Petrol Station Argument - Sitting on the Bike?
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Trabi601 said:
Remember, that person you abuse, that person 'getting their knickers in a twist', is the person you'll be relying on to put the fire out if it does go wrong.
A filling station checkout girl is almost literally the last person I would rely on to put me out if I was on fire.Disastrous said:
Trabi601 said:
Remember, that person you abuse, that person 'getting their knickers in a twist', is the person you'll be relying on to put the fire out if it does go wrong.
A filling station checkout girl is almost literally the last person I would rely on to put me out if I was on fire.They take lots of abuse from customers, work bloody hard, and have to go through a serious amount of health and safety related training every year.
As with air crew, they are not primarily there to take your money and smile at you - they are the person responsible for safety on the site.
Trabi601 said:
Disastrous said:
Trabi601 said:
Remember, that person you abuse, that person 'getting their knickers in a twist', is the person you'll be relying on to put the fire out if it does go wrong.
A filling station checkout girl is almost literally the last person I would rely on to put me out if I was on fire.They take lots of abuse from customers, work bloody hard, and have to go through a serious amount of health and safety related training every year.
As with air crew, they are not primarily there to take your money and smile at you - they are the person responsible for safety on the site.
Yet too busy to clean the diesel slick ...... which you justify
Diesel spillages are far higher in the accident ratings of motorcycles I would dare guess, than exploding fuel pumps after flaming bikes have been thrown on them. I bet you're ok with that as they will possibly have left your forecourt before being killed on the diesel soaked roundabout or just from the diesel on the tyres picked up from your premises you're too busy to clean, most likely because you're boring the larger biking community on here about why they should stand next to their bike on fire or about to be, rather than sit on it where they can get off pretty smartly too. No safety precaution for the guy getting off to fill up, yet holding the bike up to achieve the same thing, and holding the pump nozzle in the other hand, as long as he's not on it that's fine.
I understand the danger and health and safety, but you're H&S booklet sound about you possibly isn't for a petrol head site. If push came to shove you and the helpful girl in the kiosk would be standing there watching, or checking which page 'putting out fires' is on, then discovering the section that says you mustn't place yourself in danger when doing so, while a biker or other passer by puts the fire out.
Please advise the stations you might be at, with your handbook, so the bikers on here can go elsewhere rather than experience you pointing and waving your hands in blind panic, or at least let us come and get you so you can stand nearby with the extinguisher, please make sure it is in date, and the correct type for a fuel fire. Maybe paint some bike placement marks on the floor at an optimum distance from the pump
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Diesel spillages are far higher in the accident ratings of motorcycles I would dare guess, than exploding fuel pumps after flaming bikes have been thrown on them. I bet you're ok with that as they will possibly have left your forecourt before being killed on the diesel soaked roundabout or just from the diesel on the tyres picked up from your premises you're too busy to clean, most likely because you're boring the larger biking community on here about why they should stand next to their bike on fire or about to be, rather than sit on it where they can get off pretty smartly too. No safety precaution for the guy getting off to fill up, yet holding the bike up to achieve the same thing, and holding the pump nozzle in the other hand, as long as he's not on it that's fine.
I understand the danger and health and safety, but you're H&S booklet sound about you possibly isn't for a petrol head site. If push came to shove you and the helpful girl in the kiosk would be standing there watching, or checking which page 'putting out fires' is on, then discovering the section that says you mustn't place yourself in danger when doing so, while a biker or other passer by puts the fire out.
Please advise the stations you might be at, with your handbook, so the bikers on here can go elsewhere rather than experience you pointing and waving your hands in blind panic, or at least let us come and get you so you can stand nearby with the extinguisher, please make sure it is in date, and the correct type for a fuel fire. Maybe paint some bike placement marks on the floor at an optimum distance from the pump
)Trabi601 said:
Disastrous said:
Trabi601 said:
Remember, that person you abuse, that person 'getting their knickers in a twist', is the person you'll be relying on to put the fire out if it does go wrong.
A filling station checkout girl is almost literally the last person I would rely on to put me out if I was on fire.They take lots of abuse from customers, work bloody hard, and have to go through a serious amount of health and safety related training every year.
As with air crew, they are not primarily there to take your money and smile at you - they are the person responsible for safety on the site.
CarsOrBikes said:
Yet too busy to clean the diesel slick ...... which you justify
Diesel spillages are far higher in the accident ratings of motorcycles I would dare guess, than exploding fuel pumps after flaming bikes have been thrown on them. I bet you're ok with that as they will possibly have left your forecourt before being killed on the diesel soaked roundabout or just from the diesel on the tyres picked up from your premises you're too busy to clean, most likely because you're boring the larger biking community on here about why they should stand next to their bike on fire or about to be, rather than sit on it where they can get off pretty smartly too. No safety precaution for the guy getting off to fill up, yet holding the bike up to achieve the same thing, and holding the pump nozzle in the other hand, as long as he's not on it that's fine.
I understand the danger and health and safety, but you're H&S booklet sound about you possibly isn't for a petrol head site. If push came to shove you and the helpful girl in the kiosk would be standing there watching, or checking which page 'putting out fires' is on, then discovering the section that says you mustn't place yourself in danger when doing so, while a biker or other passer by puts the fire out.
Please advise the stations you might be at, with your handbook, so the bikers on here can go elsewhere rather than experience you pointing and waving your hands in blind panic, or at least let us come and get you so you can stand nearby with the extinguisher, please make sure it is in date, and the correct type for a fuel fire. Maybe paint some bike placement marks on the floor at an optimum distance from the pump)
Diesel spillages are far higher in the accident ratings of motorcycles I would dare guess, than exploding fuel pumps after flaming bikes have been thrown on them. I bet you're ok with that as they will possibly have left your forecourt before being killed on the diesel soaked roundabout or just from the diesel on the tyres picked up from your premises you're too busy to clean, most likely because you're boring the larger biking community on here about why they should stand next to their bike on fire or about to be, rather than sit on it where they can get off pretty smartly too. No safety precaution for the guy getting off to fill up, yet holding the bike up to achieve the same thing, and holding the pump nozzle in the other hand, as long as he's not on it that's fine.
I understand the danger and health and safety, but you're H&S booklet sound about you possibly isn't for a petrol head site. If push came to shove you and the helpful girl in the kiosk would be standing there watching, or checking which page 'putting out fires' is on, then discovering the section that says you mustn't place yourself in danger when doing so, while a biker or other passer by puts the fire out.
Please advise the stations you might be at, with your handbook, so the bikers on here can go elsewhere rather than experience you pointing and waving your hands in blind panic, or at least let us come and get you so you can stand nearby with the extinguisher, please make sure it is in date, and the correct type for a fuel fire. Maybe paint some bike placement marks on the floor at an optimum distance from the pump
)I agree with what mph1977 said:
yes you are an utter helmet , near enough an embodiment of the stereotypes aobut PHers .
Trabi601 said:
You may fancy your chances
So, 2 instances of fire versus every single time a biker has filled up sitting on their bike in the history of petrol stations.Err, yeah I will take those chances thank you very much.
This is just health & safety justifying its own existence / importance.
Trabi601 said:
for the safety of the employees, other customers and local residents, please comply.
What about the children? Won't someone think of the children!!
k to the cashier they're just doing as they've been asked to keep their job.Just flicking back through the thread I can't see a single example of this happening on a UK petrol station forecourt?
Surely there must be one?
Am I right in thinking US petrol pumps have a clicker on them that holds the pump open while the operator can release their grip? That would likely be the source of lack of attention and overfilling?
Personally, I do do this but, I would get off the bike if asked to do so by a member of staff. I'm also exceptionally careful when filling and watch what I'm doing very closely so highly unlikely to overfill.
Surely there must be one?
Am I right in thinking US petrol pumps have a clicker on them that holds the pump open while the operator can release their grip? That would likely be the source of lack of attention and overfilling?
Personally, I do do this but, I would get off the bike if asked to do so by a member of staff. I'm also exceptionally careful when filling and watch what I'm doing very closely so highly unlikely to overfill.
Here's the aftermath of a straddling fire at BP Newry.
This was a few days later, so the pump (which had largely melted) was covered over - the canopy is 4m high and suffered structural damage from the heat.
From what I know, it was only the actions of the staff on site which stopped this from becoming a much bigger incident - they got everything shut down and the site evacuated very quickly.
This was a few days later, so the pump (which had largely melted) was covered over - the canopy is 4m high and suffered structural damage from the heat.
From what I know, it was only the actions of the staff on site which stopped this from becoming a much bigger incident - they got everything shut down and the site evacuated very quickly.
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