Please talk me out of a used K1600GT

Please talk me out of a used K1600GT

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Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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OP, what about a Triumph Trophy as an alternative?

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Rosscow said:
OP, what about a Triumph Trophy as an alternative?
The Trophy must be ste! laugh After the recent thread about the demise of the Trophy I sought out a few group tests and it seemed that aside from handling, the K1600GT is typically better at everything. Now we all know Triumph know the chassis magic and BMW have a good advertising department. I have tk admit the six cylinder in the BMW does sound attractive.

crofty1984

15,859 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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K1600? Isn't that the one that makes everyone think you have a really big willy?

casbar

1,103 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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I quite liked it, thought the engine was awesome. Bought an RT instead, mainly because of the weight. Try one of the K1600 forums and ask the question, there are lots who seem to like them


Here you go read this https://k6gtl.com/index.php/topic,1153.0.html

Edited by casbar on Wednesday 29th June 17:49

Max5476

985 posts

114 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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seems a lot of negativity. I always fancied one in my multi-bike fantasy garage as the ultimate motorway mile muncher, might have to swap it out with the R1200RT instead.

CoolHands

18,638 posts

195 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Look at the size of that mofo. Ridiculous


Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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It's interesting that the depreciation is so high, looking at BMW PCP offers they quote a £8948 GFV on a model with a £17490 list price. Based on three years at 15,000 miles a year.

I really don't see that as realistic.

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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CoolHands said:
Look at the size of that mofo. Ridiculous

I'm sure they're about 330kg!

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Baryonyx said:
I'm sure they're about 330kg!
About the same as a Pan Euro then, but somewhat nippier.
I recall a big BIKE mag tourer test with the K1600, an R-something BMW, the FJR13 and the 1300 Pan Euro.
Seem to recall they decided the K1600 was the mutt's nuts, the FJR was second, the other BMW third and the Pan last rolleyes
By pure coincidence that whole issue was full of glossy adverts for BMWs.
Good to see that all that is sugar-coated is not palatable.

Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Wedg1e said:
Baryonyx said:
I'm sure they're about 330kg!
About the same as a Pan Euro then, but somewhat nippier.
I recall a big BIKE mag tourer test with the K1600, an R-something BMW, the FJR13 and the 1300 Pan Euro.
Seem to recall they decided the K1600 was the mutt's nuts, the FJR was second, the other BMW third and the Pan last rolleyes
By pure coincidence that whole issue was full of glossy adverts for BMWs.
Good to see that all that is sugar-coated is not palatable.
I saw that test as well and to be fair they didn't say the Pan was a bad bike. It was just that since the Pan came out other manufacturers have started including various handy gadgets while the Honda is much the same as it was 15 years ago.

black-k1

11,927 posts

229 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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said:
Look at the size of that mofo. Ridiculous

Isn’t it strange that the physical size/weight of big touring bikes always tend to be criticized by those who have never ridden one, (you may have ridden one CoolHands and apologies if you have) yet the people that buy them tend to be those that are not as physically strong as they were 20, 30 or even 40 years ago, have often owned many different styles of bike from many different manufacturers, can generally afford to buy pretty much any bike on the market, and likely cover more miles each year on all types of road than you average sport bike rider does?

Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Baryonyx said:
I'm sure they're about 330kg!
360kg. That's 31kg more than the Pan European (as well as £8250 for expensive than the Honda).

Compared to the Goldwing at 421kg, quite light biggrin (akthough GoldWing is even more expensive).

Triumph Trophy at 295kg is positively skinny. Cheapest as well @ £14599.

Out of interest, the K1600 has a payload of 200kg. That's the same as our twin axle caravan!


Edited by Rosscow on Thursday 30th June 08:29

Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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I'll be honest, cruising the length of Europe on one of these and taking in the scenery definitely does appeal to me! boxedin

308mate

13,757 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Rosscow said:
Baryonyx said:
I'm sure they're about 330kg!
360kg. That's 31kg more than the Pan European (as well as £8250 for expensive than the Honda).

Compared to the Goldwing at 421kg, quite light biggrin (akthough GoldWing is even more expensive).

Triumph Trophy at 295kg is positively skinny. Cheapest as well @ £14599.

Out of interest, the K1600 has a payload of 200kg. That's the same as our twin axle caravan!


Edited by Rosscow on Thursday 30th June 08:29
I'm not massively concerned about weight these days. The RT is heavy but the weight distribution of the new one is a thing of beauty, you barely notice it. However, I seem to remember someone saying the 1600 *doesnt* have reverse. By the time you add two riders and luggage you'll be knocking on half a tonne. I'd hate to be frantically trying to scoot half a tonne out of the car park whilst all the Goldwing riders flick it in reverse and ride off. Bit of an oversight for a bike that has everything else, I think.

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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308mate said:
I'm not massively concerned about weight these days. The RT is heavy but the weight distribution of the new one is a thing of beauty, you barely notice it. However, I seem to remember someone saying the 1600 *doesnt* have reverse. By the time you add two riders and luggage you'll be knocking on half a tonne. I'd hate to be frantically trying to scoot half a tonne out of the car park whilst all the Goldwing riders flick it in reverse and ride off. Bit of an oversight for a bike that has everything else, I think.
I worked out that if you loaded the top box and panniers on the Pan Euro to the max. rating, filled the tank and added a 13 stone rider and a 10 stone pillion you'd be about 5Kg shy of half a tonne. You can feel it on your leg when you stop at a light after 200 miles on the Autoroute...!

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Rosscow said:
360kg. That's 31kg more than the Pan European (as well as £8250 for expensive than the Honda).

Compared to the Goldwing at 421kg, quite light biggrin (akthough GoldWing is even more expensive).

Triumph Trophy at 295kg is positively skinny. Cheapest as well @ £14599.
Last time I checked, the list price of the Pan was about £14500; Honda don't officially list it any more but there are still some at dealers. Quite how far down you could knock them I dunno... never been rich enough to buy a new bike!

Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Wedg1e said:
Rosscow said:
360kg. That's 31kg more than the Pan European (as well as £8250 for expensive than the Honda).

Compared to the Goldwing at 421kg, quite light biggrin (akthough GoldWing is even more expensive).

Triumph Trophy at 295kg is positively skinny. Cheapest as well @ £14599.
Last time I checked, the list price of the Pan was about £14500; Honda don't officially list it any more but there are still some at dealers. Quite how far down you could knock them I dunno... never been rich enough to buy a new bike!
It's on their website as £14699 OTR: http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/touring/s...

Obviously that's list price, so you'd like to think you'd get a better deal.

Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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I'd love a K1300S! Or a VFR1200.... or any bike, really biggrin