Teen dead and another injured after police chase moped in lo
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creampuff said:
srob said:
That's the point - it's uncontrolled. That's why a civilised nation wants a judge and jury to deal with it, and that's why people flee countries where there is no control.
The only way for "a judge and jury to deal with it" is if the police officer is prosecuted in every instance something unfortunate happens to a suspected criminal. Is this what you want to happen?srob said:
Your ideas are fine and dandy, we'd all like to see someone who's wronged us end up in tears but eventually it all ends in chaos and just isn't possible or sensible. People hark on about 'the good old days' but that's balls - it's never been that different. Just now that the Daily Mail and Facebook give you a minute by minute reason to be outraged you hear more about it.
The recent spate of criminal investigations of the police come from the IPCC. The IPCC has only been in existence since 2004, so this is different to the past. I don't see this has anything to do with either sympathy towards criminals or alternatively wishing criminals end up dead. In this case the criminal stole a scooter and attempted to evade arrest. In the course of evading arrest, they crashed and ended up dead. That isn't the fault of the police and the police arresting criminals won't end in "chaos", it will just end in criminals being arrested and prosecuted. And are you saying that policemen couldn't have been pulled up for anything pre-2004? I don't think that's the case at all.
These days the law seems to be always on the bad guys side. Any punishment to be metered out is usually tied up in years of legal bull and lack of prison spaces. 9/10 its the taxpayer paying for all of that legal bull. Now we have a case whereby a CRIMINAL STOLE a bike and crashed it killing himself and thankfully, no one else. This CRIMINAL didn't care if he killed anyone else one he had his fun. Noe the policemen who were trying to protect the community from the likes of this CRIMINAL are themselves being investigated for committing a crime. Who is paying for this investigation ? Yep You. Who will pay for all the other CRIMINALS involved legal fees ?? You. Who's lives (of those still alive) will be altered more by what happened? The policemen. Sad isn't it ?
epom said:
These days the law seems to be always on the bad guys side. Any punishment to be metered out is usually tied up in years of legal bull and lack of prison spaces. 9/10 its the taxpayer paying for all of that legal bull. Now we have a case whereby a CRIMINAL STOLE a bike and crashed it killing himself and thankfully, no one else. This CRIMINAL didn't care if he killed anyone else one he had his fun. Noe the policemen who were trying to protect the community from the likes of this CRIMINAL are themselves being investigated for committing a crime. Who is paying for this investigation ? Yep You. Who will pay for all the other CRIMINALS involved legal fees ?? You. Who's lives (of those still alive) will be altered more by what happened? The policemen. Sad isn't it ?
Step away from the Daily Mail.No I agree, coppers should be able to do what they want as long as they catch the suspect. Who by the way was f
king never convicted of the crime by the time he smeared himself up a van.
Let's not suspend them from duties whilst someone looks at the evidence as to whether or not they face criminal charges. It makes perfect sense to have potentially life threatening failures repeated on the streets.
Yes, let's have the C- average brigade with their pressed shirts and badges of authority wading around disobeying guidelines and laws specifically designed to keep us safe, from them, and them safe from the laws.
I don't give a flying fk this guy is dead (although in fairness I also wouldn't wish it), but I do expect a thorough investigation when police officers are accused of committing criminal offences. Not because I hate police, but because I have more than four brain cells which line up.
king never convicted of the crime by the time he smeared himself up a van. Let's not suspend them from duties whilst someone looks at the evidence as to whether or not they face criminal charges. It makes perfect sense to have potentially life threatening failures repeated on the streets.
Yes, let's have the C- average brigade with their pressed shirts and badges of authority wading around disobeying guidelines and laws specifically designed to keep us safe, from them, and them safe from the laws.
I don't give a flying f
k this guy is dead (although in fairness I also wouldn't wish it), but I do expect a thorough investigation when police officers are accused of committing criminal offences. Not because I hate police, but because I have more than four brain cells which line up.Probably alot easier to just let the criminals escape.
https://emergency-services.news/met-police-officer...
https://emergency-services.news/met-police-officer...
“ denies causing death by dangerous driving and causing serious injury by dangerous driving.” back in court on 21st dec
If I was a copper I would honestly not chase anyone. How can you? This country needs a keep up the nuts
They had been out robbing people. 4 minutes before the fatal crash is when the last theft took place. The accomplice who didn’t die admitted the thefts and got locked up.
https://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/crime-court/...
If I was a copper I would honestly not chase anyone. How can you? This country needs a keep up the nuts
They had been out robbing people. 4 minutes before the fatal crash is when the last theft took place. The accomplice who didn’t die admitted the thefts and got locked up.
https://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/crime-court/...
Edited by CoolHands on Thursday 3rd December 19:39
Rubin215 said:
fk me; the best part of five years later and someone drags this up again!
Those fking meteors are going to get it for what they did to the dinosaurs...
It's an update to let people know that the police officer has now been charged and is due to appear in court on 21st December.k me; the best part of five years later and someone drags this up again!Those f
king meteors are going to get it for what they did to the dinosaurs...kestral said:
Rubin215 said:
fk me; the best part of five years later and someone drags this up again!
Those fking meteors are going to get it for what they did to the dinosaurs...
It's an update to let people know that the police officer has now been charged and is due to appear in court on 21st December.k me; the best part of five years later and someone drags this up again!Those f
king meteors are going to get it for what they did to the dinosaurs...t Sherlock...Ultimately, why is someone resurrecting an argument from five years ago?
Kick off a new thread for f
k's sake!Rubin215 said:
kestral said:
Rubin215 said:
fk me; the best part of five years later and someone drags this up again!
Those fking meteors are going to get it for what they did to the dinosaurs...
It's an update to let people know that the police officer has now been charged and is due to appear in court on 21st December.k me; the best part of five years later and someone drags this up again!Those f
king meteors are going to get it for what they did to the dinosaurs...t Sherlock...Ultimately, why is someone resurrecting an argument from five years ago?
Kick off a new thread for f
k's sake!mike-v2tmf said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Their job is to enforce the laws whilst not breaking them.
If they don't do this they should be penalised the same as anyone else. This isn't Dirty Harry.
You are of course correct But a bit of Dirty Harry works for meIf they don't do this they should be penalised the same as anyone else. This isn't Dirty Harry.
I said this liberal non-sense four years ago, now I'd string them all up by their balls.
Kidding of course... Probably.
Prof Prolapse said:
mike-v2tmf said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Their job is to enforce the laws whilst not breaking them.
If they don't do this they should be penalised the same as anyone else. This isn't Dirty Harry.
You are of course correct But a bit of Dirty Harry works for meIf they don't do this they should be penalised the same as anyone else. This isn't Dirty Harry.
I said this liberal non-sense four years ago, now I'd string them all up by their balls.
Kidding of course... Probably.
There’s a big difference between enforcement that unintentionally ends in the death of a scumbag (no sympathy for scumbag) and plod appointing themselves judge, jury and executioner.
black-k1 said:
There’s a big difference between enforcement that unintentionally ends in the death of a scumbag (no sympathy for scumbag) and plod appointing themselves judge, jury and executioner.
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