Caliper rebuild, fill & bleed - how much?

Caliper rebuild, fill & bleed - how much?

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Wildfire

9,790 posts

253 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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TTN, I know a very good mobile mechanic who specialises in Suzuki's. He rebuild my first GSX-R (K7 600) after an unfortunate incident involving a tax, a U-turn and a one way street. He also helped me out with a stripped drain plug on my first Monster.

He covers the South East, so may be worth giving him a ring?

http://premiermotorcycleserviceandrepair.co.uk/

Ollie is a very decent guy and very reasonable in prices. As he is mobile he can come to you.

Timbo_S2

534 posts

264 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Try www.mailorderrepairs.co.uk

I use them a lot for all my bikes, great service and James turns them round very quickly.

sjtscott

4,215 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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anonymous said:
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Ok you're in East London as am I. Is the bike rideable? Details like your bike and location on your original post would have got you information a hell of lot quicker! wink

Ok if you still want decent but not expensive recommended places to help:
You could try riverbank motorcycles just off the A12 north of the blackwall tunnel near the Bow interchange. They do MOT and all servicing.
Riverbank Motor Cycles Ltd
12, Dye House Ln
020 8983 4896

I use FWR (www.fwr.co.uk) for all my servicing and of course tyres, they are in Kennington - they will sort you out too. Obviously its further but its about 10mins from my office in central London hence I use them.

moanthebairns

17,954 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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buy internal caliper pistons now, best 15 quid you'll ever spend.

I cannot talk about using seals again I just replace both dust and piston.

trickywoo

11,870 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Having rebuilt a set of Tokicos just like yours I don't understand your question but I'll try to answer.

One of the seals has a v profile, this needs to be facing out so you can see it when fitted.

It'll make more sense when you have the seals in hand as it'll naturally only want to sit the right way otherwise It'll be like you've got it inside out.

The caliper half seals sit in a very shallow recess so be careful to ensure the halves don't pinch it when you put them back together.

I undid the caliper half bolts with a soft vice off the bike but if you don't have one you can reach through the spokes from the far side with an extension bar to undo them while still mounted. Same goes for torquing them up again.

moanthebairns

17,954 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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they grip the inside of the piston, they do mark it but that part doesn't matter. Try it with normal pillars and you could damage the piston that will in turn fk the seal. A few have made that mistake on here.

I've done it in the past with pillars. But wouldn't again its a pain in the arse.

moanthebairns

17,954 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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yes, you can. I have done in the past but I've always put a nick at the top, which you get away with but its really not worth fking about with the wrong tool for the job.

A guy on here done it, fked a piston seal and had to buy a new one. + in time and effort and possible new pads if the leaks bad its just not worth it.

They aren't cheap...I think motorsport tom got them made up that's how dear they were and even after getting the size wrong and doing another set he was still cheaper than buying new.

Also if its been in for years, they are a bd to get out and C/A only works till one fires out.

trickywoo

11,870 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Its quite easy to scratch the coating with normal pliers. I've never come across a properly stuck piston and normally you can use the hydraulics with them still fitted to force them out a good way so you can then get them out with fingers.

Internal piston pliers will save you grief if any of the pistons are stuck.

moanthebairns

17,954 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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anonymous said:
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They are worth every penny

moanthebairns

17,954 posts

199 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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That's far cleaner than I ever do mines. How did you get it so clean.

The nick looks like it'd be fine once out but I wouldn't push it down into the dust sheild. Others will advise differently perhaps but I have a similar nick on my ninja and no issues

kev b

2,715 posts

167 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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I would smooth out any raised bits on that nick with a stone or fine file and re use it .

kev b

2,715 posts

167 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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You can buy a five litre can from my local trade parts shop for £8.

Tall_Paul

1,915 posts

228 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Nice job, I only wish my pistons were as clean as yours!! frown

This is what mine looked like about 9 months ago (this was AFTER cleaning!) when I rebuilt the brakes (same as you, full strip down), the bike is on around 37k miles at the moment.


Before winter I may order a full set of brand new pistons and seals and get them properly rebuilt.

This was them before rebuilding, for anyone who likes horror pictures tongue out

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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You can get 5 litres from most motor factors for about £12.

abarber

1,686 posts

242 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Use a large syringe to back bleed them from the caliper. They are dirt cheap on ebay and work great.

They are definitely binding a bit. Before looking further, you could try a short low speed ride, dragging the front brake a little.


pozi

1,723 posts

188 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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New pads on old disks always makes the lever feel spongey to start with, as long as the bike actually stops ie. lever does not come back to the bars and you go sailing into junctions, I would give it a few miles to bed in properly before thinking you have done anything drastically wrong.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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New pads on worn discs always give a soft lever/pedal until bedded in I.M.E.

moto_traxport

4,237 posts

222 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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If you are using new pads on an old worn disc you can get a spongy feeling as described. You could bevel the top and bottom edges of the pads with a grinder if you were real fussy - my discs are 50k miles old and obviously on their wear limits but a few hard stops soon sorts them out (then they're a git to get off for wheel changes!).

Don't forget the old tie-up-the-brakes-overnight trick with a bungee / cable tie. Best done on the sidestand / leant against a wall to get the last air bubbles up through an 'open' master cylinder into the resevoir.

pozi

1,723 posts

188 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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moto_traxport said:
If you are using new pads on an old worn disc you can get a spongy feeling as described. You could bevel the top and bottom edges of the pads with a grinder if you were real fussy - my discs are 50k miles old and obviously on their wear limits but a few hard stops soon sorts them out (then they're a git to get off for wheel changes!).

Don't forget the old tie-up-the-brakes-overnight trick with a bungee / cable tie. Best done on the sidestand / leant against a wall to get the last air bubbles up through an 'open' master cylinder into the resevoir.
I think you will find pulling on the brake lever closes the reservoir circuit, otherwise your brake lever would not pump fluid into the brake calipers smile