Replacement rear shock on speed triple.

Replacement rear shock on speed triple.

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Nicky86

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43 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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The rear shock on my 2008 speed triple is nearing the of its life so needs a rebuild. Looking at the price to get it rebuilt, I could get an Hagon or Nitron for not much more money. Not having experience of suspension which should I get for a purely Road bike?

bgunn

1,417 posts

131 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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I put a Nitron R1 on the rear of my old VFR750 - it was really good and got rid of a lot of the squidginess of the rear, making the bike very supple. They spec the spring rate for your weight, too, which I doubt the original is.

moanthebairns

17,936 posts

198 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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I got a rear on my ninja rebuilt for 85 quid. Why is it so dear?

trickywoo

11,784 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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I've had a Nitron R1 on a GSXR 750 for the last 10K miles and its been excellent.

Not sure how much it is compromised by not having a remote reservoir, never noticed any fade on the road.


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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moanthebairns said:
I got a rear on my ninja rebuilt for 85 quid. Why is it so dear?
Why is what so dear? Your rebuilt standard shock, or a brand new performance shock with spring rate and damping set to your requirements?

Tango13

8,428 posts

176 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Don't waste your money on getting the original rebuilt, all you're doing is polishing a turd.

Fit the Nitron that fits your budget and get the front serviced/re-valved at the same time, it will make a vast difference to how the bike handles.

Don't look at Ohlins if you're of a nervous disposition, I had to get an up to date price on one for my 1050 Daytona as I have an agreed value insurance policy yikes

moanthebairns

17,936 posts

198 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Mr2Mike said:
moanthebairns said:
I got a rear on my ninja rebuilt for 85 quid. Why is it so dear?
Why is what so dear? Your rebuilt standard shock, or a brand new performance shock with spring rate and damping set to your requirements?
It's 85 to rebuild/service the old shock

Or 600+ for a new shock.

That's my question. Are we honestly saying we need performance shocks on the road.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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moanthebairns said:
It's 85 to rebuild/service the old shock

Or 600+ for a new shock.

That's my question. Are we honestly saying we need performance shocks on the road.
You clearly don't NEED them, but plenty original equipment shocks aren't particularly great even when new (particularly older bikes) and quite a few aren't even rebuildable.

Fitting a Nitron shock to my Fireblade is the single best mod I have ever made to any bike. It was not cheap, but the improvement over the very tidy, low mileage original was night and day.

moanthebairns

17,936 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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I agree fully. Not going to argue with that.

But the op pointed out that the cost of a new shock isn't much more than a rebuild. It is, its hundreds more. Which is why I asked the question.

trickywoo

11,784 posts

230 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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moanthebairns said:
It's 85 to rebuild/service the old shock

Or 600+ for a new shock.

That's my question. Are we honestly saying we need performance shocks on the road.
The entry level Nitron which is excellent for road use (and also for track I'd imagine) is under £400 and comes sprung for your weight and setup for your bike.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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I think you'll have to concede, MTB, that not everyone is as frugally-minded as you.

(did I hit that right; I was aiming for discretion and tact, with perhaps just a hint of sarcasm?)

moanthebairns

17,936 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Pothole said:
I think you'll have to concede, MTB, that not everyone is as frugally-minded as you.

(did I hit that right; I was aiming for discretion and tact, with perhaps just a hint of sarcasm?)
Look I get your point, I fitted an ohlins for the track and its night and day comfort wise.

But just the op said it wasn't much more than getting it rebuilt. Its easily £300 more. SO I'm confused, maybe he looses that kinda money running for a bus or he has been miss quoted.

I never bothered doing my standard shock for the track as I was advised it wasn't worth it in the slightest. If the op wants a really good shock go for it.

I'm just trying to point out he can refresh his old one for not much money.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

109 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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I would ask someone like MCT Suffolk if the original fitment shock is good enough to merit a rebuild and tweak/re-spring. If it is I'd go with that.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Nicky86 said:
The rear shock on my 2008 speed triple is nearing the of its life so needs a rebuild. Looking at the price to get it rebuilt, I could get an Hagon or Nitron for not much more money. Not having experience of suspension which should I get for a purely Road bike?
The only thing I'd say is that whilst the Hagon shocks are well made for the money, they aren't really performance shocks. Certainly a great improvement over a very tired original shock, but if you want something better than the original was when new, go for the Nitron (or Ohlins, Maxton etc..etc..).

cmaguire

3,589 posts

109 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Mr2Mike said:
The only thing I'd say is that whilst the Hagon shocks are well made for the money, they aren't really performance shocks. Certainly a great improvement over a very tired original shock, but if you want something better than the original was when new, go for the Nitron (or Ohlins, Maxton etc..etc..).
And the point of doing this over a rebuild on a 2008 Speed Triple on the road is.........

tom_e

346 posts

99 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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The point of riding anything other than a cheap 125 that'll hit 70 on the road is? Some people like shiny stuff and like having bits to tweak and play with.

Edited by tom_e on Thursday 25th August 10:09

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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moanthebairns said:
Pothole said:
I think you'll have to concede, MTB, that not everyone is as frugally-minded as you.

(did I hit that right; I was aiming for discretion and tact, with perhaps just a hint of sarcasm?)
Look I get your point, I fitted an ohlins for the track and its night and day comfort wise.

But just the op said it wasn't much more than getting it rebuilt. Its easily £300 more. SO I'm confused, maybe he looses that kinda money running for a bus or he has been miss quoted.

I never bothered doing my standard shock for the track as I was advised it wasn't worth it in the slightest. If the op wants a really good shock go for it.

I'm just trying to point out he can refresh his old one for not much money.
I know. I'm confused too.

welsh blackbird

690 posts

244 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Tango13 said:
Don't waste your money on getting the original rebuilt, all you're doing is polishing a turd.

Fit the Nitron that fits your budget and get the front serviced/re-valved at the same time, it will make a vast difference to how the bike handles.

Don't look at Ohlins if you're of a nervous disposition, I had to get an up to date price on one for my 1050 Daytona as I have an agreed value insurance policy yikes
I got an Ohlins for my Varadero for £300 from here:- http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/shock-abs...

Nicky86

Original Poster:

43 posts

120 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Reason for the high cost is the state of the shock. The chrome rod in the centre is pitted so that needs to be renewed the adjusters are siezed solid and all the parts could do with a powder coating. Due to the pervious owners love of a power wash it seems by the state of the linkage. Also the standard shock isn't meant to be so great. Also over the winter I hope to get around to supercharging it with TTS kit, so maybe worthwhile upgrade with that in mind.

moanthebairns

17,936 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Nicky86 said:
Reason for the high cost is the state of the shock. The chrome rod in the centre is pitted so that needs to be renewed the adjusters are siezed solid and all the parts could do with a powder coating. Due to the pervious owners love of a power wash it seems by the state of the linkage. Also the standard shock isn't meant to be so great. Also over the winter I hope to get around to supercharging it with TTS kit, so maybe worthwhile upgrade with that in mind.
New shock it Is then. The earlier triumphs suffer poorly from corrosion on parts. Mimes was the same when I got it off and looked at it.

My steering damper is now utterly fked. My front forks again inner tubes were fked.