People in oncoming cars going mental at you for wheelies

People in oncoming cars going mental at you for wheelies

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neelyp

1,691 posts

212 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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sc0tt said:
Maybe its because you are usually doing 150mph when you are on the back wheel hehe

Every time I see a kid and they shout "do a wheelie", i know the future of biking is safe.
Does this happen both times you take your bike out each year?

sc0tt

18,054 posts

202 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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neelyp said:
sc0tt said:
Maybe its because you are usually doing 150mph when you are on the back wheel hehe

Every time I see a kid and they shout "do a wheelie", i know the future of biking is safe.
Does this happen both times you take your bike out each year?
Yes.

3DP

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9,917 posts

235 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Crossflow Kid said:
3DP said:
Reardy Mister said:
Wheelies are no less than a public service. Those blessed with the ability have a veritable civic duty to conduct them whenever the opportunity arises. Anything in response other than rapturous applause or a grateful display of mammaries is tantamount to treason. Ignorance at the very least. It's the modern day equivalent of a noble knight rearing his trusty steed onto its hind legs, so that all around recognise him as a man of prodigious talent and steely resolve.

Sadly, even yer garden variety overtake is met with apoplectic rage from the Mail-reading lemmings, these days. As every right thinking Honda Jazz driver knows, beyond 55mph lies nought but death and destruction.
It's like you are in my head.

Here's another one - you can legally ride a unicycle on the public road. Are unicyclists met with the same level of venom by each passing car? No - I would imagine the same 'feral with rage' driver, would greet them with a wry smile and perhaps turn down radio 4 briefly to say to his wife "What a character, eh?"
Yes, but the critical difference (brace yourself).....is that a unicycle is designed to have only one point of contact.
A motorbikey is designed to have two.
Sorry about that.
But the skills and principles are the same. Does this also mean that if someone converted a bike to a stunt bike, with an angled seat, designed specifically to wheelie, then it would be ok? If you can wheelie, then like a unicyclist, you are in no more dangerous state when monowheeling, than when on two wheels.

giantdefy

684 posts

114 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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So someone heading on the other side of the road at you at speed when in not full control of their vehicle is to be applauded if vehicle = wheelying bike but condemned if vehicle = texting in a Clio?

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

223 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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3DP said:
Crossflow Kid said:
3DP said:
Reardy Mister said:
Wheelies are no less than a public service. Those blessed with the ability have a veritable civic duty to conduct them whenever the opportunity arises. Anything in response other than rapturous applause or a grateful display of mammaries is tantamount to treason. Ignorance at the very least. It's the modern day equivalent of a noble knight rearing his trusty steed onto its hind legs, so that all around recognise him as a man of prodigious talent and steely resolve.

Sadly, even yer garden variety overtake is met with apoplectic rage from the Mail-reading lemmings, these days. As every right thinking Honda Jazz driver knows, beyond 55mph lies nought but death and destruction.
It's like you are in my head.

Here's another one - you can legally ride a unicycle on the public road. Are unicyclists met with the same level of venom by each passing car? No - I would imagine the same 'feral with rage' driver, would greet them with a wry smile and perhaps turn down radio 4 briefly to say to his wife "What a character, eh?"
Yes, but the critical difference (brace yourself).....is that a unicycle is designed to have only one point of contact.
A motorbikey is designed to have two.
Sorry about that.
But the skills and principles are the same. Does this also mean that if someone converted a bike to a stunt bike, with an angled seat, designed specifically to wheelie, then it would be ok? If you can wheelie, then like a unicyclist, you are in no more dangerous state when monowheeling, than when on two wheels.
That depends. Would you advocate cars careering around on two wheels, simply because they now are equal to motorcycles in terms of contact patches with the road?

hehe

3DP

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9,917 posts

235 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Reardy Mister said:
3DP said:
Crossflow Kid said:
3DP said:
Reardy Mister said:
Wheelies are no less than a public service. Those blessed with the ability have a veritable civic duty to conduct them whenever the opportunity arises. Anything in response other than rapturous applause or a grateful display of mammaries is tantamount to treason. Ignorance at the very least. It's the modern day equivalent of a noble knight rearing his trusty steed onto its hind legs, so that all around recognise him as a man of prodigious talent and steely resolve.

Sadly, even yer garden variety overtake is met with apoplectic rage from the Mail-reading lemmings, these days. As every right thinking Honda Jazz driver knows, beyond 55mph lies nought but death and destruction.
It's like you are in my head.

Here's another one - you can legally ride a unicycle on the public road. Are unicyclists met with the same level of venom by each passing car? No - I would imagine the same 'feral with rage' driver, would greet them with a wry smile and perhaps turn down radio 4 briefly to say to his wife "What a character, eh?"
Yes, but the critical difference (brace yourself).....is that a unicycle is designed to have only one point of contact.
A motorbikey is designed to have two.
Sorry about that.
But the skills and principles are the same. Does this also mean that if someone converted a bike to a stunt bike, with an angled seat, designed specifically to wheelie, then it would be ok? If you can wheelie, then like a unicyclist, you are in no more dangerous state when monowheeling, than when on two wheels.
That depends. Would you advocate cars careering around on two wheels, simply because they now are equal to motorcycles in terms of contact patches with the road?

hehe
I think the main reason you don't see this more is due to a lack of adequate launch ramps on the public roads. What you do see on the roads is the odd hot hatch lifting an inside rear wheel. Is this person in any less control? I don't think so.

Esceptico

7,514 posts

110 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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TBH if the front wheel goes up I'm too pleased and too concerned about getting it back down without falling off to notice anyone else's reactions!

A couple of years back when I was just getting back on bikes I was testing a Duke 390. As I was riding along a bloke pulled out of a turning on the right on I think a 690, must have clocked that I was on the girly version and so hoisted the bike up and rode past me on his back wheel. It was still cool even if I was the butt of the joke.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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neelyp said:
Does this happen both times you take your bike out each year?
biglaugh


shandyboy

472 posts

155 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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I suspect it's frowned upon more due to the wheelie becoming popular with the chavvier/scratter element. I don't see that many 'proper' bikers doing it, but it looks good when done right.

Around Bradford you'll see the occasional wheelie, usually through a red light (as -most- cars have stopped either side of the light, so the chav can wheelie at speed between the queueing cars), wobbling side-to-side with little control. It doesn't do much for the image...


leighz

407 posts

133 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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giantdefy said:
So someone heading on the other side of the road at you at speed when in not full control of their vehicle is to be applauded if vehicle = wheelying bike but condemned if vehicle = texting in a Clio?
the difference being is the wheelie merchant is demonstrating excellent and highly attentive bike control (not an argument you'd use in court of course). Texter in their clio is looking at their phone. Not driving.

redback911 said:
Love the wheelies, and occasionally when it happens if I am driving they would get a big thumbs up for me. Maybe I am being a big girls blouse, but starting to wheelie less in front/past muggles these days myself; just too many dash cams around.
this is it - lot of extra cameras around now

(I can't even wheelie my mountain bike so think to try on a motorbike might be a bad idea)

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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I ruined my clutch last time I attempted a wheelie.

Quite embarrassing that was.

LiamB

7,940 posts

144 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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The reactions I used to get were funny. They ranged from a telling off from an off duty police officer, an old man going absolutely ballistic looking like he was about to throw himself at me just to stop me, to kids shouting to do it again and some thumbs up from people going by.

People are strange. I always give a thumbs up if I see anyone wheelying past thumbup

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,009 posts

103 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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redback911 said:
Love the wheelies, and occasionally when it happens if I am driving they would get a big thumbs up for me. Maybe I am being a big girls blouse, but starting to wheelie less in front/past muggles these days myself; just too many dash cams around.
Muggles is an excellent way to describe non riders! I might be adopting that one.

EagleMoto4-2

669 posts

105 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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You should come up to Liverpool, they love them up here. All the kids on their push bikes seem to constantly pull wheelies of their own, and when they see a biker they constantly gesture for you to demonstrate your wheelying prowess. I was never able to hold a wheelie on a pushbike as a kid so I do find myself slightly impressed with the length of time they can hold them, and at gravity defyingly slow speeds.

RemyMartin

6,759 posts

206 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Muggles is an excellent way to describe non riders! I might be adopting that one.
No its really not, it's as tragic as cagers imo.

Edited by RemyMartin on Friday 6th May 11:43

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,009 posts

103 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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RemyMartin said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Muggles is an excellent way to describe non riders! I might be adopting that one.
No its really not, it's as tragic as cagers imo.

Edited by RemyMartin on Friday 6th May 11:43
At this point has to be asked; do you ride? wink

3DP

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9,917 posts

235 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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shandyboy said:
I suspect it's frowned upon more due to the wheelie becoming popular with the chavvier/scratter element. I don't see that many 'proper' bikers doing it, but it looks good when done right.

Around Bradford you'll see the occasional wheelie, usually through a red light (as -most- cars have stopped either side of the light, so the chav can wheelie at speed between the queueing cars), wobbling side-to-side with little control. It doesn't do much for the image...
Wheelieing has always been popular with all areas of riders. The chavvier element are just more visible due to their penchant for doing it in inappropriate locations as you say, like past girls' schools or on high streets or generally urban areas.

The issue is the reaction to doing the wheelie in an appropriate location, with just the odd oncoming car or wildlife to admire your majesty and prowess.

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

223 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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RemyMartin said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Muggles is an excellent way to describe non riders! I might be adopting that one.
No its really not, it's as tragic as cagers imo.

Edited by RemyMartin on Friday 6th May 11:43
God I hate that term. It goes in the same basket as "twisties, rideout and Gixxer."

JCV8V

4 posts

113 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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One of my rides is a SuperMoto CRF450 on cut slicks with just horn and regplate running a daylight MOT restriction which has some sad folk foaming at mouth with anger when it's seen stationary at petrol station that it should even be on the road. Clearly that bike has few road miles on the front wheel which does attract more severe gesturing from the sorts of dumbass who should really be concentrating on driving with both hands on wheel at a heady 45mph in a national speed limit zone.

In fairness, if I go out for a blast in high performance luxury car, so not a boy racer hod road, even that gets the same sort of gesturing when driven in controlled fast manner, but not just from Mr and Mrs dumbass as my bikes do, but now also from Mr 'fast' Audi driver who would normally incur the gesturing himself but in this instance he is the giver because he is now suffering car envy.

But, when screaming around on my Cruiser (pics recently added to photo thread) which in straight line will out drag most 600cc bikes, Mr and Mrs dumbass and timid Mr Audi dare not gesture, in fact they pull to one side and even give way at junctions even if earlier I have hooned by them.

Rightfully drink driving became anti social in early 90's but speeding or any foolery on anything that isn't as benign as what Mr and Mrs dumbass drive their inbred kids around in has now become the same. Envy is probably the biggest reason though.

Wheelies, LOVE um. The cruiser won't pull one, my RG500 will but it ends up in tank slapper and being spat off, I have had blades and ZX9R which meant after a long wheelie the touch down speed in say 3rd would be a bit too high for my liking hence the SM. For me, the only reason for SM's existence is to be on back wheel which it can hold that verticle position in top gear at much safer lower speeds than Sports bikes

Before Mr and Mrs dumbass post on here about how reckless I am, well.. I am mid 40's and I have been hooning on 2 wheels since 16. Day after 17 birthday I had collosal crash on 125 which lead me to do as many training courses as I could to be a better rider, I even raced for a bit. Despite the controlled hooning I do that gets you mad, I haven't had another accident since 17 and would be beside myself if I caused anyone else to have an accident - so that won't ever happen. I hoon only in middle of sts nowhere countryside so if you see me coming on one wheel, keep both your six fingered hands on steering wheel, cos like me, any biker with front wheel up in the air knows what they are doing!!

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Your post reads better in an American accent.