What's your kick-start technique?

What's your kick-start technique?

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crofty1984

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15,858 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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I've noticed start both my classics in the same and different way. If I'm stood to the side, either with it on the centre stand out just lifted up, I'll push just past compression then give it a good hard kick. However if I'm astride the bikes I'll get it ON compression, let it take my weight, then bounce and kick with my full bodyweight.

3DP

9,917 posts

234 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Only do it whilst astride. Nudge it just past compression/TDC and then a big boot. It's a big single. Still a fker when it's hot.

Löyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Push the lever down into position, take up the 'slack' in the mechanism and then swiftly drive the heel down and lift off at the bottom as you feel the motor spin.

freddytin

1,184 posts

227 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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I'm definitely a sit astride kicker...My old Dad always stands to the side and uses his left foot. Most odd .

Getting the correct amount of throttle prior to the swing is half the trick...Different for every bike

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Classic lc way, lift up footpeg and swing through kicker find it easier off the sidestand to be honest.

crofty1984

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15,858 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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When you say astride I assume you mean just balancing the bike, no centre stand? I'm scared I'll throw the bike over, but I'm trying to get used to it!
I'm most comfortable with the bike on the centre stand and me stood to the side, but I hear that can bend your stand?

pozi

1,723 posts

187 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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KTM with a left side kick start, being short there is no way I can sit on it and kick start it so I have to get off and stand to the left of the bike then kick start it with my right leg. I have only had to do the "waddle of shame" once to the side of the road when it run out of petrol at the front of a set of traffic lights.

Actually starts pretty easy though, nudge it just past compression and then one smooth kick all the way through.

freddytin

1,184 posts

227 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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crofty1984 said:
When you say astride I assume you mean just balancing the bike, no centre stand? I'm scared I'll throw the bike over, but I'm trying to get used to it!
I'm most comfortable with the bike on the centre stand and me stood to the side, but I hear that can bend your stand?
No problem on or off the centre stand , even propped up on the side stand, which actually is my preferred option on many bikes as I'm not exactly tall smile

Moulder

1,466 posts

212 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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pozi said:
KTM with a left side kick start, being short there is no way I can sit on it and kick start it so I have to get off and stand to the left of the bike then kick start it with my right leg. I have only had to do the "waddle of shame" once to the side of the road when it run out of petrol at the front of a set of traffic lights.

Actually starts pretty easy though, nudge it just past compression and then one smooth kick all the way through.
Used to have something similar with my 525 EXC, usual technique was to find a kicking tree to lean it up against.

srob

11,608 posts

238 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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I'd never start a bike on the stand, as it will bend your stand.

Singles and twins take a different method, I find. Parallel twins are just brute force, no need to fanny about looking for compression. Singles; find compression and ease just past then give it a good swing.

If you have a valve lifter/decompressor you can swing the kickstart and let go of that at the same time if it isn't too high a compression ratio/a Velocette smile

cjb44

679 posts

118 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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srob said:
I'd never start a bike on the stand, as it will bend your stand.

Singles and twins take a different method, I find. Parallel twins are just brute force, no need to fanny about looking for compression. Singles; find compression and ease just past then give it a good swing.

If you have a valve lifter/decompressor you can swing the kickstart and let go of that at the same time if it isn't too high a compression ratio/a Velocette smile
Yes absolutely right. I start my 1954 Matchless 500 Motocrosser by standing beside the bike as I find this easier; for sure you must give a single a long swinging kick if you just stab the kickstart lever then you could find yourself heading skyward as it kicks back!

robbocop33

1,184 posts

107 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Kickstarting a bike for me as i got older became a psychological barrier for me,due to the dozens of 500cc motocross bikes i would try and kickstart on a frosty morning since i was 14 years old.
Ripped boots,trousers,ankles,you name it it's happened to me!
The amount of severe kick backs i've had really affected me buying kickstart bikes later on.Made me laugh though when one day i bought two rgv 250's and they kicked over by hand!
Technique does very much depend on the bike,and even similar 'animals' can be very different,1981 Kawasaki air cooled kx500,just kicked it down and it fired right up,no tdc nonsense,1986 Honda cr500,every day clean idle jet!!Fanny about trying to get the perfect tdc where you can stand on it,then pray you don't break you're ankle or get catapulted off the bike when you clattered down with all your might!
1976 Kawasaki kh400 two stroke,just kick the damn thing and on your way! ;-)1957 matchless ë50cc g3ls,kick it dozens of times at will till it started,not a great feeling of much compression,just kick?

Edited by robbocop33 on Saturday 30th July 13:16

pitboard

512 posts

110 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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A good rule of thumb is that it takes as many kicks to start a bike as there are people watching.