if he treats it like an MX bike. A few people have DIYed their own LiPo batteries packs but I am not feeling quite so brave.
pozi said:
graham22 said:
telecat said:
Another reason to go OSET initially. They don't make any noise and come in several sizes to suit the rider. Because of that most people tend to think of them as toys and they are tolerated where a Petrol bike wouldn't. Not a factor here but useful if you are "urban".
I agree with Telecat here, both of us compete in trials & can see how things are growing on the Oset side and developing some good young riders. The silent use is a bonus too.Despite being suggested in the first reply this option has not been considered?
And they seem to hold their value well too come re-sale time.
The only downside is the usual electric drawback of range and my son can wear out the batteries in around 40 minutes if he treats it like an MX bike. A few people have DIYed their own LiPo batteries packs but I am not feeling quite so brave.
alternatively, maybe set up a Swingball/Rotary washing line and run an extension lead to it. The little scamp can then go around and around all day plugged in to the charger. Or until dizzyness/nausea/vomiting/loss of bodily functions set in..
I really should charge for this stuff......
Edited by Steve Bass on Thursday 5th May 12:38
Steve Bass said:
Unless you're somewhere where a petrol engined bike will be utterly verboten......
The depressing fact is that covers most of the UK nowadays thanks to the NIMBY curtain twicthers, police in my area will confiscate bikes and throw ASBO's around like confetti at the first hint using one somewhere it shouldn't be.I am half tempted to buy a field just to play in.
graham22 said:
telecat said:
Another reason to go OSET initially. They don't make any noise...
The silent use is a bonus too...I have woods over the road from me and a green space at the other end of them. I'll be getting an OSET for the tinies as soon as I can. I wouldn't dream of buying them a bike with a petrol engine in my surroundings.
papercup said:
They walk to the local park every day, and he rides it along the pavement, and then around the park. No-one minds at all. They get smiles from all folks.
I'd be much more concerned about a silent motocross bike riding along the pavement and round a public park that someone using a petrol motocross bike in his own field!Steve Bass said:
pozi said:
graham22 said:
telecat said:
Another reason to go OSET initially. They don't make any noise and come in several sizes to suit the rider. Because of that most people tend to think of them as toys and they are tolerated where a Petrol bike wouldn't. Not a factor here but useful if you are "urban".
I agree with Telecat here, both of us compete in trials & can see how things are growing on the Oset side and developing some good young riders. The silent use is a bonus too.Despite being suggested in the first reply this option has not been considered?
And they seem to hold their value well too come re-sale time.
The only downside is the usual electric drawback of range and my son can wear out the batteries in around 40 minutes if he treats it like an MX bike. A few people have DIYed their own LiPo batteries packs but I am not feeling quite so brave.
alternatively, maybe set up a Swingball/Rotary washing line and run an extension lead to it. The little scamp can then go around and around all day plugged in to the charger. Or until dizzyness/nausea/vomiting/loss of bodily functions set in..
I really should charge for this stuff......
Edited by Steve Bass on Thursday 5th May 12:38
But seriously, there are very quiet or silent alternatives outlined in other posts.
If only our biker neighbours had taken that option.
They moved in and were quickly riding the dirt bikes around much to everyones annoyance.
It was an horrendous noise. When you are confronted with such a din, there is no NIMBYISM involved you just want it to cease.
There is difinitely a sense of entitlement involved: 'It's my land I'll do what I like' Not true fortunately.
However, that is all in the past.
WD39 said:
Steve Bass said:
pozi said:
graham22 said:
telecat said:
Another reason to go OSET initially. They don't make any noise and come in several sizes to suit the rider. Because of that most people tend to think of them as toys and they are tolerated where a Petrol bike wouldn't. Not a factor here but useful if you are "urban".
I agree with Telecat here, both of us compete in trials & can see how things are growing on the Oset side and developing some good young riders. The silent use is a bonus too.Despite being suggested in the first reply this option has not been considered?
And they seem to hold their value well too come re-sale time.
The only downside is the usual electric drawback of range and my son can wear out the batteries in around 40 minutes if he treats it like an MX bike. A few people have DIYed their own LiPo batteries packs but I am not feeling quite so brave.
alternatively, maybe set up a Swingball/Rotary washing line and run an extension lead to it. The little scamp can then go around and around all day plugged in to the charger. Or until dizzyness/nausea/vomiting/loss of bodily functions set in..
I really should charge for this stuff......
Edited by Steve Bass on Thursday 5th May 12:38
But seriously, there are very quiet or silent alternatives outlined in other posts.
If only our biker neighbours had taken that option.
They moved in and were quickly riding the dirt bikes around much to everyones annoyance.
It was an horrendous noise. When you are confronted with such a din, there is no NIMBYISM involved you just want it to cease.
There is difinitely a sense of entitlement involved: 'It's my land I'll do what I like' Not true fortunately.
However, that is all in the past.
Ed. said:
WD39 said:
Steve Bass said:
pozi said:
graham22 said:
telecat said:
Another reason to go OSET initially. They don't make any noise and come in several sizes to suit the rider. Because of that most people tend to think of them as toys and they are tolerated where a Petrol bike wouldn't. Not a factor here but useful if you are "urban".
I agree with Telecat here, both of us compete in trials & can see how things are growing on the Oset side and developing some good young riders. The silent use is a bonus too.Despite being suggested in the first reply this option has not been considered?
And they seem to hold their value well too come re-sale time.
The only downside is the usual electric drawback of range and my son can wear out the batteries in around 40 minutes if he treats it like an MX bike. A few people have DIYed their own LiPo batteries packs but I am not feeling quite so brave.
alternatively, maybe set up a Swingball/Rotary washing line and run an extension lead to it. The little scamp can then go around and around all day plugged in to the charger. Or until dizzyness/nausea/vomiting/loss of bodily functions set in..
I really should charge for this stuff......
Edited by Steve Bass on Thursday 5th May 12:38
But seriously, there are very quiet or silent alternatives outlined in other posts.
If only our biker neighbours had taken that option.
They moved in and were quickly riding the dirt bikes around much to everyones annoyance.
It was an horrendous noise. When you are confronted with such a din, there is no NIMBYISM involved you just want it to cease.
There is difinitely a sense of entitlement involved: 'It's my land I'll do what I like' Not true fortunately.
However, that is all in the past.
I started my lad at 3 on an Oset 12.5 - Great little things, added plus is no noise, it was fairly quick but easy to restrict, the great thing was you could go to the park, field, school and everyone thought initally it was a toy until he shot off at 20mph with an electric baaarrrrrpppp.
At 4 i got him a PW 50, what a great bike, i can't describe how bullet proof these things are, in 2 years i've changed a spark plug and some oil, took it with us to the South of France, different motocross tracks around the Country, the mad thing is the Oset i made £50 on via e-bay and the PW hold strong money regardless of condition pretty much.
My lad is now 6 years old, I bought him a brand new CRF 110 this weekend, its to big for him however I can't afford to buy something inbetween for a year and then buy the CRF 110.
This is my opinion but do not buy him a KTM until he's riding the sock off the PW 50/80, they are a proper bit of kit and i've seen some young kids launch themselves into orbit on them, just my opinion.
Also another bit of advice (sorry if this seems patronising) always make them wear the right kit, body armour, lid, gloves, knee pads, trousers etc. Saturday when the bike arrived we rode around the garden (with a much noise as possible DW, as only in this Country is a bit of motorcycle noise frowned upon, grow a set and ensure your neighbours know motorcycling is a sport/community and if you restrict use it will make the youth ride illegally elsewhere)he had his lid and gloves on (as always) he rode the CRF first and he rode up to me so I could catch him (cant put feet down) and then he jumped on his PW and tore around the garden being cocky, tucked the front on brakes and the handlebar went into his ribs, he got up and shrugged it off but I/we learnt a valuable lesson in regards protection, body armour in future. To add the CRF can be restricted, intro to gears and not to aggressive as well as being bullet proof.
On that note do not be risk averse, we went to Motocross he went over the bars got up and cracked on, i was crapping myself when it happened, got home playing football he tackled me and his eye socket went into my knee,you cant predict nothing.
He's got to enjoy it, the PW is fun and can be restricted if needed, its not intimidating, the KTM is a proper 2 stroke ripper, watch the other Dads at motocross, they are shouting a their kids to go quicker, we rock up, deck chairs out, eat together and he rides as long as he wants, soon as he stops smiling or wants to go home we leave, i want him to smile not to be stressed.
Finally get a mountain bike for him or BMX and let him learn his trade on that as well, I took my lad to an indoor BMX track and he got a feel of the front wheel coming up but more importantly he loved it. He jumps the PW now mainly due to speed than skill but the push bike has given him that feel and undeerstanding.
We went to South of France in Feb 16, booked a motocross holdiay with my boy, we just rode together, proper bonding, i put a Go Pro to his handlebars and took it for granted just how low he is on that PW, but you can here him giggling and when he rode over the Supercross track on a PW I could not stop laughing, you can hear him shouting and laughing riding his bike, thats what its all about.
Bikes cant beat them..........
At 4 i got him a PW 50, what a great bike, i can't describe how bullet proof these things are, in 2 years i've changed a spark plug and some oil, took it with us to the South of France, different motocross tracks around the Country, the mad thing is the Oset i made £50 on via e-bay and the PW hold strong money regardless of condition pretty much.
My lad is now 6 years old, I bought him a brand new CRF 110 this weekend, its to big for him however I can't afford to buy something inbetween for a year and then buy the CRF 110.
This is my opinion but do not buy him a KTM until he's riding the sock off the PW 50/80, they are a proper bit of kit and i've seen some young kids launch themselves into orbit on them, just my opinion.
Also another bit of advice (sorry if this seems patronising) always make them wear the right kit, body armour, lid, gloves, knee pads, trousers etc. Saturday when the bike arrived we rode around the garden (with a much noise as possible DW, as only in this Country is a bit of motorcycle noise frowned upon, grow a set and ensure your neighbours know motorcycling is a sport/community and if you restrict use it will make the youth ride illegally elsewhere)he had his lid and gloves on (as always) he rode the CRF first and he rode up to me so I could catch him (cant put feet down) and then he jumped on his PW and tore around the garden being cocky, tucked the front on brakes and the handlebar went into his ribs, he got up and shrugged it off but I/we learnt a valuable lesson in regards protection, body armour in future. To add the CRF can be restricted, intro to gears and not to aggressive as well as being bullet proof.
On that note do not be risk averse, we went to Motocross he went over the bars got up and cracked on, i was crapping myself when it happened, got home playing football he tackled me and his eye socket went into my knee,you cant predict nothing.
He's got to enjoy it, the PW is fun and can be restricted if needed, its not intimidating, the KTM is a proper 2 stroke ripper, watch the other Dads at motocross, they are shouting a their kids to go quicker, we rock up, deck chairs out, eat together and he rides as long as he wants, soon as he stops smiling or wants to go home we leave, i want him to smile not to be stressed.
Finally get a mountain bike for him or BMX and let him learn his trade on that as well, I took my lad to an indoor BMX track and he got a feel of the front wheel coming up but more importantly he loved it. He jumps the PW now mainly due to speed than skill but the push bike has given him that feel and undeerstanding.
We went to South of France in Feb 16, booked a motocross holdiay with my boy, we just rode together, proper bonding, i put a Go Pro to his handlebars and took it for granted just how low he is on that PW, but you can here him giggling and when he rode over the Supercross track on a PW I could not stop laughing, you can hear him shouting and laughing riding his bike, thats what its all about.
Bikes cant beat them..........
Edited by 996 sps on Wednesday 11th May 17:17
996 sps said:
I started my lad at 3 on an Oset 12.5 - Great little things, added plus is no noise, it was fairly quick but easy to restrict, the great thing was you could go to the park, field, school and everyone thought initally it was a toy until he shot off at 20mph with an electric baaarrrrrpppp.
At 4 i got him a PW 50, what a great bike, i can't describe how bullet proof these things are, in 2 years i've changed a spark plug and some oil, took it with us to the South of France, different motocross tracks around the Country, the mad thing is the Oset i made £50 on via e-bay and the PW hold strong money regardless of condition pretty much.
My lad is now 6 years old, I bought him a brand new CRF 110 this weekend, its to big for him however I can't afford to buy something inbetween for a year and then buy the CRF 110.
This is my opinion but do not buy him a KTM until he's riding the sock off the PW 50/80, they are a proper bit of kit and i've seen some young kids launch themselves into orbit on them, just my opinion.
Also another bit of advice (sorry if this seems patronising) always make them wear the right kit, body armour, lid, gloves, knee pads, trousers etc. Saturday when the bike arrived we rode around the garden (with a much noise as possible DW, as only in this Country is a bit of motorcycle noise frowned upon, grow a set and ensure your neighbours know motorcycling is a sport/community and if you restrict use it will make the youth ride illegally elsewhere)he had his lid and gloves on (as always) he rode the CRF first and he rode up to me so I could catch him (cant put feet down) and then he jumped on his PW and tore around the garden being cocky, tucked the front on brakes and the handlebar went into his ribs, he got up and shrugged it off but I/we learnt a valuable lesson in regards protection, body armour in future. To add the CRF can be restricted, intro to gears and not to aggressive as well as being bullet proof.
On that note do not be risk averse, we went to Motocross he went over the bars got up and cracked on, i was crapping myself when it happened, got home playing football he tackled me and his eye socket went into my knee,you cant predict nothing.
He's got to enjoy it, the PW is fun and can be restricted if needed, its not intimidating, the KTM is a proper 2 stroke ripper, watch the other Dads at motocross, they are shouting a their kids to go quicker, we rock up, deck chairs out, eat together and he rides as long as he wants, soon as he stops smiling or wants to go home we leave, i want him to smile not to be stressed.
Finally get a mountain bike for him or BMX and let him learn his trade on that as well, I took my lad to an indoor BMX track and he got a feel of the front wheel coming up but more importantly he loved it. He jumps the PW now mainly due to speed than skill but the push bike has given him that feel and undeerstanding.
We went to South of France in Feb 16, booked a motocross holdiay with my boy, we just rode together, proper bonding, i put a Go Pro to his handlebars and took it for granted just how low he is on that PW, but you can here him giggling and when he rode over the Supercross track on a PW I could not stop laughing, you can hear him shouting and laughing riding his bike, thats what its all about.
Bikes cant beat them..........
When we finally approached our neighbour about the bike noise he said yes, the bikes are noisy and was surprised that we hadn't spoken to him sooner.At 4 i got him a PW 50, what a great bike, i can't describe how bullet proof these things are, in 2 years i've changed a spark plug and some oil, took it with us to the South of France, different motocross tracks around the Country, the mad thing is the Oset i made £50 on via e-bay and the PW hold strong money regardless of condition pretty much.
My lad is now 6 years old, I bought him a brand new CRF 110 this weekend, its to big for him however I can't afford to buy something inbetween for a year and then buy the CRF 110.
This is my opinion but do not buy him a KTM until he's riding the sock off the PW 50/80, they are a proper bit of kit and i've seen some young kids launch themselves into orbit on them, just my opinion.
Also another bit of advice (sorry if this seems patronising) always make them wear the right kit, body armour, lid, gloves, knee pads, trousers etc. Saturday when the bike arrived we rode around the garden (with a much noise as possible DW, as only in this Country is a bit of motorcycle noise frowned upon, grow a set and ensure your neighbours know motorcycling is a sport/community and if you restrict use it will make the youth ride illegally elsewhere)he had his lid and gloves on (as always) he rode the CRF first and he rode up to me so I could catch him (cant put feet down) and then he jumped on his PW and tore around the garden being cocky, tucked the front on brakes and the handlebar went into his ribs, he got up and shrugged it off but I/we learnt a valuable lesson in regards protection, body armour in future. To add the CRF can be restricted, intro to gears and not to aggressive as well as being bullet proof.
On that note do not be risk averse, we went to Motocross he went over the bars got up and cracked on, i was crapping myself when it happened, got home playing football he tackled me and his eye socket went into my knee,you cant predict nothing.
He's got to enjoy it, the PW is fun and can be restricted if needed, its not intimidating, the KTM is a proper 2 stroke ripper, watch the other Dads at motocross, they are shouting a their kids to go quicker, we rock up, deck chairs out, eat together and he rides as long as he wants, soon as he stops smiling or wants to go home we leave, i want him to smile not to be stressed.
Finally get a mountain bike for him or BMX and let him learn his trade on that as well, I took my lad to an indoor BMX track and he got a feel of the front wheel coming up but more importantly he loved it. He jumps the PW now mainly due to speed than skill but the push bike has given him that feel and undeerstanding.
We went to South of France in Feb 16, booked a motocross holdiay with my boy, we just rode together, proper bonding, i put a Go Pro to his handlebars and took it for granted just how low he is on that PW, but you can here him giggling and when he rode over the Supercross track on a PW I could not stop laughing, you can hear him shouting and laughing riding his bike, thats what its all about.
Bikes cant beat them..........
Edited by 996 sps on Wednesday 11th May 17:17
He apologised for the intrusion into our peace and quiet and we departed on good terms.
A comment, on your riding round the garden with as much noise as possible, would be lost.
PS It's WD.
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