What pads

[Mr2Mike]

Well that's my new thing learnt for today I guess not having pins to remove the pads from the top means the caliper can be made stiffer.

fergus said:

George didn't mention lever pressure, but piston pressure. I can't see any fault in his logic above?

Sorry I didn't notice your reply as the quoting was a bit broken.

Lever pressure and piston pressure are intrinsically coupled by the ratio of the MC and caliper pistons.

George's logic failure is to suggest that pads that require less piston (or equivalently lever) pressure due to higher coefficient of friction must have better "stopping power" (i.e. you can scrub off speed more quickly, or more often). It isn't that simple.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Thursday 5th May 18:27

[George111]

Mr2Mike said:

George111 said:

This is what discussions about EBC always descend into . . . Oh No It's Not . . . . It's like a Pantomime !

The higher the Mu figure the less you need to squeeze the lever. So a Brembo pad with a 0.8Mu rating will stop you faster than an EBC pad with a 0.7Mu rating, for the same piston pressure.

Lever pressure is not "stopping power", as I'm sure you are aware, but don't stop grasping at straws on my behalf I suppose if you had such a limp grip that it limited braking, then perhaps you'd need the highest possible friction material in order to stop. Normal people do not.

George111 said:

I have used EBC HH on my road and track bikes. They were rubbish.

The problem was not the pads, since they are well proven to be excellent. Suggest you check out the rest of the braking system, and if that's ok its probably time to replace the rider.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Tuesday 3rd May 12:43

If you look I said "for the same piston pressure". So a 0.7 pad in the same bike as a 0.8 pad will stop is less quickly than the 0.8 pad. That's not my opinion but basic physics.

Limp grip Gutter comments are used when the argument is lost so thanks for admitting it

[moanthebairns]

Where can I get Ebc gpfx or whatever the fk they are called on a bogof.

Or a similar calibre of pad for 60 quid. Track only not road.

[SAS Tom]

Get them from bike hps that's who's got the offer on.

[snorky782]

moanthebairns said:

Where can I get Ebc gpfx or whatever the fk they are called on a bogof.

Or a similar calibre of pad for 60 quid. Track only not road.

There you go

http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/EBC_GPFAX_Race_Bra...

They're usually about £120, but net down to £60 when you price in the free set.

Edited by snorky782 on Wednesday 25th May 21:00

[Fleegle]

EBC are shyte. It's been proven

You are a mug if you buy these and will more than likely suffer brake failre

[moanthebairns]

snorky782 said:

moanthebairns said:

Where can I get Ebc gpfx or whatever the fk they are called on a bogof.

Or a similar calibre of pad for 60 quid. Track only not road.

There you go

http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/EBC_GPFAX_Race_Bra...

They're usually about £120, but net down to £60 when you price in the free set.

Edited by snorky782 on Wednesday 25th May 21:00

That's the one I got them from before. Tah. Couldn't remember it

[George111]

Fleegle said:

EBC are shyte. It's been proven

You are a mug if you buy these and will more than likely suffer brake failre

Absolutely

[AdamLoewy]

I've always aspired to be a mug too, so have bought a set of these awful, death trap pads. RIP me.