Jailed for 150mph headcam footage...

Jailed for 150mph headcam footage...

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bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

249 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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There seem to be a lot of solid double white line overtakes in his video. The police seem to hate that, no matter how safe it actually is from the bike's perspective. It's when he splits the lanes and overtakes by busy junctions etc that makes me wince.

steve954

895 posts

181 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I don't think it's so much the one incident that got the jail time but more of the collaboration of all the 150 clips! He couldn't just say it was a one off and he was stupid I won't do it again etc etc.

On another note he is 60 so giving us youth a bad name wink

epom

11,549 posts

162 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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What a clown, 110mph in a 30 zone. Deserves everything he gets tbh.

Gecko1978

9,726 posts

158 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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hmmmmm 2 years. On one hand you might think well no one was hurt and its not like he stole anything etc etc. An 2 years will cost the tax payer a lot to keep him warm an fed. But on the other an where my feelings end up is if you have prison as a possibility for speeding then this is where it applies.

110mph in a housing estate is moronic filming it and repeating over an over again shows a level of stupid I did not think it was possible to fit inside one human being.

My feeling is prison is about right even if other crimes dont get punished like this. But really we have to think about life ban etc, where as this time no one was hurt the risk to someone by this person is much greater than the risk posed by another biker at 150 on the M6 toll late at night etc.

Speed does not kill but being a knob head surely helps enforce the view in other that it does.

sc0tt

18,054 posts

202 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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He is being a tool on a bike. Nothing else.

Ban him for two years and sorted.

Much easier.

Tribal Chestnut

2,997 posts

183 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Gecko1978 said:
hmmmmm 2 years. On one hand you might think well no one was hurt and its not like he stole anything etc etc. An 2 years will cost the tax payer a lot to keep him warm an fed. But on the other an where my feelings end up is if you have prison as a possibility for speeding then this is where it applies.

110mph in a housing estate is moronic filming it and repeating over an over again shows a level of stupid I did not think it was possible to fit inside one human being.

My feeling is prison is about right even if other crimes dont get punished like this. But really we have to think about life ban etc, where as this time no one was hurt the risk to someone by this person is much greater than the risk posed by another biker at 150 on the M6 toll late at night etc.

Speed does not kill but being a knob head surely helps enforce the view in other that it does.
It's not the magnitude of his punishment that we have a problem with, it's the disproportionality when compared to other crimes.

Obscene cited a good example earlier and we had one recently in my town in which a woman pulled out on a biker, killed him, but was given a conditional discharge. Farcical it most certainly is.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Cannot and wouldn't try to defend the guys riding but 2 years inside? Admittedly, he'll most likely be out on a tag much sooner but a 6 month sentence would seem more appropriate to me, along with the 2 year ban etc. Had he caused injury it would have been a different story.

RDMcG

19,186 posts

208 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Welcome to the selfie generation. Why do people insist on recording themselves doing illegal acts? This type of result occurs all around the world. I have done the occasional track and autobahn video and some off-roading stuff but the idea of even privately recording a criminal offence seems crazy to me. If I were a burglar I would not bring the trusty GoO
Pro on the job

Mad Jock

1,272 posts

263 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I think that we have to recognise the difference between a momentary lapse in concentration, however tragic the consequences, and a wilful and persistent streak of dangerous and illegal riding. The internet is littered with cases where us bikers feel that the culprit has got off lightly, and frankly I wonder how some of them managed to get a licence, but they are sadly the consequence of inattention, bad judgement or lack of skill, rather than wilful intent.

The other cases of drivers failing to stop or trying to evade the police fall into the same category as this individual, and this is where I feel that the law is not being applied to the fullest, and can rightly be seen as discriminatory when similar cases are applied to bikers.

I'm sure that I'm not alone in having to take evasive action when a car has pulled out in front of me, and managed to avoid a collision, riding on with a shake of the head (or hand) and muttering vile oaths towards the offending car driver. Unless a police car is conveniently present, the car driver will continue on their merry way. No harm no foul, so to speak.

In the case of this individual, his memory card tripped him up, big time. All the (lengthy) evidence of his daft riding was there for the prosecution to see. If he got it wrong and hit a tree, then that's his look out, but if he hit a car at that speed, he would more than likely kill the occupants as well as himself.

Although we will never know, I suspect that perhaps he failed the attitude test both with the police and in court, and that may have influenced the court's decision.

In general, however, we do seem to see more leniency shown to errant car drivers than bikers. The bikers tend to get what is deserved, the drivers less than they deserve, so I still agree, there seems to be discrimination.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Mad Jock said:
In general, however, we do seem to see more leniency shown to errant car drivers than bikers. The bikers tend to get what is deserved, the drivers less than they deserve, so I still agree, there seems to be discrimination.
He was jailed for 28 months and banned from driving for 10 years

supercommuter

2,169 posts

103 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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obscene said:
Jailed for two years. A woman locally killed a young lad on a 125 who is a friend of a friend as "she didn't see him" and pulled out and got nothing other than a driving course. The justice system really doesn't do itself any favours.
Same here - family member killed by a dick in a car pulling in front of him, completely at fault. Motorcyclist was not speeding and was riding safely. In court the guy was banned for 12 months and got 100 hours community service.

It is a real kick in the teeth when people get jailed for things like this - but killing someone you can walk free.

dc2rr07

1,238 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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creampuff said:
Thumbing your nose at the Man by going really really fast without actually crashing into anything has always been more jail-worthy than just driving like a general dick at lower speeds and killing everybody.

Kill mother walking to get kids from school on a zebra crossing? Jail worthy? Nah.
http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/11433523.Dri...

Just as well that guy who ran over the pedestrian on the zebra crossing wasn't going over a ton, then it could have been REALLY serious.
That sums it up nicely, although the guy was riding like an idiot which does no favours to the biking community the Police/Papers overact by saying "It is a miracle that other road users had not been seriously injured or killed" the only person in danger from the footage I saw was him.



Mad Jock

1,272 posts

263 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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yonex said:
Mad Jock said:
In general, however, we do seem to see more leniency shown to errant car drivers than bikers. The bikers tend to get what is deserved, the drivers less than they deserve, so I still agree, there seems to be discrimination.
He was jailed for 28 months and banned from driving for 10 years
Funnily enough, he didn't kill anyone either. He did, however, show wilful intent to drive dangerously.

Mad Jock

1,272 posts

263 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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LiquidGnome

551 posts

122 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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What a tit.

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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One of lifes 'look at me' brigade.

He got his wish

catso

14,790 posts

268 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Not defending his riding but it always seems odd when motoring offences that 'could' have caused an accident attract such harsh sentencing when compared to many that actually did cause an accident, often only involving an insurance claim...

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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"will have to sit an extended re-test before taking to the roads again"

Yeah, good look with that one mate. biglaugh

I'm conflicted. Two years seems a bit fierce. At the end of the day, despite the police using their big book of clichés, he never actually caused any harm. But it is a powerful deterrent I guess.

That said he'll be out in half that.







NIgt3

614 posts

175 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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what a retard, but I think Jail is a bit extreme when Rapists, thieves etc walk outta court with a slap on the rist!