Jailed for 150mph headcam footage...

[ilovequo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-341429...

Surprised that they were allowed to seize the headcam footage...
He must have been properly out of line to be jailed!

[bogie]

errr..yeah...110mph in a 30mph limit on the warm up

/always amazes me how daft some people are to video and publish themselves doing these things

[trickywoo]

ilovequo said:

He must have been properly out of line to be jailed!

I haven't seen it but the anti speed brigade are pretty rabid at the moment such that 150mph is seen as jail time regardless of circumstances e.g. empty road etc.

Is pretty disproportional when much worse crimes with actual victims are treated much less harshly.

[Fleegle]

He was a very naughty boy

[Mr_Tickle]

110 mph in a 30 mph zone is pretty dickish. If you insist on getting court and providing your own evidence to the police, you won't begetting much sympathy from me, I'm afraid.

[moanthebairns]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

the video, I cant wheelie worth a fk and I can do a better power wheelie on my blade....

utterly moronic riding to be honest.

Part of me thinks, they have done him a favour he was going to end up dead.

Its a bit of a stint, for what it is.

Then another part just doesn't care as people who are stupid enough to mount a go-pro to they're helmet inducing an impact point deserve to die or be locked up.

[redback911]

A two year jail sentence for what he did is ridiculous. Of course he is an idiot but TWO YEARS at his age? What kind of sentence appeal process is there for this type of conviction?

[black-k1]

I've not watched the video so can't comment on just how bad the riding is but, there were no accidents, there were no injuries, so, as usual, the jail term seems disproportionate when compared with other tabloid headline grabbing crime stories where people do get hurt and damage does occur.

This however, does reinforce my position as described in thread about helmet cams …

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

You have to ask what his punishment would have been had he only been done for …

Two police officers saw Hammond do a wheelie, overtake several vehicles and travel at about 80mph in a 50mph zone on the A27 at Chichester, West Sussex, on April 29.

[toxgobbler]

Mr_Tickle said:

110 mph in a 30 mph zone is pretty dickish. If you insist on getting court and providing your own evidence to the police, you won't begetting much sympathy from me, I'm afraid.

This. Speed is fun, but not in a 30, that's just dopey and deserves the book thrown at him.

[graeme4130]

I read somewhere that the guy had previous form and had been banned once before for a somewhat more serious reckless driving incident where someone either died or had been very badly injured
I'll try and find the link

[caduceus]

Doing anything silly in a 30 zone is idiotic. But 110? What a knob. There's a time and a place to do things.....

[redback911]

redback911 said:

A two year jail sentence for what he did is ridiculous. Of course he is an idiot but TWO YEARS at his age? What kind of sentence appeal process is there for this type of conviction?

Why the punitive sentence for being on a bike? Cars have the potential to cause more damage, but purely observational evidence suggests that bikers are often dealt with more harshly.

Just did a quick search "driving at 100mph in 30mph zone"

Car examples in 2015:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-new...
- Chase by the police
- Also doing >100mph in a 30mph
- Suspended eight month in prison, 150 hours of unpaid work and supervision. He was also banned from driving for 12 months and must take an extended test to regain his licence after the disqualification expires

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/drink-driver-...
- Clocked speeding at 100mph in a 30mph zone - after undertaking a police car
- Failed breath test, twice legal limit
- Disqualification for two years, reduced by 24 weeks if he completes a driver awareness course, was also fined £665, and ordered to pay £85 in costs and a victim surcharge of £40

[terry tibbs]

"and the jack Sanderson award for road safety goes to...

Robert Hammond

unfortunately, Robert cannot be with us tonight, but he sent this message via a phone smuggled up his arse"

bit steep the sentence in the grand scheme of things, its only speeding and a few overtakes on solids and a bit of dodgy clutch control causing the front wheel to lift

he hasn't buggered kids, attacked people with a machete, kicked the crap out of an innocent bystander which are some of the other stories in the daily wail, though i did like the one featuring Olivia Palermo flashing her thighs in over-the-knee leather boots and a short plaid dress

[998420]

terry tibbs said:

"and the jack Sanderson award for road safety goes to...

Robert Hammond

unfortunately, Robert cannot be with us tonight, but he sent this message via a phone smuggled up his arse"

bit steep the sentence in the grand scheme of things, its only speeding and a few overtakes on solids and a bit of dodgy clutch control causing the front wheel to lift

he hasn't buggered kids, attacked people with a machete, kicked the crap out of an innocent bystander which are some of the other stories in the daily wail, though i did like the one featuring Olivia Palermo flashing her thighs in over-the-knee leather boots and a short plaid dress

Think for a minute about the people and offences who do not get Prison...

Junkies, almost impossible to jail, if they agree to a daft treatment program, no matter how many hundreds of burglaries they committed, old people with their lives and memories destroyed, no jail

Paedophiles, many have got non custodial sentences

Affray, many gang attacks are somehow demoted to common assault or ABH, affray used to be 3+ years minimum

Bikers speeding ... Look at the stats, hardly ever kill themselves, yet are frequently killed by careless car drivers while not speeding excessively. So why the jail time ? If 150mph is so fking dangerous then I would be dead 1000x over. On my last UK bike I made a point of doing 150 every single time I got on it and completely safely, and yes,there are spots where you can carry that into much lower limits where they are stupidly applied. Then I ride in urban/village areas at 30/40 for a number of good reasons

When I speed on my bike, by a massive stretch my biggest danger is to myself, if I get it wrong, from physics and nature, what some senile old scrote might say in a court 6 months later is irrelevant as you judge your braking and tip into the next corner, why on earth should I risk myself unnecessarily by checking my speedometer while I am extremely busy otherwise piloting my bike on public roads ?

[snorky782]

998420 said:

Think for a minute about the people and offences who do not get Prison...

Junkies, almost impossible to jail, if they agree to a daft treatment program, no matter how many hundreds of burglaries they committed, old people with their lives and memories destroyed, no jail

Paedophiles, many have got non custodial sentences

Affray, many gang attacks are somehow demoted to common assault or ABH, affray used to be 3+ years minimum

Bikers speeding ... Look at the stats, hardly ever kill themselves, yet are frequently killed by careless car drivers while not speeding excessively. So why the jail time ? If 150mph is so fking dangerous then I would be dead 1000x over. On my last UK bike I made a point of doing 150 every single time I got on it and completely safely, and yes,there are spots where you can carry that into much lower limits where they are stupidly applied. Then I ride in urban/village areas at 30/40 for a number of good reasons

When I speed on my bike, by a massive stretch my biggest danger is to myself, if I get it wrong, from physics and nature, what some senile old scrote might say in a court 6 months later is irrelevant as you judge your braking and tip into the next corner, why on earth should I risk myself unnecessarily by checking my speedometer while I am extremely busy otherwise piloting my bike on public roads ?

In other words:

Because not everyone else goes to jail, then I shouldn't.

I think I'm invincible and have no stats at all to back that up, but love to pretend it's the case. Cagers are the enemy.

I can ride at 8000mph safely everywhere because I'm so awesome, but a, incapable of working out when I'm doing 8000moh or 23mph.

[Mr2Mike]

snorky782 said:

In other words:

Because not everyone else goes to jail, then I shouldn't.

I think I'm invincible and have no stats at all to back that up, but love to pretend it's the case. Cagers are the enemy.

I can ride at 8000mph safely everywhere because I'm so awesome, but a, incapable of working out when I'm doing 8000moh or 23mph.

Calm down old boy, plenty of people like yourself support non-custodial sentences for assault, burglary and sexual offenses, provided that people riding/driving too quickly get jail time. Doesn't make you a bad person. Just...misguided.

[black-k1]

998420 said:

Bikers speeding ... Look at the stats, hardly ever kill themselves, yet are frequently killed by careless car drivers while not speeding excessively. So why the jail time ? If 150mph is so fking dangerous then I would be dead 1000x over. On my last UK bike I made a point of doing 150 every single time I got on it and completely safely, and yes,there are spots where you can carry that into much lower limits where they are stupidly applied. Then I ride in urban/village areas at 30/40 for a number of good reasons

I'm not saying speeding is the cause or even a significant significant contributory factor but be careful about stats and "hardly ever kill themselves" comments. 25% of bike KSI accidents are single vehicle which means in almost 1 quarter of fatal accidents, bikers do kill themselves!

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20110503...

While the biker is more often the innocent victim in other accident types, it still works out that the biker was at fault enough times to say that (give or take a little bit) a biker is overall about as likely to "kill themselves" as they are to be killed by someone else!

[snorky782]

Mr2Mike said:

Calm down old boy, plenty of people like yourself support non-custodial sentences for assault, burglary and sexual offenses, provided that people riding/driving too quickly get jail time. Doesn't make you a bad person. Just...misguided.

Where did I say that? I didn't mention jail once in my reply, nor did I support those assaulting others, burglars, or sexual offenders.

Other than that, good points.

[obscene]

Jailed for two years. A woman locally killed a young lad on a 125 who is a friend of a friend as "she didn't see him" and pulled out and got nothing other than a driving course. The justice system really doesn't do itself any favours.

[creampuff]

Thumbing your nose at the Man by going really really fast without actually crashing into anything has always been more jail-worthy than just driving like a general dick at lower speeds and killing everybody.

Kill mother walking to get kids from school on a zebra crossing? Jail worthy? Nah.
http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/11433523.Dri...

Just as well that guy who ran over the pedestrian on the zebra crossing wasn't going over a ton, then it could have been REALLY serious.