Isle of Man Police release shocking video

[mantior]

Guys, if you are heading over here on 2 wheels, please be careful - this is pretty shocking and sad.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=173540...

[snorky782]

Ooooo that's a bit nasty. The body flying up on the right after the impact and lying there on fire is a bit gruesome too. The German rider who caused it looked a liability the moment he passed the camera bike. His whole body position suggests someone who really couldn't ride.

[binka1000]

Yeah that's not great to watch, like you said seeing him on fire at the end. Rip

[Jazoli]

Surprise surprise, bikes are dangerous, and some tt coming the other way can kill you, nothing new here.

[Cfnteabag]

Bloody hell!

Even though you knew there was going to be an accident the severity and ferocity of it took my breath away.

Does it say anywhere what happened to the other rider, injuries and if appropriate punishment?

[Andy XRV]

Over the years there have been so many head on collisions on the mountain that during the whole of the TT both practice and race week the unrestricted section is one way. Maybe the police should adopt that strategy for all other bike meetings including The Festival of Motorcycling.

[Biker 1]

Holy fk that was not good.
A nice sunny day, & kaboooom....
RIP

[308mate]

What a stty stty thing to see. I certainly don't want to diminish the severity or loss but, this took a staggering set of circumstances to line up to get this result. The knob had been on the wrong side for ages and wasn't looking, the oncoming bike inexplicably didn't see him and then two objects 1.5ft across somehow met head on.

I appreciate the reasons behind the police and so on posting these but for me I still manage to always file them under "it won't happen to me". If I couldn't do that, how would I distinguish between seeing something of this severity and seeing a more minor off? I'd never leave the house.

[308mate]

Andy XRV said:

Over the years there have been so many head on collisions on the mountain that during the whole of the TT both practice and race week the unrestricted section is one way. Maybe the police should adopt that strategy for all other bike meetings including The Festival of Motorcycling.

Is that not just legislating for the lowest common denominator? What next, remove the engines from all visiting bikes for big events? Of course not. As I was explaining to someone recently who hurt themselves and tried to lay the blame elsewhere, biking has absolute accountability. That's one of the reasons we do it, isn't it?

[Hackney]

So the bike with the panniers that passed the camera bike just after the accident, slowed down weaved through the flames and debris....what the fk????

[Andy XRV]

308mate said:

Andy XRV said:

Over the years there have been so many head on collisions on the mountain that during the whole of the TT both practice and race week the unrestricted section is one way. Maybe the police should adopt that strategy for all other bike meetings including The Festival of Motorcycling.

Is that not just legislating for the lowest common denominator? What next, remove the engines from all visiting bikes for big events? Of course not. As I was explaining to someone recently who hurt themselves and tried to lay the blame elsewhere, biking has absolute accountability. That's one of the reasons we do it, isn't it?

From a safety point of view it's a very simple way of reducing accidents and deaths during an event. It's no different from putting special measures in place during any large event. The IOM and the mountain is an iconic attraction which will attract the good, the bad and the nutters. So unfortunaly the organisers have to plan for all of them.

[Sam All]

Hackney said:

So the bike with the panniers that passed the camera bike just after the accident, slowed down weaved through the flames and debris....what the fk????

Does look odd, wondering if he stopped a bit further up for safety.

[mantior]

308mate said:

What a stty stty thing to see. I certainly don't want to diminish the severity or loss but, this took a staggering set of circumstances to line up to get this result. The knob had been on the wrong side for ages and wasn't looking, the oncoming bike inexplicably didn't see him and then two objects 1.5ft across somehow met head on.

I appreciate the reasons behind the police and so on posting these but for me I still manage to always file them under "it won't happen to me". If I couldn't do that, how would I distinguish between seeing something of this severity and seeing a more minor off? I'd never leave the house.

I travel this road daily on the way to work and back, and it may seem like a crazy circumstance, but the same thing happemed in a very similar way to 2 vans in the exact same spot only 8 months previous, killing a friend of mines nephew.

There has been many other incidents over the years. In my 10,000+ trips over the mountain I have had to resort to some pretty extreme moves over the years to stay accident free. I can tell you that riding on grass at 120mph is not much fun, nor is having to physically choose the gap between 2 overtaking cars coming the other way. But it does teach you to do everyone else's thinking on the road!

[Wedg1e]

Hackney said:

So the bike with the panniers that passed the camera bike just after the accident, slowed down weaved through the flames and debris....what the fk????

What would you have him do, stop and add to the chaos? Pretty soon there'd be emergency services vehicles hurtling that way and finding a load of bikes parked up and riders stood round with their thumbs up their arses wouldn't help anyone. Besides, not everyone's a hero in a crisis and they're better off out of the way.

It did look like he was pulling in right at the end of the clip.

[Auntieroll]

snorky782 said:

Ooooo that's a bit nasty. The body flying up on the right after the impact and lying there on fire is a bit gruesome too. The German rider who caused it looked a liability the moment he passed the camera bike. His whole body position suggests someone who really couldn't ride.

Unfortunately both riders died in this incident , don't know about the guy who took to the verge in avoidance, presumably he was OK.
I live on the Island and just driving to and from work for a week or so either side of the TT/Manx can be frightening with f×#&kwits appearing over the centre line in blind corners, (especially 13th/Westwoods) this year alone I had 2 incidents that could have been messy but for luck, ie half expecting it, and talking to other locals there are many more similar occurances.
Its a pity that these events are marred by a few idiots who get the "Red Mist" when allowed to ride with few speed limits, when I attended the TT before The Mountain was (very wisely IMHO) made one way during the event.
These measures are a pain for many locals who have to do the everyday things the visitors do when they are not on holiday, what the majority of visitors to the Island fail to realise is that a significant number of the inconvenienced ( non-motorcycling) locals would like to see the end of TT.
Hopefully that will never happen.

[big trousers]

i seen a video of a biker with a passenger on the back taking a corner at speed, truck coming the opposite direction, he was leaning into the corner and his passengers head was lopped off with the impact of hitting the front corner of the truck.

if you play stupid games you will win a stupid prize eventually.

[snorky782]

Cfnteabag said:

Bloody hell!

Even though you knew there was going to be an accident the severity and ferocity of it took my breath away.

Does it say anywhere what happened to the other rider, injuries and if appropriate punishment?

He died too

[SteveSteveson]

308mate said:

Andy XRV said:

Over the years there have been so many head on collisions on the mountain that during the whole of the TT both practice and race week the unrestricted section is one way. Maybe the police should adopt that strategy for all other bike meetings including The Festival of Motorcycling.

Is that not just legislating for the lowest common denominator? What next, remove the engines from all visiting bikes for big events? Of course not. As I was explaining to someone recently who hurt themselves and tried to lay the blame elsewhere, biking has absolute accountability. That's one of the reasons we do it, isn't it?

Clearly there are people who are taking innocent people with them. That's the issue. If this was just people crashing and taking themselves out then you might have a point, but it's not.

[Birky_41]

That was horrendous

I know what the video is aimed at doing but it just puts a lump in my throat and puts me off a bit to be honest

[StuB]

mantior said:

I travel this road daily on the way to work and back, and it may seem like a crazy circumstance, but the same thing happemed in a very similar way to 2 vans in the exact same spot only 8 months previous, killing a friend of mines nephew.

There has been many other incidents over the years. In my 10,000+ trips over the mountain I have had to resort to some pretty extreme moves over the years to stay accident free. I can tell you that riding on grass at 120mph is not much fun, nor is having to physically choose the gap between 2 overtaking cars coming the other way. But it does teach you to do everyone else's thinking on the road!

Well said.

This needs to be understood.

Horrible st happens every day.

Just try to reduce the chance of it being you.

Refuse to watch gruesome clickbait myself, but think from the comments this one may be X rated.