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If what Hutchy and Dunlop said is true it does seem a bit odd, and I can see why Hutchy is pissed. The Tyco team has 'factory' backing yet doesn't get the best superbike engine (that with bottom end and top end), but Dunlop's non-factory team does as the engine is freely available on the open market. Either someones telling porkies or something ain't right 
anonymous said:
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That's how I feel, too. He doesn't need to make excuses. He's proved his worth. I just can't imagine him saying anything unless he felt it was true. He's always been magnanimous in defeat before- as they all are- and he's had a good week, so why would he be sour now?Pwig said:
I don't get it.
People moan about driver press conferences being boring and it all being in PR speak and the drivers don't have any character etc.
Then when the bike lads show it they then moan about not talking like that in public, and they should give a more PR friendly answer
Exactly, say it how it is its a refreshing change from all the PR bull sPeople moan about driver press conferences being boring and it all being in PR speak and the drivers don't have any character etc.
Then when the bike lads show it they then moan about not talking like that in public, and they should give a more PR friendly answer
t you see in car racing. TheLordJohn said:
Wasn't a fan of JM dig about the 135 lap, either.
Would be nice if they could all just congratulate MD for being the best man, on the best bike, on the day.
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I cant stand Dunlop but think he did a cracking job on the superbike this week. Would be nice if they could all just congratulate MD for being the best man, on the best bike, on the day.
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JM was taking the piss with the 135 comment.
Hutchy didn't but obviously something has gone on behind the scenes to upset him. As always JM just said it how it is and gave both riders praise for what they did in the race.
anonymous said:
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I should have been more clear. What I meant was; if both have Hutchy and Dunlop are correct (which I don't really doubt) why does the privateer BMW have a better superbike engine than the factory bike? I'm not very interested in the handbags over Hutchy's R6.
TheLordJohn said:
Respect for Hutchy has gone down a little bit after watching the press conference.
He has his gripes, well documented as they are, but I personally think a more grown up attitude would have been nice. Seemed rather petulant at the end of his questions.
He's gone down to a 7 in my book after that, not that he'll care...!
Wasn't a fan of JM dig about the 135 lap, either.
Would be nice if they could all just congratulate MD for being the best man, on the best bike, on the day.
On a side note, I'm sure no one cares and the more hardcore road racing fraternity have all but forgotten his name, but I think Guy Martin would have struggled to get anywhere at this years TT.
There's some seriously impressive lads in the top 10 now. Dean Harrisons' performances have really impressed me.
I agree he wouldn't be troubling the top 2. But he did a 132.3 in last years senior. I'm sure with the practice week they had this year he would have been on at least a similar pace. He has his gripes, well documented as they are, but I personally think a more grown up attitude would have been nice. Seemed rather petulant at the end of his questions.
He's gone down to a 7 in my book after that, not that he'll care...!
Wasn't a fan of JM dig about the 135 lap, either.
Would be nice if they could all just congratulate MD for being the best man, on the best bike, on the day.
On a side note, I'm sure no one cares and the more hardcore road racing fraternity have all but forgotten his name, but I think Guy Martin would have struggled to get anywhere at this years TT.
There's some seriously impressive lads in the top 10 now. Dean Harrisons' performances have really impressed me.
terry tibbs said:
using plastic bags for petrol 
oddly though why use pumps and not endurance style dispensers - just a tradition?
Partly tradition but as a result of that the guy putting on the rear tyre isn't under as much pressure to rush it through. oddly though why use pumps and not endurance style dispensers - just a tradition?
The Honda doesn't use as much fuel so will always be quicker although if they were using the 2016 upgrades that may not have been the case.
John D. said:
I should have been more clear. What I meant was; if both have Hutchy and Dunlop are correct (which I don't really doubt) why does the privateer BMW have a better superbike engine than the factory bike?
I'm not very interested in the handbags over Hutchy's R6.
It wouldn't but TAS/Tyco may have gone the wrong way in the way they tuned their engines Hawk/Buildbase wouldn't be able to buy a better engine than Tyco if that was the case they'd be beating the factory team in BSB to.I'm not very interested in the handbags over Hutchy's R6.
ZX10R NIN said:
It wouldn't but TAS/Tyco may have gone the wrong way in the way they tuned their engines Hawk/Buildbase wouldn't be able to buy a better engine than Tyco if that was the case they'd be beating the factory team in BSB to.
In which case Hutchy should be pissed with his team rather than Dunlop for having a better engine. Still seems odd to me. They basically agreed with each other that Dunlop had a better engine. Both receiving assistance from BMW technicians. All BMW competitors receive input from BMW Motorrad how each individual team goes about their setup is down to them Hutchy said his bike had big top end which will be down to how it's tuned Michael said his engines were bought just the same as anyone could.
To me that points to a tuning issue rather than one had better engines you might find that TAS had a BSB engine in which is good for circuit work but not so good on the road whereas Hawk had a more road orientated setup.
It'll be down to cams etc I bet there wasn't much in it but more down to feel which is all important around the course, it was a good end to some good racing I liked the needle it had been building, they'll both be back next year & it'll a cracker it also sets the Ulster GP up nicely
To me that points to a tuning issue rather than one had better engines you might find that TAS had a BSB engine in which is good for circuit work but not so good on the road whereas Hawk had a more road orientated setup.
It'll be down to cams etc I bet there wasn't much in it but more down to feel which is all important around the course, it was a good end to some good racing I liked the needle it had been building, they'll both be back next year & it'll a cracker it also sets the Ulster GP up nicely
I may have misunderstood but I thought Hutchy meant it was down to the team's decision over which engines to have on the island that was the issue and that's why they resorted to the s/stk motor for the senior as they only had the 'top-endy' ones with them as an alternative, not the full range ones MD had.
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