My new Metzeler Roadtec 01 tyres
Discussion
3DP said:
Prof Prolapse said:
I guess that it's no coincidence the 01s sound more of an alternative to the PR4s than a replacement.
After all Pirelli own both companies, it's unlikely to produce a product which eclipses another successful one.
When did Pirelli buy Michelin? Pirelli own Metzeler. My view generally on tyres, Pirelli for feel and dry work, Michelin for life and wet work.After all Pirelli own both companies, it's unlikely to produce a product which eclipses another successful one.
Another update. The worries about squaring off and or short life are so far unfounded.
I'm really loving the stability and grip through the corners and while they are slow to warm up (my only criticism so far) in the biblical rain on my commute both there and back on Thursday the tyres were faultless and inspired tremendous confidence.
At this point, assuming they make it to 8000 miles I'd be more than happy to buy a set.
I'm really loving the stability and grip through the corners and while they are slow to warm up (my only criticism so far) in the biblical rain on my commute both there and back on Thursday the tyres were faultless and inspired tremendous confidence.
At this point, assuming they make it to 8000 miles I'd be more than happy to buy a set.
A quick update.
I'm up to 8,200 miles now - all but 1,200 of which have been on the Metzelers. As of this morning they look like this:
If they act in the same way as PR3s / PR4s then they will likely start to "go off" in the next 1000 miles but the tread still looks to be in pretty good shape and I haven't noticed any changes to the handling or grip.
It's also worth noting that the Crossrunner is a heavy bike (240kg) and I'm no lightweight either. I'm impressed.
I'm up to 8,200 miles now - all but 1,200 of which have been on the Metzelers. As of this morning they look like this:
If they act in the same way as PR3s / PR4s then they will likely start to "go off" in the next 1000 miles but the tread still looks to be in pretty good shape and I haven't noticed any changes to the handling or grip.
It's also worth noting that the Crossrunner is a heavy bike (240kg) and I'm no lightweight either. I'm impressed.
Edited by SteelerSE on Monday 19th September 09:31
SteelerSE said:
A quick update.
I'm up to 8,200 miles now - all but 1,200 of which have been on the Metzelers.
If they act in the same way as PR3s / PR4s then they will likely start to "go off" in the next 1000 miles but the tread still looks to be in pretty good shape and I haven't noticed any changes to the handling or grip.
Blimey, that's 7000 miles & tyres look good as new!!! Either the tyres are utterly amazing, or you ride super-slow....I'm up to 8,200 miles now - all but 1,200 of which have been on the Metzelers.
If they act in the same way as PR3s / PR4s then they will likely start to "go off" in the next 1000 miles but the tread still looks to be in pretty good shape and I haven't noticed any changes to the handling or grip.
Biker 1 said:
Blimey, that's 7000 miles & tyres look good as new!!! Either the tyres are utterly amazing, or you ride super-slow....
I'm not tear arsing around the place as it's pointless in London. Quite a bit of the time is spent in average speed camera zones etc so the usage probably isn't as high as it could be.I haven't been doing as many miles as usual over the last couple of months so I still haven't hit 10,000 miles yet. I am closing on about 9000 miles on these tyres now and they are still inspiring confidence though the profile is starting to go on the rear tyre. I'll post pictures over the Christmas period to give you an idea of the wear but I've been pretty impressed.
I'm guessing that I'll get another couple of thousand miles out of the rear before I need to change it. The front still feels and looks fine though. Pics to follow in a few days.
I'm guessing that I'll get another couple of thousand miles out of the rear before I need to change it. The front still feels and looks fine though. Pics to follow in a few days.
I'm not keen on mine, nothing fundamentally wrong with them, will probably last well, not that that is important to me as pleasure rider only, but they feel a bit lacking in feedback, a little wooden. They gripped well enough last summer and warmed up reasonably quickly but difficult to gain confidence with them with little feedback. Michelins seem to give more feel and feedback, even if that is at the expense of being a little soft.
I'd prefer Michelin PR to these, if only for the greater feel.
I'd prefer Michelin PR to these, if only for the greater feel.
George111 said:
I'm not keen on mine, nothing fundamentally wrong with them, will probably last well, not that that is important to me as pleasure rider only, but they feel a bit lacking in feedback, a little wooden. They gripped well enough last summer and warmed up reasonably quickly but difficult to gain confidence with them with little feedback. Michelins seem to give more feel and feedback, even if that is at the expense of being a little soft.
I'd prefer Michelin PR to these, if only for the greater feel.
I think you've nailed it for me. I want to give them benefit of the doubt on a warm track day but that is what seems to be missing compared to the michelins. I'd prefer Michelin PR to these, if only for the greater feel.
I'm still running the Z8's I was given, probably only about 3000 miles so far.
Fine in the dry, reasonable in the wet; the front doesn't inspire confidence when it's greasy and the rear shimmies a bit on acceleration, probably similar to the older PR2's.
Wear so far is noticeable but not worryingly so; I expect maybe 7-8000 from the rear and a bit more from the front (obviously)
Fine in the dry, reasonable in the wet; the front doesn't inspire confidence when it's greasy and the rear shimmies a bit on acceleration, probably similar to the older PR2's.
Wear so far is noticeable but not worryingly so; I expect maybe 7-8000 from the rear and a bit more from the front (obviously)
Back on the bike full time but I'm doing less miles. With the bike on 10,400 miles on the clock the tyres are just shy of 10k miles. As promised here are pics.
The rear is squaring off and can feel a little bit squirrely as you transition from upright to some lean. Other than that I had a full on emergency stop recently and the grip was still there.
You can just start to see the lips forming on the front but it may have up to 3-4k left. The rear I'll be replacing in about 1k at a guess.
I have to say I'm hugely impressed. They are hugely capable road tyres and for the sort of riding I do I would happily recommend them to anyone.
The rear is squaring off and can feel a little bit squirrely as you transition from upright to some lean. Other than that I had a full on emergency stop recently and the grip was still there.
You can just start to see the lips forming on the front but it may have up to 3-4k left. The rear I'll be replacing in about 1k at a guess.
I have to say I'm hugely impressed. They are hugely capable road tyres and for the sort of riding I do I would happily recommend them to anyone.
Hi.
I thought I'd add my experience of these tyres since they are still new and not well known.
I ride a 2002 Aprilia RSV road and track use.
My previous tyres were michelin Pr3.. great tyre except for the issue with the front tread edges rolling over.
I barely managed 3000 road miles from a set but they performed great and knee down in a mile was no problem.
Now the metzeler RoadTec 01... wow.. even better than the Pr3s!
Far better feedback from the front tyre and what feels like masses of grip leant over.
The Pr3 were good don't get me wrong, but these are better!
2500 miles in and hardly worn either where as the pr3 were nearly dead!
I don't ride in the wet unless caught out so all my mileage is hot dry summer fun.
I thought I'd add my experience of these tyres since they are still new and not well known.
I ride a 2002 Aprilia RSV road and track use.
My previous tyres were michelin Pr3.. great tyre except for the issue with the front tread edges rolling over.
I barely managed 3000 road miles from a set but they performed great and knee down in a mile was no problem.
Now the metzeler RoadTec 01... wow.. even better than the Pr3s!
Far better feedback from the front tyre and what feels like masses of grip leant over.
The Pr3 were good don't get me wrong, but these are better!
2500 miles in and hardly worn either where as the pr3 were nearly dead!
I don't ride in the wet unless caught out so all my mileage is hot dry summer fun.
Bob_Defly said:
How does the M7RR compare to these, more track orientated? Are the M7RR's still good in the rain?
Different tyre. The M7RR is for people that want a fast road tyre that can perform well in the wet and cold but still push a decent pace summer & even do the odd track day at the expense of not lasting as long as say that 01Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff