Jailed for 150mph headcam footage...

Jailed for 150mph headcam footage...

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Oilchange

8,421 posts

259 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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365 (x 2) in reality.

I think the Magistrate wanted to make an example of him. Either way he was a numpty and he could have killed someone else as well as himself. Gaoling him probably save his life.

AB

16,969 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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I think a lot to do with what is 'safe' comes down to what others expect you to be doing.

People don't expect you to be doing 150 on the motorway and will act accordingly, right or wrongly.




Fermit The Krog

12,787 posts

99 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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cat with a hat said:
Fermit The Krog said:
Personally I think a two year prison term for this is ludicrous. Honestly, how many of us haven't driven fast, really fast, from time to time? I've seen 140mph on a handful of occasions (on private runways, of course...) as have most of my mates. I have been passenger in a car at near 170. I received a 30 day ban as an inexperienced 19 year old for 108 in a 70, and I'm still here, and have never killed anyone.

Yes, the speeds he filmed are downright silly, yes, he was a plank to film them, this doesn't mean he deserves to be locked up for 20 hours a day for the next 365 days.

I would suggest more apt would be 200 hours community service, a one year ban, and a £500 fine. Ignoring all else imprisoning him shall likely cost the state £50K.
I thought it was closer to 100k a year to keep someone locked up?
That much, Jesus! I'd got the £50k figure in my head for some reason.

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

117 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Fermit The Krog said:
cat with a hat said:
Fermit The Krog said:
Personally I think a two year prison term for this is ludicrous. Honestly, how many of us haven't driven fast, really fast, from time to time? I've seen 140mph on a handful of occasions (on private runways, of course...) as have most of my mates. I have been passenger in a car at near 170. I received a 30 day ban as an inexperienced 19 year old for 108 in a 70, and I'm still here, and have never killed anyone.

Yes, the speeds he filmed are downright silly, yes, he was a plank to film them, this doesn't mean he deserves to be locked up for 20 hours a day for the next 365 days.

I would suggest more apt would be 200 hours community service, a one year ban, and a £500 fine. Ignoring all else imprisoning him shall likely cost the state £50K.
I thought it was closer to 100k a year to keep someone locked up?
That much, Jesus! I'd got the £50k figure in my head for some reason.
Lots of different numbers floating around online.. It might even average out at only £35k according to the gov

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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How much are bullets?

ZesPak

24,423 posts

195 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Prof Prolapse said:
How much are bullets?
I think a one-time £35k will allow you a weapon that removes the need of a coroner.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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ZesPak said:
I think a one-time £35k will allow you a weapon that removes the need of a coroner.
He tripped and fell into a bullet which was stationary. We believe the inmate was travelling at approximately 850mph at the time.


Vipers

32,799 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Fermit The Krog said:
I received a 30 day ban as an inexperienced 19 year old for 108 in a 70, and I'm still here, and have never killed anyone.
Its not that you didnt kill anyone, it the probability of an incident occuring due to your speed. We can all argue till doomsday what "We" think is safe and what is not safe, due to the time, road, weather etc etc etc. But I am sure we all know the consequences of ignoring limits etc. At twice the speed limit is taking the piss, and crosing those white lines, which are there for a reason.

I am only guessing that the severity of the sentence may have been based on all the evidence from his web cam, which we dont have access to.

Anyway I am glad your safe and sound, and may the discusion continue to infinity....... which it will biggrin




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ilovequo

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775 posts

180 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Opinions about how a litre sportsbike can safely operate at 150mph+ are irrelevant imho...
They are only as safe or dangerous as the rider in control of them.

Anyone can get a modern sportsbike to 150 on a public road but variables like traffic, pedestrians, loose surfaces and manhole covers mean that doing sustained speeds for long distances won't end well!

No question this man would have got off lightly had he not incriminated himself with multiple misdemeanours on the headcam...

bogie

16,343 posts

271 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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If it was a one off offence then no doubt a single count of dangerous driving is min 12 month ban and 30 hours community service

...but it wasn't. The guy had previous and was in the habit of filming himself doing it. On this trip they had enough evidence for 4 incidents of DD to be considered by the court, hence they had to do something worse than "just" a ban and make an example of him

If you think its safe to do 150mph on occasion where you find a nice stretch of road with no junctions, no-one else around, then sure go for it, its really easy to do

....but dont film yourself doing in less than ideal places, post it on the internet and then wonder why you get nicked wink

gareth_r

5,712 posts

236 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Guess how many wheels...

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Unqualified-driver-le...

Failing to stop, 90mph police chase through a 30 limit (Soundwell in Bristol), no licence, no insurance, assault and no licence or insurance on a separate occasion, "a long list of previous driving convictions".

Six months gaol.

Tribal Chestnut

2,997 posts

181 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Vipers said:
and crosing those white lines, which are there for a reason.
I wish we'd cut out spouting bks like this. A lot of the time I can't fathom why a solid white line is there, certainly ain't for safety.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

238 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Tribal Chestnut said:
Vipers said:
and crosing those white lines, which are there for a reason.
I wish we'd cut out spouting bks like this. A lot of the time I can't fathom why a solid white line is there, certainly ain't for safety.
No, it's just there for fun and to annoy you in particular rolleyes

Tribal Chestnut

2,997 posts

181 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
Vipers said:
and crosing those white lines, which are there for a reason.
I wish we'd cut out spouting bks like this. A lot of the time I can't fathom why a solid white line is there, certainly ain't for safety.
No, it's just there for fun and to annoy you in particular rolleyes
If we're going to be tts, where did I say that they annoyed me?

black-k1

11,889 posts

228 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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It's certainly true that the number of solid white lines has been increasing and it's often difficult to understand why they are painted where they are painted.

trickywoo

11,706 posts

229 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Silver993tt said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
Vipers said:
and crosing those white lines, which are there for a reason.
I wish we'd cut out spouting bks like this. A lot of the time I can't fathom why a solid white line is there, certainly ain't for safety.
No, it's just there for fun and to annoy you in particular rolleyes
Quite a few seem to be. I could post up lots of street view links where the painters have obviously got it wrong. There is one on the a22 with perfect visibility no junctions etc which delays a safe overtake by 100m for no reason.

Tribal Chestnut

2,997 posts

181 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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trickywoo said:
Quite a few seem to be. I could post up lots of street view links where the painters have obviously got it wrong. There is one on the a22 with perfect visibility no junctions etc which delays a safe overtake by 100m for no reason.
Well, we're obviously just too darn stupid to appreciate that these mysteriously placed lines are actually keeping us alive.

trickywoo

11,706 posts

229 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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anonymous said:
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God there are spome idiots on this thread. I'm out.

catso

14,771 posts

266 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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anonymous said:
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Doesn't necessarily mean there is either though, just because some pencil-neck decides where the line should be doesn't make it right.

I can think of many around here that aren't necessary and many more that really aren't 'applicable' to a bike.

Consider also that the same authority deciding on the lines are also setting new, revised (downwards, for your safety) speed limits, that are more often than not just silly...

Vipers

32,799 posts

227 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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catso said:
Doesn't necessarily mean there is either though, just because some pencil-neck decides where the line should be doesn't make it right.

I can think of many around here that aren't necessary and many more that really aren't 'applicable' to a bike. ..
Not applicable to a bike, interesting, so only apply to "others". Example?



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