And today's commuting highlight is...
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In a little bit of a rush this morning as I had to take a s
t and shave before leaving...
Typically a rather large transaction is announced and results bought forward so I rock up 3 mins post-publication :/
Other than that the microdrizzle is annoying - just sticks to the visor! - but other than a car nearly pulling out on me on Beckenham Hill (from my right on an otherwise empty road) all went smoothly. The bike seems to be riding and sounding a lot better too - possibly something to do with regular use it's been getting, including a 70 mile hoon around kent yesterday whilst a friend practised his IAM riding
t and shave before leaving...Typically a rather large transaction is announced and results bought forward so I rock up 3 mins post-publication :/
Other than that the microdrizzle is annoying - just sticks to the visor! - but other than a car nearly pulling out on me on Beckenham Hill (from my right on an otherwise empty road) all went smoothly. The bike seems to be riding and sounding a lot better too - possibly something to do with regular use it's been getting, including a 70 mile hoon around kent yesterday whilst a friend practised his IAM riding
SteelerSE said:
I'm looking at new gear at the moment. The Dane stuff looks pretty solid. Otherwise there's Dainese and Alpinestar but I don't think that their stuff is Goretex Pro. Hopefully one of the mags will do a review. I know it won't be Rukka though - ridiculous amounts of money. And apparently the vaunted warranty forces you through loads of hoops before they honour it.
Gave my new Dane jacket its first outing in what I can only describe as "deluge" this morning. Excellent - not a drop of water through it.
boyse7en said:
SteelerSE said:
I'm looking at new gear at the moment. The Dane stuff looks pretty solid. Otherwise there's Dainese and Alpinestar but I don't think that their stuff is Goretex Pro. Hopefully one of the mags will do a review. I know it won't be Rukka though - ridiculous amounts of money. And apparently the vaunted warranty forces you through loads of hoops before they honour it.
Gave my new Dane jacket its first outing in what I can only describe as "deluge" this morning. Excellent - not a drop of water through it.
SteelerSE said:
That's good to hear. Any other info (Stuff you love, niggles etc) that you can share as you use it would be great as my HG stuff is slowly dying.
It's really warm with the thermal liner in, but isn't very bulky - certainly not as thick and heavy as my previous Held Goretex jacket. Very windproof even at speed. The double zip closure works well and is easy to do with gloves
The over/under cuffs really work - no wind up the sleeves.
The Goretex Pro works well too. Got properly wet this morning, and most of the water has dried off of the jacket already. Old one could stay wet for days
Only negative i've got is that the handwarmer pockets don't have a zip/velcro to close them, so I have to remember to put keys and wallet in the main pockets.
fergus said:
kiethton said:
In a little bit of a rush this morning as I had to take a st and shave before leaving...
Typically a rather large transaction is announced and results bought forward....
Were you referring to your dump with the second sentence? t and shave before leaving...Typically a rather large transaction is announced and results bought forward....
308mate said:
Lowlight: Averagee Speed Cameras now fitted on the A3 into the city past Esher. bds.
Thanks for the headsup here - not part of my commute (currently) but could be in the future as I'm highly likely to be moving back to Hampshire for family expansion reasons and sometimes I have used that route out to my extended family in other parts of Hampshire if I take the bike.ds. Where does it start/stop exactly?
SteelerSE said:
boyse7en said:
SteelerSE said:
I'm looking at new gear at the moment. The Dane stuff looks pretty solid. Otherwise there's Dainese and Alpinestar but I don't think that their stuff is Goretex Pro. Hopefully one of the mags will do a review. I know it won't be Rukka though - ridiculous amounts of money. And apparently the vaunted warranty forces you through loads of hoops before they honour it.
Gave my new Dane jacket its first outing in what I can only describe as "deluge" this morning. Excellent - not a drop of water through it.
It's Goretex pro and testing it in 4 hours of rain (and bloody heavy rain at that) I got to my destination bone dry (bar my face and hands)
Get geared were offering a finance deal as well so it worked out about the same as phone contract per month. Well worth looking into and I'm very happy with the quality of the gear.
Has CE level 2 armour, all zips feel hardy and like they are built to last and just feels well thought about in general.
boyse7en said:
It's really warm with the thermal liner in, but isn't very bulky - certainly not as thick and heavy as my previous Held Goretex jacket. Very windproof even at speed.
The double zip closure works well and is easy to do with gloves
The over/under cuffs really work - no wind up the sleeves.
The Goretex Pro works well too. Got properly wet this morning, and most of the water has dried off of the jacket already. Old one could stay wet for days
Only negative i've got is that the handwarmer pockets don't have a zip/velcro to close them, so I have to remember to put keys and wallet in the main pockets.
Thank you for this. The Dane appears to be the only other Gore-Tex pro option out there other than Rukka (££££) and Klim (£££ and no thermal liner) so it's great to hear some real world feedback.The double zip closure works well and is easy to do with gloves
The over/under cuffs really work - no wind up the sleeves.
The Goretex Pro works well too. Got properly wet this morning, and most of the water has dried off of the jacket already. Old one could stay wet for days
Only negative i've got is that the handwarmer pockets don't have a zip/velcro to close them, so I have to remember to put keys and wallet in the main pockets.
MotorsportTom said:
Just read this and just my 2p but I picked up some revit gear end of last year but haven't really tested it until this year.
It's Goretex pro and testing it in 4 hours of rain (and bloody heavy rain at that) I got to my destination bone dry (bar my face and hands)
Get geared were offering a finance deal as well so it worked out about the same as phone contract per month. Well worth looking into and I'm very happy with the quality of the gear.
Has CE level 2 armour, all zips feel hardy and like they are built to last and just feels well thought about in general.
Nice to have another potential option. Part of the confusion for me is the level of Gore-Tex and different manufacturers talk about them in different ways.It's Goretex pro and testing it in 4 hours of rain (and bloody heavy rain at that) I got to my destination bone dry (bar my face and hands)
Get geared were offering a finance deal as well so it worked out about the same as phone contract per month. Well worth looking into and I'm very happy with the quality of the gear.
Has CE level 2 armour, all zips feel hardy and like they are built to last and just feels well thought about in general.
When I get home tonight my current kit will be drenched and won't be dry by the morning commute. Don't get me wrong - it's worked, I'm dry - but particularly when it's cold the wind chill can be significant when the jacket is still wet even if you're not. Plus it's heavy, smells etc when wet.
I want to stop that happening with whatever kit I buy next and the bonded pro version of gore-tex looks like the answer. The Gore-tex website only lists Dane and Held (though I'm aware that Rukka and Klim also do the stuff). What I don't know is who else (if anyone) makes this stuff because the marketing is clear as mud. For example the "Dainese D-Cyclone Gore-tex Laminate Jacket" doesn't say that it's Gore-tex pro but says it's 2L laminate shell. I don't understand practically what the difference is and the various sales sites don't help make it any clearer.
I've tried talking to sales assistants in shops but I tend to find that I know more than them about it which isn't saying much! For me this is too expensive a purchase to bugger up so I need to know that I'm buying something that does what it says on the tin.
SteelerSE said:
MotorsportTom said:
Just read this and just my 2p but I picked up some revit gear end of last year but haven't really tested it until this year.
It's Goretex pro and testing it in 4 hours of rain (and bloody heavy rain at that) I got to my destination bone dry (bar my face and hands)
Get geared were offering a finance deal as well so it worked out about the same as phone contract per month. Well worth looking into and I'm very happy with the quality of the gear.
Has CE level 2 armour, all zips feel hardy and like they are built to last and just feels well thought about in general.
Nice to have another potential option. Part of the confusion for me is the level of Gore-Tex and different manufacturers talk about them in different ways.It's Goretex pro and testing it in 4 hours of rain (and bloody heavy rain at that) I got to my destination bone dry (bar my face and hands)
Get geared were offering a finance deal as well so it worked out about the same as phone contract per month. Well worth looking into and I'm very happy with the quality of the gear.
Has CE level 2 armour, all zips feel hardy and like they are built to last and just feels well thought about in general.
When I get home tonight my current kit will be drenched and won't be dry by the morning commute. Don't get me wrong - it's worked, I'm dry - but particularly when it's cold the wind chill can be significant when the jacket is still wet even if you're not. Plus it's heavy, smells etc when wet.
I want to stop that happening with whatever kit I buy next and the bonded pro version of gore-tex looks like the answer. The Gore-tex website only lists Dane and Held (though I'm aware that Rukka and Klim also do the stuff). What I don't know is who else (if anyone) makes this stuff because the marketing is clear as mud. For example the "Dainese D-Cyclone Gore-tex Laminate Jacket" doesn't say that it's Gore-tex pro but says it's 2L laminate shell. I don't understand practically what the difference is and the various sales sites don't help make it any clearer.
I've tried talking to sales assistants in shops but I tend to find that I know more than them about it which isn't saying much! For me this is too expensive a purchase to bugger up so I need to know that I'm buying something that does what it says on the tin.
I used to have some alpinestars goretex lined gear and that was the same as you describe, the outside would get wet, would be heavy and smell etc.
The revit stuff if hung right was dry the next morning after the soaking I mentioned.
The cheaper Goretex kit doesn't always have the laminate shell, but instead a goretex lining. The kit still gets fking drenched but you don't.
Pay the extra and get a laminate shell. I am in the same position as you and I am going for the Dainese Cyclone with Laminate Goretex shell.
Fed up of pissing around sweating my bks off in my house with 19 layers on trying to then put a waterproof over the top.
king drenched but you don't.Pay the extra and get a laminate shell. I am in the same position as you and I am going for the Dainese Cyclone with Laminate Goretex shell.
Fed up of pissing around sweating my b
ks off in my house with 19 layers on trying to then put a waterproof over the top.supercommuter said:
The cheaper Goretex kit doesn't always have the laminate shell, but instead a goretex lining. The kit still gets fking drenched but you don't.
Pay the extra and get a laminate shell. I am in the same position as you and I am going for the Dainese Cyclone with Laminate Goretex shell.
Fed up of pissing around sweating my bks off in my house with 19 layers on trying to then put a waterproof over the top.
That's my plan but no one seems to know the difference between two-layer laminate and three-layer laminate. Or is it all just marketing gimmickry?king drenched but you don't.Pay the extra and get a laminate shell. I am in the same position as you and I am going for the Dainese Cyclone with Laminate Goretex shell.
Fed up of pissing around sweating my b
ks off in my house with 19 layers on trying to then put a waterproof over the top.SteelerSE said:
Nice to have another potential option. Part of the confusion for me is the level of Gore-Tex and different manufacturers talk about them in different ways.
When I get home tonight my current kit will be drenched and won't be dry by the morning commute. Don't get me wrong - it's worked, I'm dry - but particularly when it's cold the wind chill can be significant when the jacket is still wet even if you're not. Plus it's heavy, smells etc when wet.
I want to stop that happening with whatever kit I buy next and the bonded pro version of gore-tex looks like the answer. The Gore-tex website only lists Dane and Held (though I'm aware that Rukka and Klim also do the stuff). What I don't know is who else (if anyone) makes this stuff because the marketing is clear as mud. For example the "Dainese D-Cyclone Gore-tex Laminate Jacket" doesn't say that it's Gore-tex pro but says it's 2L laminate shell. I don't understand practically what the difference is and the various sales sites don't help make it any clearer.
I've tried talking to sales assistants in shops but I tend to find that I know more than them about it which isn't saying much! For me this is too expensive a purchase to bugger up so I need to know that I'm buying something that does what it says on the tin.
I don't know what your budget is, and I haven't looked at kit prices for a while, but I heartily recommend Halvarssons top-end kit. It isn't cheap, but it really is very waterproof indeed, as well as being breathable, temperature-regulating, and all that good stuff. I always believed 'waterproof' was only ever a relative term in motorcycling, but I have ridden through storms that resembled someone throwing swimming pools at me, and came out bone dry.When I get home tonight my current kit will be drenched and won't be dry by the morning commute. Don't get me wrong - it's worked, I'm dry - but particularly when it's cold the wind chill can be significant when the jacket is still wet even if you're not. Plus it's heavy, smells etc when wet.
I want to stop that happening with whatever kit I buy next and the bonded pro version of gore-tex looks like the answer. The Gore-tex website only lists Dane and Held (though I'm aware that Rukka and Klim also do the stuff). What I don't know is who else (if anyone) makes this stuff because the marketing is clear as mud. For example the "Dainese D-Cyclone Gore-tex Laminate Jacket" doesn't say that it's Gore-tex pro but says it's 2L laminate shell. I don't understand practically what the difference is and the various sales sites don't help make it any clearer.
I've tried talking to sales assistants in shops but I tend to find that I know more than them about it which isn't saying much! For me this is too expensive a purchase to bugger up so I need to know that I'm buying something that does what it says on the tin.
SteelerSE said:
supercommuter said:
The cheaper Goretex kit doesn't always have the laminate shell, but instead a goretex lining. The kit still gets fking drenched but you don't.
Pay the extra and get a laminate shell. I am in the same position as you and I am going for the Dainese Cyclone with Laminate Goretex shell.
Fed up of pissing around sweating my bks off in my house with 19 layers on trying to then put a waterproof over the top.
That's my plan but no one seems to know the difference between two-layer laminate and three-layer laminate. Or is it all just marketing gimmickry?king drenched but you don't.Pay the extra and get a laminate shell. I am in the same position as you and I am going for the Dainese Cyclone with Laminate Goretex shell.
Fed up of pissing around sweating my b
ks off in my house with 19 layers on trying to then put a waterproof over the top.
On the subject of Rev'it, I bought their Poseidon jacket and trousers at the end of 2015 and it has not stood the test of time well at all. It generally looks tatty, zipper pulls have failed and there are some awful design features such as st velcro to the ankles resulting in flappy-ness and cuffs that always catch the fabric underneath when zipping them. I also get a wet arse. On the other hand the fit is decent, the jacket keeps me dry and warm down to about 4degC without additional layers.
Edited for spelling
t velcro to the ankles resulting in flappy-ness and cuffs that always catch the fabric underneath when zipping them. I also get a wet arse. On the other hand the fit is decent, the jacket keeps me dry and warm down to about 4degC without additional layers.Edited for spelling
Edited by Tribal Chestnut on Tuesday 21st March 11:18
In other news I got pulled over today heading down Park Lane, thought it was 40, but it's 30. 40 is only on the north-bound side.
One of those unpleasant moments where the lights go on and you slow down expecting them to pass, but they don't. End result was a telling off, so I can't complain.
One of those unpleasant moments where the lights go on and you slow down expecting them to pass, but they don't. End result was a telling off, so I can't complain.
Tribal Chestnut said:
In other news I got pulled over today heading down Park Lane, thought it was 40, but it's 30. 40 is only on the north-bound side.
One of those unpleasant moments where the lights go on and you slow down expecting them to pass, but they don't. End result was a telling off, so I can't complain.
I get the impression in London a telling off/word happens when they clearly can see you sticking to what you believe a speed limit is and clearly not taking the p*ss. Similar situation for me maybe 2 years ago when Southwalk made pretty much all their streets 20mph reduced from 30mph. A road I'd travelled on for more than 10 years daily as a 30 limit suddenly became a 20mph and I'd failed to notice the new 20limit signs which had gone up - I spotted the bike cop in my mirrors are stuck to a perfect 30 on my speedo.. opps queue a strong word at the next lights and being sent on my way.One of those unpleasant moments where the lights go on and you slow down expecting them to pass, but they don't. End result was a telling off, so I can't complain.
Tribal Chestnut said:
In other news I got pulled over today heading down Park Lane, thought it was 40, but it's 30. 40 is only on the north-bound side.
One of those unpleasant moments where the lights go on and you slow down expecting them to pass, but they don't. End result was a telling off, so I can't complain.
Yeah, because South bound is so much more dangerous than the opposite side of the roadOne of those unpleasant moments where the lights go on and you slow down expecting them to pass, but they don't. End result was a telling off, so I can't complain.
You couldn't make it up. WTF goes through the planners heads
Orchestrated to catch you out in the same way as the bus lanes
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