What pads

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Brummmie

5,284 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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I tried most of them when Club/National Racing, Carbone Lorraine were the best, a couple of others had the sameish bite, but wore out far quicker.

http://www.cl-brakes.com/en/products/bikes/range/

podman

8,849 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Nothing to add other than I watched a BSB team just a couple of years replace their knackered aftermarket pads with genuine Honda pads in their Fireblades...

trickywoo

11,701 posts

229 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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podman said:
Nothing to add other than I watched a BSB team just a couple of years replace their knackered aftermarket pads with genuine Honda pads in their Fireblades...
Hrc maybe but I can't see a bsb running pads for a blade that a dealer would supply to Joe public for road use.

podman

8,849 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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trickywoo said:
podman said:
Nothing to add other than I watched a BSB team just a couple of years replace their knackered aftermarket pads with genuine Honda pads in their Fireblades...
Hrc maybe but I can't see a bsb running pads for a blade that a dealer would supply to Joe public for road use.
Nope, bonafide road pads..I was with the team for the weekend and asked the same question.

For my needs, as a road rider, I do think aftermarket pads have got a lot better (I have 3 different manufacturers in my bikes at the moment) but regards disc wear/performance, modern OE pads are hard to beat IMHO, shame they usually cost a lot more.

trickywoo

11,701 posts

229 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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podman said:
Nope, bonafide road pads..I was with the team for the weekend and asked the same question.

For my needs, as a road rider, I do think aftermarket pads have got a lot better (I have 3 different manufacturers in my bikes at the moment) but regards disc wear/performance, modern OE pads are hard to beat IMHO, shame they usually cost a lot more.
On the front?

snorky782

1,115 posts

98 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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trickywoo said:
Hrc maybe but I can't see a bsb running pads for a blade that a dealer would supply to Joe public for road use.
No chance. They don't have the same calipers as the standard road bike.

Brummmie

5,284 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Carbone Lorraine supply Jonny Zarco



OE pads..3 laps??

Edited by Brummmie on Tuesday 3rd May 23:32

mckeann

2,986 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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For what it's worth. Until I started using brembo calipers, I always used standard pads in my standard calipers on the R1 and the blade. It was only when I changed to brembo calipers that I tried brembo and other aftermarket pads and ended up with the Z04. I am VERY fat though, which takes a lot of stopping power.

So, I can believe that superstock 1000 teams might use standard pads in their bikes. Not BSB as they usually change the calipers.

hebegb

1,523 posts

146 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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mckeann said:
For what it's worth. Until I started using brembo calipers, I always used standard pads in my standard calipers on the R1 and the blade. It was only when I changed to brembo calipers that I tried brembo and other aftermarket pads and ended up with the Z04. I am VERY FAST though, which takes a lot of stopping power.

So, I can believe that superstock 1000 teams might use standard pads in their bikes. Not BSB as they usually change the calipers.
Mended for you , you fat bugger !
smile

mckeann

2,986 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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hebegb said:
Mended for you , you fat bugger !
smile
i'm only fast for a trackdayer. Some day, i might get a race license and go get my ass kicked by the really fast guys.

mckeann

2,986 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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anonymous said:
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I know what you're getting at, but all the brembo calipers i have seen use a different pad size and fitment from Honda, yamaha, suzuki and kawasaki (i.e nissin and tokico)

The top spec 2K a caliper Brembos use individual pads per piston

Steve Bass

10,186 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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mckeann said:
I know what you're getting at, but all the brembo calipers i have seen use a different pad size and fitment from Honda, yamaha, suzuki and kawasaki (i.e nissin and tokico)

The top spec 2K a caliper Brembos use individual pads per piston
Funnily enough, Brembo seem to use Ducati pattern pads. Mine run the Ducati 996/Aprilia RS250 shape pads with the 2 pins or the full one piece billet items run the 4 seperate pads per caliper like the Ducati 999 series.
Very handy as I have a st ton laying around.....

mckeann

2,986 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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Steve Bass said:
mckeann said:
I know what you're getting at, but all the brembo calipers i have seen use a different pad size and fitment from Honda, yamaha, suzuki and kawasaki (i.e nissin and tokico)

The top spec 2K a caliper Brembos use individual pads per piston
Funnily enough, Brembo seem to use Ducati pattern pads. Mine run the Ducati 996/Aprilia RS250 shape pads with the 2 pins or the full one piece billet items run the 4 seperate pads per caliper like the Ducati 999 series.
Very handy as I have a st ton laying around.....
I thought it was the other way around, that Ducati use brembo calipers???

Steve Bass

10,186 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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mckeann said:
Steve Bass said:
mckeann said:
I know what you're getting at, but all the brembo calipers i have seen use a different pad size and fitment from Honda, yamaha, suzuki and kawasaki (i.e nissin and tokico)

The top spec 2K a caliper Brembos use individual pads per piston
Funnily enough, Brembo seem to use Ducati pattern pads. Mine run the Ducati 996/Aprilia RS250 shape pads with the 2 pins or the full one piece billet items run the 4 seperate pads per caliper like the Ducati 999 series.
Very handy as I have a st ton laying around.....
I thought it was the other way around, that Ducati use brembo calipers???
Sorry, i mean for their non OEM calipers/ high end...

If you look at the 2 piece or billet items, they run the same pattern used on the older Ducati Brembo calipers. A friend has the Nickel plated calipers and they use the old 2 pin pattern. Main advantage is you can remove the pads wothout demounting the caliper.. Pull the R clips, remove the pins and the pads pop out the back of the caliper. Saves a load of faffing with rewire wrapping the bolts again
My RSV4 however uses the newer OEM pattern with the ears top and bottom as locaters, no pins. Calipers need to be dropped to remove the pads due t the "ears" and a central bridge across the back of the caliper. 1098 type etc..

podman

8,849 posts

239 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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mckeann said:
So, I can believe that superstock 1000 teams might use standard pads in their bikes. Not BSB as they usually change the calipers.
Sorry, you and others are correct , my mistake , it was a Superstock Blade. It was a few years back and I remember being at BSB!

Still, if its good enough for them...

snorky782

1,115 posts

98 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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podman said:
Sorry, you and others are correct , my mistake , it was a Superstock Blade. It was a few years back and I remember being at BSB!

Still, if its good enough for them...
No dispute there, just like those who ask if a Pirelli SuperCorsa is a good enough tyre for them on their first ever trackday hehe

mckeann

2,986 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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podman said:
Sorry, you and others are correct , my mistake , it was a Superstock Blade. It was a few years back and I remember being at BSB!

Still, if its good enough for them...
Totally agree. The brakes on my blade were awesome and I used standard Honda pads.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Steve Bass said:
Main advantage is you can remove the pads wothout demounting the caliper.. Pull the R clips, remove the pins and the pads pop out the back of the caliper. Saves a load of faffing with rewire wrapping the bolts again
Are there any 4 pot bike calipers that you have to remove to get to the pads? I've had bikes with Brembo, Tokico and Nissin calipers and they've all had pins to retain the pads, I thought that was pretty standard.

mckeann

2,986 posts

228 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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The brembo M4 / M50 series of calipers is pinless and needs to be removed. Not sure of others.

Biker's Nemesis

38,534 posts

207 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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My Brembo M4 calipers were pinless, the took the same pads as the BMW HP4 and the Paingale.