Is RRS TDV6 slow etc

Is RRS TDV6 slow etc

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jakesmith

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171 months

Sunday 14th August 2016
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I have an Evoque 2.2 remapped, which I find just about OK from a performance POV, very slow off the mark. OK when moving but not great. OK with just me driving but feels it loaded up. Looking for something larger as 2nd baby coming

I can afford to buy a 2010 RRS 3.0TDV6 or 2010 RR 3.6 TDV8. I am not overly keen on spunking loads of extra money on fuel, but is the 3.0 TD thirsty & slower than the evoque? The V8 looks better performance wise but I don't want a car that only does 20MPG it's just too painful
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coetzeeh

2,648 posts

236 months

Sunday 14th August 2016
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I have a facelift RRS TDV8 and getting 27,5 mpg combined, tank after tank - ok I don't have a lead foot. I believe the SDV6 is better on fuel but no hugely so.

Unless you are doing material mileage I don't think you'll notice the difference in cost. Biased I know but the TDV8 sounds and feels so much better.


jakesmith

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171 months

Sunday 14th August 2016
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Annual milage is only 7k but I already have a 997 for fun, this is for the wife so no need for anything fun like a V8 supercharged, don't want to spend a fortune on diesel when it's only for humdrum use mainly
I can only afford the V8 if we buy the FFRR as it seems to have dropped more than the Sport for the V8, and wife wants the sport as it's easier to park in Waitrose
Am concerned that the 3.0 TDV8 will be slow & still thirsty though

A.J.M

7,908 posts

186 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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It will use more fuel but I doubt it will be slower. Think mid to high 20s and you should be in that area.

They are about 245 bhp, 8.8 to 60mph.

Have you sat in and drive one?

jakesmith

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Monday 15th August 2016
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I've not driven one, I tend to give more weight to opinions of people who have driven them, that a short test drive with my wife and a sales person in the car

A.J.M

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186 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Only because when I sat in and drove a mates mums model.
60 plate, 3.0 hse with 6 speed auto so similar to what you are looking at.

I found it rather crampt and not overly spacious. At 5,8 and 11.6 stone. I ain't massive but didn't like it.

jakesmith

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171 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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I just started the process of phoning dealerships today about test frives, trade in etc, to be honest it is so painful and long winded I might just buy a roof box for the Evoque

coetzeeh

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236 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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jakesmith said:
Am concerned that the 3.0 TDV8 will be slow & still thirsty though
You mean the 3.6 TDV8?

It is a heavy car - but to give you an idea - very similar acceleration to the latest A4 2.0 TDi, if not slightly quicker. Ample mid range punch, and the TDV8 responds well to a remap which will should increase power to north of 320 and torque by a decent amount.

Drive one.

jakesmith

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Monday 15th August 2016
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coetzeeh said:
You mean the 3.6 TDV8?

It is a heavy car - but to give you an idea - very similar acceleration to the latest A4 2.0 TDi, if not slightly quicker. Ample mid range punch, and the TDV8 responds well to a remap which will should increase power to north of 320 and torque by a decent amount.

Drive one.
Sorry I mean the 3.0 TDV6

colonel c

7,890 posts

239 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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A.J.M said:
Only because when I sat in and drove a mates mums model.
60 plate, 3.0 hse with 6 speed auto so similar to what you are looking at.

I found it rather crampt and not overly spacious. At 5,8 and 11.6 stone. I ain't massive but didn't like it.
Funny you say that. Mrs colonel c and I are both short arses and have no problems with our 2011 RRS (3.0 V6) but we only commented today that tall people might find them a tad cramped high wise.
As far as the OP's question goes. I'm more than happy with the V6's performance. Fuel consumption is around 28-30. Naturally it's not going to be as nimble as an Evoque. I find the steering a little slow so tend not to chuck it into corners too fast, which is probably a good thing.

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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If you're only doing 7k miles pa then buy the supercharged RRS. You're on the crossover between initial vehicle cost and fuel costs balancing out and the overall difference will be negligible. No need for stinky diesel at that mileage.

Crumpet

3,894 posts

180 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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My Dad has an 11 plate Sport with the TDV6 - power is ample for normal driving and it handles better than the equivalent Disco (compared to my MY15 Disco). Economy is mid 20s consistently. I like it from a driving point of view.

What I don't like are the cramped rear seats, the feeling of a low roof in the front seats and the sloping rear end destroying a good chunk of practicality. When me and my wife have borrowed it we've found it seriously compromised in comparison to a Discovery and would never choose one as a family car. My friend has a Skoda Octavia estate and that has significantly more space in both the rear seats and the boot than the RRS - I'm not saying buy a Skoda, just that a normal estate car is far more practical than a RRS. My advice, buy a Discovery!

Edit: Just seen that you're coming from an Evoque. A RRS will seem positively cavernous after coming from one of those, so I guess it's all relative! I've had Evoques as courtesy cars and they really are too small as a family car, even a Focus seems to have more space.

Edited by Crumpet on Monday 15th August 23:43

jakesmith

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Impasse said:
If you're only doing 7k miles pa then buy the supercharged RRS. You're on the crossover between initial vehicle cost and fuel costs balancing out and the overall difference will be negligible. No need for stinky diesel at that mileage.
How does that work. The supercharged one is no cheaper to buy and at 15mpg vs 25 would cost me an extra £1000 in fuel a year, how can that be a crosover betweenn the 2 fuel types?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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jakesmith said:
this is for the wife so no need for anything fun
jakesmith said:
it's only for humdrum use mainly
jakesmith said:
Am concerned that the 3.0 TDV8 will be slow & still thirsty though
Conflicting opinions maybe?

jakesmith

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
Conflicting opinions maybe?
Well yes I suppose but the 0-60 on the 3.0 tdv6 is even slower than the evoque and the evoque is not great at pulling out onto busy roads and roundabouts due to it's lag and sluggishness


300bhp/ton

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190 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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jakesmith said:
Well yes I suppose but the 0-60 on the 3.0 tdv6 is even slower than the evoque and the evoque is not great at pulling out onto busy roads and roundabouts due to it's lag and sluggishness
I don't have an Evoque, but I can't believe it can be that bad. There are certainly plenty of slower cars about.... A lot slower. And they manage to navigate the UK road network without issue.

Let's face it, the SDV6 has a better 0-60mph time than a Golf GTI, when hot hatches were first invented. So do you think a Golf GTI would also be too sluggish for busy roads and junctions?

Crumpet

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180 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
I don't have an Evoque, but I can't believe it can be that bad. There are certainly plenty of slower cars about.... A lot slower. And they manage to navigate the UK road network without issue.

Let's face it, the SDV6 has a better 0-60mph time than a Golf GTI, when hot hatches were first invented. So do you think a Golf GTI would also be too sluggish for busy roads and junctions?
It's not so much the 0-60 time that's the issue as the SDV6 really can shift surprisingly well for the weight of the car (0-40 is particularly quick). The problem, and I'm referring to the 8 speed gearbox in an SDV6 Disco, is that sometimes it just doesn't respond when you quickly put your foot down. I don't know if it's because it's trying to set off in second gear or if it's just turbo lag but it's genuinely something you need to be aware of when you're dealing with roundabouts. In my experience it's worst when rolling slowly forwards, from a standing start it isn't too bad. It's one of the very few downsides I've found with the car.

jakesmith

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Wednesday 17th August 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
I don't have an Evoque, but I can't believe it can be that bad. There are certainly plenty of slower cars about.... A lot slower. And they manage to navigate the UK road network without issue.

Let's face it, the SDV6 has a better 0-60mph time than a Golf GTI, when hot hatches were first invented. So do you think a Golf GTI would also be too sluggish for busy roads and junctions?
I guess my opinion on it is more relevant than yours then given that you haven't driven one and I've had one for a year.

Not sure how making a comparison between it and a car from 40 years ago is relevant either really but thanks anyway.

cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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I have had my 11mdl TDV6 3.0 from new it returns 25.5 mpg regularly. I have driven the TDV8 and mine is just as quick in fact its a really good engine and i have had no problems over the 25000 miles it has done.

camel_landy

4,898 posts

183 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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If you want a sports car... Get a sports car!

The RRSport isn't about MPG, so if you're worrying about MPG maybe the RRS isn't the car for you.

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